I got the stuff but it just looks like tan sand. It's all crushed up and powder like, no large chunks of crystal. My mate that had it said he has never experienced such an energetic rush, so I'm excited. He did say mda was missing all that love while mdma is missing the rush and visuals. Horrific comedown though. Everything seems to check out with other people's experiences.
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Indulged in some crystal this friday. Guess it would be what ppl call "champagne" in colour. I have no idea of what safrole smells like, but this stuff had a pretty intense smell. Went to a local rave and wound up ingesting a gram of the stuff. Needles to say things got sweaty and mongy.
But the first 2-3 doses was really energetic and empathetic. Hugging strangers and talking to everybody when not dancing furiously. Started out snorting a few 100mg lines and later redosing with 130mg caps. Last cap was dropped around 7.30 and gave me the most psychedelic mdma experience ever. Intense hallucinations of both visual and auditive senses. Tactile as well and i had to stop and examine what i was holding in my hand a few times(a drink).
Fun but my jaw, body and soul is suffering still.
Stay Safe
But the first 2-3 doses was really energetic and empathetic. Hugging strangers and talking to everybody when not dancing furiously. Started out snorting a few 100mg lines and later redosing with 130mg caps. Last cap was dropped around 7.30 and gave me the most psychedelic mdma experience ever. Intense hallucinations of both visual and auditive senses. Tactile as well and i had to stop and examine what i was holding in my hand a few times(a drink).
Fun but my jaw, body and soul is suffering still.
Stay Safe
Fishface
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You come in here, tell us you consumed a 1g of who knows what in a night and have the nerve to say, 'Stay Safe' . . .
Welcome . . .
Welcome . . .
Here's what I put on Reddit after being told once again it's always down to 'tolerance'.
Subject A does MDMA 50 times, whilst all experiences differ he fundamentally knows what to expect of the experience and how tolerance effects the roll.
Subject B, C, D and E consume MDMA just 5 times, the same generally applies to them.
All subjects then consume MDMA a further 5 times over the space of a year and every time is a complete disappointment, drastically reduced effects to the point the drug feels different. This is despite good external factors such as atmosphere, company, fitness etc.
Subjects B, C, D and E could have some light tolerance issues but it's unlikely to be such a drastic change. They've taken the drug enough times to realise the true effects, they've spaced out consuming of the drugs from 3 to 6 months every time.
But because subject A used to the drug a lot and because many like him report the same 'loss of magic' then it MUST be down to tolerance issues, even for those who don't remotely fit the criteria.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDrugNer...rent_precursors_do_have_a_profound_effect_on/
Subject A does MDMA 50 times, whilst all experiences differ he fundamentally knows what to expect of the experience and how tolerance effects the roll.
Subject B, C, D and E consume MDMA just 5 times, the same generally applies to them.
All subjects then consume MDMA a further 5 times over the space of a year and every time is a complete disappointment, drastically reduced effects to the point the drug feels different. This is despite good external factors such as atmosphere, company, fitness etc.
Subjects B, C, D and E could have some light tolerance issues but it's unlikely to be such a drastic change. They've taken the drug enough times to realise the true effects, they've spaced out consuming of the drugs from 3 to 6 months every time.
But because subject A used to the drug a lot and because many like him report the same 'loss of magic' then it MUST be down to tolerance issues, even for those who don't remotely fit the criteria.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDrugNer...rent_precursors_do_have_a_profound_effect_on/
SmokingAces
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I think you know I understand the script here but the best way to think about it is we are looking for pills made with precursor that's derived from safrole...most likely PMK oil.
Pre drought pills all turned purple on the marquis before turning darker - this is a good sign to look for. All the UK presses did this from the manc crew and the pink nipples. So did the Dutch lions and silver bars blue instagrams. I think they are the ones made from an ingredient containing safrole.
That's my theory for why there are some 200mg pills that don't hit the spot. It's nothing to do with atmosphere or anything in out and about whatever I've had mega dose pills that didn't make me feel up for it.
I'm thinking I'll get the blue deceptions successor to Dutch lions same shape etc, the Mercedes from the same presser. Figure it's best to stick to the freshest presses.
Over the last few years I've only been doing it on special occasions more or less. Usually its reuniting with some old friends, sometimes we're out sometimes in. Always a good vibe.
Two out of the last 3 times I've dropped been sucker punches for me, one was my 30th which was an awesome day and night... but the Pink Nipples turned all 6 of us into a stoned mess of nothing.
There was also Trancecoda in Birmingham last November, much the same apart a little bit of energy early on. That was with the Dutch Lions. One of the guys we did it with that night had only done it like twice before.
SmokingAces
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Did you not rate either then tec? What about the manc crew pills?
I'm trying to work out what to buy planing a candy flip on my birthday
I'm trying to work out what to buy planing a candy flip on my birthday
They must have put out a second batch of Nipples because these were shite, maybe pills don't sit well with one or two people... but all 6 of us were zombies.
Lions were much the same (but better), but we're talking the tail end of the original Peach batch... so who knows.
SilentRoller found some love with the Green Stars, perhaps the same ones Blue Bull was amazed by. I admit they were a strong decent rush so took them alone so my report is worthless. These can be found still.
Lions were much the same (but better), but we're talking the tail end of the original Peach batch... so who knows.
SilentRoller found some love with the Green Stars, perhaps the same ones Blue Bull was amazed by. I admit they were a strong decent rush so took them alone so my report is worthless. These can be found still.
Limey
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I had these on Halloween. They tested as on checkit as between 90-110mg of mdma with about 5-10mg caffeine.
I thought they were shit personally, definitely not good quality mdma. They are however clean pills, just weak. These were a lighter yellow colour with light brown specs of mdma crystal.
There was another batch of yellow shells, brighter colour that contained Methylone. Hate to admit it but I think Methylone/bk-mdma is slightly better than shitty quality dutch mdma.
lysergamide
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May be a different batch as you're in US. Would compare stamps when more of these shells arrive, seems to be all those and Mastercards at the moment. The Yellow Shells are the oil BP Logo.
I've been taking MDMA since about 2010 but not pre-drought, since all the qDances and all the great pills of this time though. There has been times I've gotten 'safrole' MDMA and it's been a darker more golden colour, definitely difference in effects to the point were I would take different batches saving it. No comedown, would dance to anything (including radio/taxi music), much cleaner more profound loved up feelings.
For those having trouble, I find MDMA crystal is best although it's more cut so harder to find a good supply. If you get a good supply though then weigh your doses out you'll have a much better time. The spread in pills these days will vary more (even by 10-20mg is a difference if anyone takes psys) and sometimes isn't suited to your tolerance.
There is definitely a difference, same with the different amphetamines, types of ketamine R/S, anyone with long, heavy poly-drug experience should know this or else just look at chemistry. It's like cooking, you make the same dish but different ingredients it comes out pretty much the 'same' but different taste/effects. I now save MDMA for occassional times with top quality non-safrole crystal but it does the job and wait...although not a big heavy MDMA user anymore.
Also with all these pill team lab busts etc surely there is going to be a bit of a drought compared to past few years when everyone has had it.
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lysergamide
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Also tip: If at a rave and someone isn't just on a stupid .5g+ dose of MDMA and monged out just grab them and make them dance to the music. If the tracks are good and it's MD it'll work. People just need a little shake sometimes.
If you're on a sofa, maybe try taking less MD and using it for a proper social setting.
If you're on a sofa, maybe try taking less MD and using it for a proper social setting.
SmokingAces
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I'm sorry but safrole MDMA since 2010? Doubtful to say the least, that's exactly when they switched from PMK oil as a precursor to PMK-glycidate.
On the subject of people who still believe they're getting safrole stuff. Let me explain this to you. To make MDMA from safrole, it's a longer procedure, it takes more time, and your having to import MUCH more of a highly watched illegal precursor through customs, then taking an extra two steps to make MDMA than if you used PMK oil which is just safrole already through the first two processes.
The fact that it's near impossible to strike a deal with anyone to import the stuff that will actually arrive aswell in these times it's so heavily watched aswell, is worth remembering.
Mastercards are just your usual gylcidate made MDMA. The shells probably are too.
MDMA crystal is almost never cut. Certainly not here in the UK, it's so available there's no way anyone would buy it.
And as for telling MDMA is made from safrole by looks, appearance, smell. It all means absolutely nothing with MDMA. As does any seller listing their stuff as "made from safrole" - they're trying to sell it to you of course they're going to say that.
If it was made from safrole the price would be higher. Due to the cost of importing the safrole being higher (because there's more of it and potentially loosing a batch) and the extra steps in production/more time to make it.
consumer
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We get safrole based MDMA here in Australia. There is no need to import the safrole as it can be made from Camphor Laurel trees which grow everywhere in Northern New South Wales. A lab was busted near where i used to live up near Byron Bay in 2010 that was producing safrole for mdma production. It is still flowing today. Safrole lab bust
Sprout
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I can assure you that MDMA not within pills is subject to all the same contamination any illicit drug is.
Not every MDMA user is a forum member with an intricate knowledge of the chemistry, pharmacology and mythology - as readily as any stimulating white powder is "Coke" provided the dealer said it was in the eyes of the vast majority of users, any baggie of remotely empathogenic powder/crystals is easily shifted and readily consumed as "MDMA" at the street level. Career polydrug users can differentiate between drugs and their effect much more easily than those with little experience, 5-EAPB for example would substitute given its similar duration, dosage, physically observable impact and empathogenic effects. It follows the cultural assumption of MDMA's activity - the fact that it is fukkin' brutal comparatively with regards to side-effects and absolutely nowhere near the empathy and euphoria that MDMA provides matters little to those who have never experienced the actual compound.
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This is absolutely true though. Appearance means nada if anyone in the supply chain is aware of the processes by which it can be very easily manipulated.
Simply put: trust any and all marketing of MDMA as much as you would "best white I've ever seen, mate! One key and you'll be wrecked!" or "this brown is fukkin' fire, get it before it's all gone!".
uniqlo2015
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Conversation does go round in circles a bit in this thread doesnt it? Re. whether you have over done ir or whether its new kidns of PMK. Rude of me to butt in but it does seem that without proper research and testing this conversation is going nowhere.
Tried Pink Nipples over Xmas and has a really nice time on them, none of the fast up and down of Dutch pills, instead lasted for long time and felt really alert but loads of empathy. Good time and unlike anything else I had had.
London NYE tried BIG red square dominoes which were fun but very quick to happen and end, meaning you always wanted more. Also small yellow biege rolex / crowns which werent anything special but did the job.
Anyone tried blue decepticon's or tan Mercedes AMG?
Tried Pink Nipples over Xmas and has a really nice time on them, none of the fast up and down of Dutch pills, instead lasted for long time and felt really alert but loads of empathy. Good time and unlike anything else I had had.
London NYE tried BIG red square dominoes which were fun but very quick to happen and end, meaning you always wanted more. Also small yellow biege rolex / crowns which werent anything special but did the job.
Anyone tried blue decepticon's or tan Mercedes AMG?
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lysergamide
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Pfft...and there was me just trying to share some knowledge. Didn't once say those pills were safrole. Not like it's one lab in the entire world is there fuck sake? I'll keep lurking as usual 8)
BL these days needs more knowledge and less doubting/disagreement. Not the same chem heads here as there used to be. At least the drugs are still bangin!