Is 1p-LSD better option than LSD nowadays?

[Neithman]

Isnt 1-p metabolized directly to Lsd ?

 

[veodo]

I like to read variety of opinions.

 

[Bigazznugz]

1p-lsd is a little bit weaker than LSD in my opinion. But then again 1plsd is a psychoactive on its own, with < 30% being metabolized to lsd in the first pass through your liver. So good lsd is more visual last longer and is more pushy than 1p. It takes me about 300ugs to get much off it.
On the c other hand Ald-52 is probably the best out. The visuals are exactly the same as 1 tab of white on white lsd, but no Gi issues and no bodyload what so ever. So Ald-52 is the winner. By far more potent (than 1p) & extremely clean.

 

[spacejunk]

In the spirit of harm reduction, 1P-LSD is a better option than LSD:
-1P-LSD it is being distributed and consistent, measured and very well labelled doses. With LSD it's anyone's guess how much is on the tab.
-When you buy LSD off the (figurative) street, you have to be careful that you're not getting something else more dangerous, like an NBOx. 1P-LSD is coming from a consistent and well known source.

On the other hand, LSD has been studied thoroughly and its low toxicity and relative safety are well documented.

i don't know if i agree that people pursuing research chemicals over traditional psychedelics like LSD is necesssrily in the best interests of harm reduction, but i see what you're saying.

It is always safe to be a little bit suspicious of your source, because we really should trust RC vendors to get it right all the time. They don't and it has cost lives.

 

[my3rdeye]

I don't see any difference whatsoever between 1p and LSD. In fact it's better, I get a 100 mics. LSD it could be anywhere from 50-100 and I won't know until I already bought it. So I could pay more for a sheet of LSD and it has less product. It's not a lot more, but it does cost me more for a sheet of LSD. I don't see any benefit to buying LSD right now unless the price goes down.
Also I think about 95 percent of the differences people claim to notice you wouldn't be able to able to pick out in a blind test. I know LSD and these tabs feel like 100 mics of LSD. In every way. Lasts the same amount of time, same visuals, kicks in same amount of time. Someone above said 3 hits of 1p are like one of LSD, well they must be getting way stronger LSD than me. 1 hit of 1P is about a hit and a half of LSD, at least the 70-80 mic LSD I have.
I want to keep the clandestine guys in business but 1p is my mailbox faster than an Amazon order. 1p is going to get banned eventually, it's too awesome, I advised everyone to stock up.

 

[consumer]

Ald-52 sounds like the go personally. The effects of 1plsd sound a bit random to me, effecting everyone differently in regards to dosage.
I have a vial of high grade Californian "sunshine" lsd in my freezer. Its been there for 3 years and i am about halfway through it. Its 95ug a drop and remarkably consistent in its effects with different people. Clean as can be with no body load and super visual. If you can get acid like that i would choose the mother compound every time. I am keen on trying ALD -52 though.

 

[Ismene]

Are the labs that do 1p synthesis more prone to get HQ acid than clandestine LSD labs?

No, there's no such thing as "clean" and "dirty" acid anyway. It's people who confuse LSD with powders like heroin where you can chuck in some baby powder. You can't chuck powder into LSD because it's on a blotter and nothing else is active at that dose and worth cutting it with.

LSD is an arrangment of atoms in a molecular structure. If you get that you have LSD - if you don't you don't have LSD. "Impurity" doesn't come into it.

 

[Bigazznugz]

Ald-52 is the winner imo hands down.
Dose is perfect visuals amazing, no bodyload at all and clean as a whistle ++++. Straight up packed with love.

 

[lilroldy]

Ald-52 is the winner imo hands down.
Dose is perfect visuals amazing, no bodyload at all and clean as a whistle ++++. Straight up packed with love.

You don't get a bodyload from ald? I feel it has one, just more relaxing and light imo, I've on!y tried it twice(I know it's real, along with the eth-lad I have received) once at 100-110ugs and a second time at roughly 175ugs(my cat left the lid off off his vial at room temp, so doses were laid higher then initially planned because some alcohol had evaporated) so I can't say 100% the dose but it's definitely has a lot cleaner feeling then lsd itself, thinking is alot more c!ear you don't seem to get the lsd mindfuck so to say, all in all from start to finish It's a lot smoother start to finish then lsd imo. Ald52>lsd mainly because I get mild anxiety during the comeup of lsd but none what so ever from ald52

 

[Bigazznugz]

Yeah no bodyload at all. The thinking is a bit more clear but I can still get very deep with it. To me ald-52 was mabey a little rough on the come up but lsd does that to me no matter what. Lsd can get me in a odd state of thought looping that can get uncomfortable sometimes. Depending on set and setting I guess. Once I peaked on orange sunshine telling the difference between the 2 was kinda difficult, except for the fact that I can't amazing and full of love. 1p and also eth lad Doesn't have the love that lsd has. Gotta try it at 250ugs next I think that will really blow my mind.
The thing is with me is that I would think that more than half of the acid thats being sold right now is probably either 1p or eth lad. The doses are unknown and actually knowing what i am taking eases my mind persay. That's just my paranoid thinking and it's probably not true.I know the geltabs I had this year about a month after the last dead show was bomb shit.

 

[jonteng]

You don't get a bodyload from ald-52 ? I feel it has one

With a friend, we found that bodyload is highly concentrated in the head !
Feeling toxic ... but less mindfuck as LSD.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

Man I miss acid so much. It's one drug I could majorly use in my life right about now

 

[Ismene]

How can you miss it burnt when it's easier to find now than it's ever been courtesy of the dimly lit web?

 

[Burnt Offerings]

Yeah that's definitely been a major plus for anyone looking to explore it...in fact with only a couple exceptions, it's been my source for almost all my psychedelic experiences (with the exception of psilocybin and a couple mescaline trips). I definitely think that the benefits of the deep web outweigh the negatives. Over the past year I got pretty heavily into street drugs, though, heroin in particularly, and there are innumerable local sources of heroin where I live. It's just the matter of sending a text message. I don't know, my drug use has just gotten really lazy in recent times and I just wish I had a local connection, you know? Some heavy-duty psychedelic hallucinogens (not necessarily LSD...I actually would prefer psilocybin mushrooms) might be good for getting my head out of my ass.

 

[Ismene]

Yeah I know what you're saying burnt. I prefer mushrooms to LSD too but there's no connections for mushrooms unfortunately - unless you want to pay stupid prices. Growing your own is the only solution there.

 

[bingey]

1p-lsd is different from LSD , shorter duration and less manic/pushy IMO

 

[my3rdeye]

The thing is with me is that I would think that more than half of the acid thats being sold right now is probably either 1p or eth lad. .

Just because you think something doesnt make it true. The acid factories didn't just stop making LSD. People said this about nbomes too and i never once encountered that in the wild.

Ald-52 sounds like the go personally. The effects of 1plsd sound a bit random to me, effecting everyone differently in regards to dosage.
I have a vial of high grade Californian "sunshine" lsd in my freezer. Its been there for 3 years and i am about halfway through it. Its 95ug a drop and remarkably consistent in its effects with different people. Clean as can be with no body load and super visual. If you can get acid like that i would choose the mother compound every time. I am keen on trying ALD -52 though.

LSD has to be the least consistent drug across different people. One person loves it, the next has a bad trip, it's the definition of unpredictable. Reports of 1p are just reflecting this.

 

[consumer]

Just because you think something doesnt make it true. The acid factories didn't just stop making LSD. People said this about nbomes too and i never once encountered that in the wild.




LSD has to be the least consistent drug across different people. One person loves it, the next has a bad trip, it's the definition of unpredictable. Reports of 1p are just reflecting this.

Everyone i have shared this acid with has loved it and had good trips. The effects have been remarkably consistent.

 

[Si Dread]

Psychedelics are unpredictable, not much argument there. The effects of psychedelic drugs are subjective too. So trying to accurately guage the differences between psyches that happen to be very closely related chemically is a tricky thing!

I got the feeling 1P was very similar to the original L, more so than Al or LSZ. I also got the feeling it might be very slightly weaker, meaning you might need 115 ug to get the same affect that 100ug of L might produce, but that's just the impression I got.

I think the biggest risk with LSD purchase is still the danger of unexpectedly powerful or long trips ala DOC etc or dangerous compounds such as NBOMes in unreliable dosage. With the suppliers of 1P & the other RC Lysergamides printing ID's on blotter, this makes counterfeits less easy to produce. It's not impossible to have some fake sheets of Al-Lad or whatever knocked up to soak in NBOMes but being able to shift them without someone cottoning on quite quickly is trickier because BL & such have made things safer by educating people!

The old danger of vendors getting confused & making mistakes mixing up compounds is much reduced when dealing in pre-laid blotters rather than hundreds of little baggies of different powders!

 

[Doldrugs]

LSD has to be the least consistent drug across different people. One person loves it, the next has a bad trip, it's the definition of unpredictable. Reports of 1p are just reflecting this.

I don't disagree but I don't think it's the only thing going on. It definitely seems like individual metabolism plays a role.