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experimented with 1p-LSD for the first time tonight. 100ucg.

was a lot like LSD but with more body tension IMO. my jaw and face felt more tight. similar intoxicated feeling as well. the visuals are fantastic.

still feeling it pretty much. at the 7hr mark. friends just all went home but i'm just realizing that's gonna suck cuz they're gonna be insomniac'd for at least 3 more hours amirite?

fuck it, i'll just crack a beer n settle into the unwinding phase.

will be looking forward to taking bigger doses in the 200-300ucg range soon. i'm pretty over these 1 tab trips. i'm trynna go deeper.

though it was sorta introspective in it's own right. we'll see. i'll definitely have tolerance tho..
 
Seems this thread got kind of quiet this past week. Sorry no one responded to you before, Blank. It sounds nice, though the idea of basically just LSD with more body tension doesn't really make me feel like running out to get some. How high have you gone (roughly of course) with LSD itself?

....

On another note, it's new year's eve! Does anyone have any psychedelic-related resolutions for 2016? ;)

Personally, I've got two in the works:

1. I'm going to stop smoking cannabis at all times except for holidays, birthdays, and during psychedelic trips for at least six months. This is partly because being high all the time is just starting to add up physically (headaches, fatigue, coughing more, etc.) while my tolerance is getting too high for the positive parts of the high to outweigh them anymore. But, the other part of it is more directly related to psychedelics as well: since cannabis potentiates my trips far more than anything else in most ways, I'm starting to really miss the full low tolerance potential of that effect even more, in addition to being annoyed at how smoking more often brings those physical side effects into my trips now. I suspect that this break therefore would have a very positive impact not only on my highs but also on my trips overall. Of course, as an appropriate means to start this off, I am currently getting baked as hell and will be until midnight.

2. This upcoming year, unlike these last couple of years, I'm going to focus on expanding my relationship with my favorite psychedelics rather than exploring with new ones. It's been great getting to know better the limits of my own mind and psychedelic chemistry, but now that I really have an idea of which molecules seem to be the most fitted for me in terms of safety, therapeutic efficacy, and recreational potential all combined, I really feel like now I'm much more intrigued by the idea of getting to see the most of what those specifically can do instead of just searching for others that may or may not show some of the same potential. I do still have a leftover supply of a good handful of other chemicals and a couple still that I intend to try for the first time in the near future, but I have mostly small amounts of all of them now and I'm really just trying to satisfy some lingering curiosities with the others, so they'll be mixed into what I'm doing but just slowly phased out as I finish them off. And I do still love seeing what all these different incredible chemicals can do, but just not as much as I really love what my absolute favorite psychedelics do to me.... That's what I'm really fascinated by now.

So that's what I've come up with for now. I'm excited for the future, bring on the change. :)
 
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I didnt find 1P to have any more body tension than LSD. In fact i found it to feel even "smoother" than LSD. Though for all intents and purposes it was nearly identical and prices are very close to real LSD, maybe even cheaper if you buy in bulk.
I think Ill actually be taking some tonight, either that or AL-LAD. And ill probably throw in a tiny dose of 3 meo pcp.
Ive really been enjoying 3 meo pcp lately, maybe even a bit too much as Ive been using every day for the last 3 days and i also used it multiple days in a row last week. Though I havent gone above 10mg yet. I find 6-10mg insufflated to be a very enjoyable experience. Its not very intoxicating, leaves you feeling pretty calm and centered for a couple hours then around the 2 hour mark a bit of mania kicks in and i get a feeling of excitement and become more talkative. It mixes great with beer and weed. Ill probably take it up to 20mg at some point before my stash runs out but at this point 10mg feels too lovely to want to take more.

My psychedelic resolutions:
1) try Eth-LAD
2) try to get some 2c-b to replenish my stash.
3) try O-PCE
 
to be fair Delsyd i was having a stronger mind trip than how relaxed i've felt on LSD in the past. definitely was the set&setting but when i'm slightly more stressed during a trip i get that facial tension when my face is confused as to which emotion to show and match to my thoughts n feelings :D.

should be taking 200mcg 1p-LSD tonight. it's either that or getting wasted at a party but i did that last year so i'm hoping to trip.

been in a strange mindset as of late tho.. not unhappy but some insecurities that keep resurfacing in my trips persist. i work around it fine once i analyze them but with 2 tabs things get much weirder ime.

so i'm stocked up on valiums in any case.

oh how i loved to trip when i never had anything to worry about. literally the best and only time to fully enjoy it imo.
 
My friend and I each took a tab of some good LSD yesterday and spent the day just... well, normally, except on acid hahah. We went to a park around the beginning and the scenery/fresh air really helped make the trip, I found myself wanting to climb on almost everything and found myself feeling as if everything was fresh and new. I was starting to trip dick when I looked over at the car next to us in traffic (sober friend guiding us) and there was a guy that just made some instant connection with the fact that I was tripping or something, started making weird faces at me and staring at me hahah... I broke into maniacal laughter for minutes afterwards! We ended up each drinking a shit ton of beer and smoking a shit ton of weed and by the end of the trip we couldn't tell if we were coming down or just hammered hah. We went to a hot tub and chilled in the cold weather, and that was pretty damn relaxing. Hit up a hole-in-the-wall bar for a few drinks near 2am. Friend got a 'snake bite' (Guinness on top of cider) and by gosh, it was pretty good! Ended up getting a cider myself and was quite in love with just how much it tasted like apples hahah.

Anyways, this was our last opportunity for this friend and I to really trip for ages, so I'm glad I took it. It was a weird but relaxing day, and it made me realize just how important my friendships are to me. So much laughter and shenanigans were had, and now I'm gonna head off to Denny's for some coffee and fatty breakfast food even though it's 3pm because by gosh, that sounds amazing.

Have a wonderful New Years everyone!
 
I didnt find 1P to have any more body tension than LSD. In fact i found it to feel even "smoother" than LSD. Though for all intents and purposes it was nearly identical and prices are very close to real LSD, maybe even cheaper if you buy in bulk.
I think Ill actually be taking some tonight, either that or AL-LAD. And ill probably throw in a tiny dose of 3 meo pcp.
Ive really been enjoying 3 meo pcp lately, maybe even a bit too much as Ive been using every day for the last 3 days and i also used it multiple days in a row last week. Though I havent gone above 10mg yet. I find 6-10mg insufflated to be a very enjoyable experience. Its not very intoxicating, leaves you feeling pretty calm and centered for a couple hours then around the 2 hour mark a bit of mania kicks in and i get a feeling of excitement and become more talkative. It mixes great with beer and weed. Ill probably take it up to 20mg at some point before my stash runs out but at this point 10mg feels too lovely to want to take more.

My psychedelic resolutions:
1) try Eth-LAD
2) try to get some 2c-b to replenish my stash.
3) try O-PCE

I'll be joining you with the 1p, and maybe with a hit of regular LSD, tonight my friend! Let's add some 4-HO-MiPT later into it if you're up for it. I'm going to anyway. :)

Almost party time!
 
Since no one's posted here since it happened yet, happy new year everybody! :D

I didnt find 1P to have any more body tension than LSD. In fact i found it to feel even "smoother" than LSD. Though for all intents and purposes it was nearly identical and prices are very close to real LSD, maybe even cheaper if you buy in bulk.
I think Ill actually be taking some tonight, either that or AL-LAD. And ill probably throw in a tiny dose of 3 meo pcp.
Ive really been enjoying 3 meo pcp lately, maybe even a bit too much as Ive been using every day for the last 3 days and i also used it multiple days in a row last week. Though I havent gone above 10mg yet. I find 6-10mg insufflated to be a very enjoyable experience. Its not very intoxicating, leaves you feeling pretty calm and centered for a couple hours then around the 2 hour mark a bit of mania kicks in and i get a feeling of excitement and become more talkative. It mixes great with beer and weed. Ill probably take it up to 20mg at some point before my stash runs out but at this point 10mg feels too lovely to want to take more.

My psychedelic resolutions:
1) try Eth-LAD
2) try to get some 2c-b to replenish my stash.
3) try O-PCE

How does something feel "smoother" than LSD? At least in my experience, LSD has been the very definition of smooth, as long as the setting is also good for it.

Those are some good resolutions though, I wouldn't mind the first two myself. :) I know I said one of my goals is to stop experimenting so much, but ETH-LAD really sounds like one of those ones you have to try if you get the opportunity.

to be fair Delsyd i was having a stronger mind trip than how relaxed i've felt on LSD in the past. definitely was the set&setting but when i'm slightly more stressed during a trip i get that facial tension when my face is confused as to which emotion to show and match to my thoughts n feelings :D.

should be taking 200mcg 1p-LSD tonight. it's either that or getting wasted at a party but i did that last year so i'm hoping to trip.

been in a strange mindset as of late tho.. not unhappy but some insecurities that keep resurfacing in my trips persist. i work around it fine once i analyze them but with 2 tabs things get much weirder ime.

so i'm stocked up on valiums in any case.

oh how i loved to trip when i never had anything to worry about. literally the best and only time to fully enjoy it imo.

I generally don't recommend dissociatives to people unless I know they use them already, but have you ever tried nitrous oxide with psychedelics? I went through a phase of using benzos with psychedelics to curb the negativities of life as well, but once I found nitrous I never had any desire to do this again. I find it to not only be dramatically more emotionally freeing than benzos, but to also significantly intensify rather than reduce the strength of the trip. Plus, the effects of the psychedelic are only altered for a few minutes when you do it, but, at least when I personally get enough nitrous in me to have a "full release" with it, the taking away of the body load and mental insecurities lasts for the entire rest of the experience. It was pretty much the ultimate tool just waiting to be discovered for me.

My friend and I each took a tab of some good LSD yesterday and spent the day just... well, normally, except on acid hahah. We went to a park around the beginning and the scenery/fresh air really helped make the trip, I found myself wanting to climb on almost everything and found myself feeling as if everything was fresh and new. I was starting to trip dick when I looked over at the car next to us in traffic (sober friend guiding us) and there was a guy that just made some instant connection with the fact that I was tripping or something, started making weird faces at me and staring at me hahah... I broke into maniacal laughter for minutes afterwards! We ended up each drinking a shit ton of beer and smoking a shit ton of weed and by the end of the trip we couldn't tell if we were coming down or just hammered hah. We went to a hot tub and chilled in the cold weather, and that was pretty damn relaxing. Hit up a hole-in-the-wall bar for a few drinks near 2am. Friend got a 'snake bite' (Guinness on top of cider) and by gosh, it was pretty good! Ended up getting a cider myself and was quite in love with just how much it tasted like apples hahah.

Anyways, this was our last opportunity for this friend and I to really trip for ages, so I'm glad I took it. It was a weird but relaxing day, and it made me realize just how important my friendships are to me. So much laughter and shenanigans were had, and now I'm gonna head off to Denny's for some coffee and fatty breakfast food even though it's 3pm because by gosh, that sounds amazing.

Have a wonderful New Years everyone!

Sounds like an awesome trip. :) That guy in the car made me crack up, I would love to be on either side of that scenario hahaha.
 
2CD only gets really interesting for me in highish (80+ p.o.) doses
but it is my favorite 2C*
plays well with (meth)amphetamines and MDMAish things
also as do most psychedelics ketamine
so I imagine it would too with your novel dissociatives
would highly recommend trying the 2CD i.m.'d at about 1/3 the dose
I wrote a trip report about that (and I hate trip reports)

I have never used a needle. I would like to with some ketamine. I think the odds are more likely me starting to im/iv will turn out bad than good, so I most likely wont be anytime soon.

I did plug my doses though, and I would say for 2c-x that is at leadst 1.5x potency from oral.

I am on my way to some rollercoasters with 2 30mg 2c d doses, 2 10mg 4 ho met, 2 20mg mxe, ~250mg ketamine, 30mg 3 meo pcp, and 30mg dose of escaline I had premade from months ago.

The escaline I thought about bumping to 60-80mg, but that would have killed the "hey its here so grab it vibe"

All the 3 meo is most likely not getting used, the rest is up in the air!

As far as this comming year i would like

1) MAL and mescaline
2) All new/good dissos
3) dipt/met/det/mipt (at least one)
4) 4 sub dpt
 
I think the odds are more likely me starting to im/iv will turn out bad than good, so I most likely wont be anytime soon.

a succinct and parsimonious description of intravenous drug use tbh

you are a better man than I

sup delsyd

been too long

call me
 
Happy New Year everyone! I had a great NYE, took 4 hits of acid and had a really great trip with a bunch of friends. I've been hanging out with my girlfriend since then, her car is being repaired so it's been more constant than it probably would have been, it's been nice though.

It finally got cold though. :p

Decided to record myself aimlessly noodling around on the piano while tripping on LSD for twenty minutes, if anyone cares: https://soundcloud.com/theapplecore/piano-improv-2016-01-02

Cool man, I like it. :)

In the next day or two I should have 2 new jams posted, I'm really excited about them.
 
Decided to record myself aimlessly noodling around on the piano while tripping on LSD for twenty minutes, if anyone cares: https://soundcloud.com/theapplecore/piano-improv-2016-01-02

I really, really liked this for some reason. In many ways it reminds me of a Debussy record I bought when I was a freshman undergrad that has now become synonymous with coming down off a heavy acid trip for me hahah. Cool stuff man, renews my interest in trying to learn the piano!
 
Ok it's on today. The weather's fantastic, I've got the house to myself, and perhaps even some new tunes from our man Xork to treat my senses while I sit out on the golf course pondering life haha. Just gotta decide how many mushy caps to scoff after I do a couple of chores... I know we don't do "how much should I take" kinda stuff, but we'll... How much should I take? Lol
 
Last night was so fun... I took 6mg of 3-MeO-PCP nasally after band practice. I told my friend I would go see a psytrance show with him... normally I find the music passable at best, annoying at worst... that constant high-tempo beat and general lack of melodic component throws me off. But my other friend who feels the same way said 3-MeO-PCP made it really fun, so I went with that. Then unexpectedly another friend and my girlfriend decided they wanted to come. I expected my girl would hate it, but instead all of us ended up dancing SO hard and having an awesome time. It was really cool having her come out with me and dance and stay up late and party. I had a brief period when I took it of feeling disoriented and dissociated, but then the mania I have heard so much about kicked in and I felt like a fucking dynamo, it was great. We topped the night off with some great sex (3-MeO-PCP is apparently really good for that). What a good time. :)
 
^ Sounds like a blast Xork. :) Enjoyed listening to a couple of your jams, too.

Glad some of you liked my piano-fiddlings.
 
So, here's something that might stimulate some interesting thoughts....

Apparently this study just came out last month: Receptor binding profiles and quantitative structure-affinity relationships of some 5-substituted-N,N-diallyltryptamines.

I'm looking at the PDF right now. It's your typical modern receptor binding study with a huge PDSP screening, and it focuses on DALT, 5-MeO-DALT, and the interesting but mostly novel 5-F-DALT, 5-Cl-DALT, 5-Br-DALT, and 5-Me-DALT. I've posted the data chart below, which is given in the PDF.

Key: (1) DALT, (2) 5-F-DALT, (3) 5-Cl-DALT, (4) 5-Br-DALT, (5) 5-Me-DALT, (6) 5-MeO-DALT
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The study claims: "The DALT compounds were initially screened at 45 different receptors and transporters. From this set, 27 sites met the 10 μM threshold criterion for secondary analysis and Ki determination. Notably, none of the following sites met the 10 μM criterion: beta adrenergic (β13); dopaminergic D1, D4, D5; GABAergic (flunitrazepam GABAA, muscimol GABAA, and peripheral benzodiazepine sites); muscarinic (M1-M5); 5-HT3; δ-opioid; histaminergic H2 and H4 receptors. All of the test compounds exhibited Ki values of less than 10 μM at the following sites: serotonergic receptors 5-HT1A, 5-HT1D, 5-HT1E, 5-HT2A, 5-HT2B, 5-HT2C, and 5-HT6; adrenergic receptors α2A, α2B, and α2C; histamine receptor H1; κ opioid receptor (κOR); sigma receptors σ1 and σ2; DAT and SERT monoamine reuptake transporters."

I have bolded my favorite part.

Yes, DALT, 5-MeO-DALT, and the rest of these compounds all have less than 10,000 nM affinity for kappa-opioid receptors. (And, for those with particularly novel interests, 5-Cl-DALT and 5-Br-DALT both have some affinity for mu-opioid receptors!) This is particularly interesting to me because I am aware of one other study which claims, using to my knowledge unpublished information, that DPT has some relevant affinity for kappa-opioid receptors as well. Notably, the same group which does the binding studies (the PDSP) also found DPT to have an affinity of 2,579 nM at 5-HT2A, similar to 2,323 nM for DMT, so I think it's worth considering that an affinity of less than 10,000 nM at another site could translate into very relevant activity among these compounds.

This is a really intriguing finding to me. I really wish they had thought to include 4-HO-DALT or 4-AcO-DALT in their testing, or maybe even 4-MeO-DALT as they also suggested that increasing the bulk of 5-substitution should increase kappa-opioid receptor affinity, but it is what it is. I have to say though that when I have taken 4-AcO-DALT, particularly when I took 60 mg orally, I really felt like there was a salvia-like dissociation going on, and I even had an indistinguishable "spinning gravity" effect to my movement. I had convinced myself that maybe it was something related to dopamine receptor stimulation at the time, but perhaps there could be more to it than that? I have also felt this effect to a similar extent with both 4-HO-MPT and 4-HO-DET, and I really wanted to characterize those as salvia-like at the time too, but I keep pushing that logic off... but maybe there's no need to.

Anyway, does anyone else find this is as potentially interesting as I do?
 
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