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The EADD 3-FPM Megathread

Sprout said:
I've mentioned it numerous times if you take 5 minutes to even search my screen name alongside the drug name.
Do not rely on me for your own education on what you put into your own body.

I don't know if you've noticed either but 3-FPM is completely novel and almost completely unresearched. I am not a psychopharmacologist, I am not an expert by any means, I am far from resembling any kind of academic authority, I'm a Junkie with a slight knowledge of Biochem. trying to provide information that doesn't fucking exist yet!

Fuck it, I'm out.
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Sprout do you not have a science background /education? You certainly have a lot of drug knowledge for one so young. I for one would listen to you. Your comments and advise are what makes you a good mod in eadd. Well done on you for speaking out with honesty about your concerns.

I've taken plenty of RC's and am very aware of the negatives and risk I'm taking - that's important, as adults we all need to be aware of the dangers and how they're going to impact our health and lives.

For me, in particular, I've abused M1 (methylone) and MXE (methoxetamine) badly and have suffered from that... I wouldn't touch 3-FPM.


Evey, you have a kid, you need to be aware about what you are doing taking this stuff.
 
It's like I said, too perfect, too slick with a horrorshow lurking below the facade.

I really want to be able to say that orally it's controllable, because it is useful and if you could hold off the downsides it'd be wonderful to keep around. But I can't trust that it's not the 3-FPM telling me that I should keep using it, when I should actually stop now before it consumes me. I know I am certainly going to stay away from any RoA more potent than oral, because it's just not worth the risks to get a rush.

I'm well aware I sound like I'm rationalising and in denial, but I also know that so far I have been able to avoid the urge to redose more than I have planned to. Definitely not doing another all-nighter on this shit though.
 
I can attest that the heavy use of 3-FPM, or any other heavily dopaminergic drug, followed by discontinuation is not good for one's brain's reward centre and one's mental stability :|
 
I agree Sprout makes some very valid points on the potential neurotoxicity and cardiotoxic effects that this substance could hold. Shooting the messenger or ignoring the advice and storming off annoyed that it goes against the train of thought that 3FPM is ace and harmless is quite frankly stupid. Bluelight is about HR. Sprout is providing some and i know if i was taking this shit i would want to know what he has to say.
 
Ahhh Kate, you flatter me boo. <3
I have a science background, yes, but I have zero formal education in Psychopharmacology, or indeed anything outside Bacterial Genetics (Micro/Molecular Bio is a fancier title than the field actually entails). Everything I know with regards to this forum is self-taught, and I will never claim to be educated, only self educated and accepting of the pit falls that entails.
I never got the chance to study my aspirations formally (you try doing your Med school acceptance exams while living in a bus station and having an IV Smack addiction...) but I do what I can to help myself and others regardless.


<3
 
Feeling more mellow now so I feel I can post here again. Ponch you've a point n the old e used to research stuff before I took it. Wont be taking any in the new year anyhow. I wish these scales would hurry up they've messaged me saying they sent them 3 days ago. I'm not so bothered because it's the Christmas build up n I didn't expect them to be here quick. But be nice to do this more safely n familiarise myself with doses. Do it more safely. Please don't anyone have a go I can't help it if they've not arrived n I couldn't have that lying around without taking it as last week was a stressful one hahaha :)

Evey
 
I went and read through the current generation of amphetamine neurotoxicity thread over on NPD. I'd link but I'm curled up in bed on my phone at the moment and can't be arsed. As best as I can tell, the most effective preventative agents against oxidative stress are vitamin E, possibly melatonin, ALCAR (acetyl something or other carnitine, go check the thread, again I am on phone and CBA to go find thread again) and the acid whose name temporarily escapes me that ALCAR is normally combined with. Potentially a DRI such as methylphenidate would help too. Other than that, time and taking it easy seem to be the best protective factors. No 16 day or 7 gram binges ; )
 
You seem to be the only person here that can moderate and control their use of this substance Squid. Everyone else seems to go for days on end till they run out. It does not sound like a harmless drug to me. It sounds like its quite deceptive in its power and addictive potential.
 
Sprout said:
I've mentioned it numerous times if you take 5 minutes to even search my screen name alongside the drug name.
Do not rely on me for your own education on what you put into your own body.

I don't know if you've noticed either but 3-FPM is completely novel and almost completely unresearched. I am not a psychopharmacologist, I am not an expert by any means, I am far from resembling any kind of academic authority, I'm a Junkie with a slight knowledge of Biochem. trying to provide information that doesn't fucking exist yet!

Fuck it, I'm out.
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Just noticed this. Why react so childishly? I have a right to my opinion n that was how I felt. I don't rely on you for information at all but I felt you were illustrating the negatives now you're off it whereas when you were on this drug you appeared to be glorifying it.

If you feel I'm wrong then say so calmly n discuss it with me there's no need to completely over-react with me like that <3

Evey
 
consumer said:
You seem to be the only person here that can moderate and control their use of this substance Squid. Everyone else seems to go for days on end till they run out. It does not sound like a harmless drug to me. It sounds like its quite deceptive in its power and addictive potential.
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I hope that remains true, since I really enjoy the chattiness that's not just pure babble, more a desire to communicate to everyone you know. It does make me wonder how much RoA affects the fiending, since even relatively unnoticable nasal doses had me wanting to snort more. Not saying that oral is risk free of course, but IME it's easier to resist the urges that way.

On an unrelated note, I have some MPA and I'll be ordering some more 3-FPM, any thoughts on which will make for a better NYE party? Either one I'd be parachuting and re-upping to last till 6 am or so.
 
consumer said:
I have no idea as i have never taken either of those drugs. I must say though that 3fpm does not sound like a party drug. It sounds like a drug to take at home in front of the pc. I could be wrong but thats how it comes across to me.
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I've taken it clubbing and it was decent, I would agree that in front of the comp or maybe a chilled house party would be the ideal home for it at high doses, and low doses seem like they'd be good for study or travel. Gotta pick and choose your dose days though.

Only downside of the MPA is re-upping every hour. If only it came as XR caps, that'd be a far more useful form IMO.
 
Having only tried MPA I can't give you a definitive answer however 3-FPM sounds like it is better than MPA. I use the term 'better' loosely though, to me it's kind of like asking would you rather shag your mum or your dad for 1 million pounds.
 
Sprout said:
Ahhh Kate, you flatter me boo. <3
I have a science background, yes, but I have zero formal education in Psychopharmacology, or indeed anything outside Bacterial Genetics (Micro/Molecular Bio is a fancier title than the field actually entails). Everything I know with regards to this forum is self-taught, and I will never claim to be educated, only self educated and accepting of the pit falls that entails.
I never got the chance to study my aspirations formally (you try doing your Med school acceptance exams while living in a bus station and having an IV Smack addiction...) but I do what I can to help myself and others regardless.


<3
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Eveleivibe said:
Just noticed this. Why react so childishly? I have a right to my opinion n that was how I felt. I don't rely on you for information at all but I felt you were illustrating the negatives now you're off it whereas when you were on this drug you appeared to be glorifying it.

If you feel I'm wrong then say so calmly n discuss it with me there's no need to completely over-react with me like that <3

Evey
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Me childish?
I'm not even going there right now.
Get off that ugly looking horse and take a few minutes to actually appreciate the potential consequences of multi-day binges with drugs no one has a clue about. They're not 'aaacceee', they're terrifying.
 
consumer said:
The only drug i could be bothered with having to take it every hour is coke. And i dont think coke is much of a party drug either. Much better suited to house parties. What are the effects of MPA like?
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Tried to edit a post and mobile BL ate it, grrrr.

Quick version, with the caveat I have no first hand experience with speed: weaker speed that lasts 1.5h orally, first hit will be the best high you get that session, re-upping keeps you stimulated but not euphoric.

I have a couple of trip notes I can chuck up if you're interested, never bothered cause MPA got bollocked here about a day after I tried it.
 
consumer said:
Yeah chuck the trip reports up. I am curious about all these RCs. It doesnt sound like it was very popular from what i just read though.
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I'll get them up when I wake up. I think it had a bit of popularity as an E knockoff combined with MDAI, but straight not so much. I had a good time with it both gaming and at the show though.
 
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