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Regional Pills/MDMA Discussion: Next Cunt to Name a Naughty Web Vendor Gets Infracted

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Sorry Treacle but ...

This was possible because traffickers substituted the less widely available PMK with PMK-glycidate, a derivative of PMK which is easily converted into the "parent" form. PMK-glycidate was first seized in an ecstasy and methamphetamine laboratory in the Netherlands along with instructions for its conversion into PMK and the substance has since appeared in other countries.
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https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/fron...-to-manufacture-party-pills-unodc-expert.html

Limeys post now too, this now to me is a proven theory it is not a case of people lost the magic. There are just a lot of Dutch presses the MDMA is not that good. But why? I wish I knew the answer.
 
I acquired some capsules recently with 100mg of MDMA in them. They were excellent, and much better than 200mg of MDMA I got from someone else recently.
Tried hello kitty's recently and red Audi grills. Both disappointing. Snapchats were shit too.
I've got some of the pink Audemar Piguets for next week. Anyone recommend those? Heard they are good beans.
 
Has any body lab tested the Lime Green Snapchat's with C.P on back? Sold as 220/250mg MDMA. Reports from strong to weak.


Limey said:
I've got some of the pink Audemar Piguets for next week. Anyone recommend those? Heard they are good beans.
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Are they 3D shaped with a cog outline? They are sold as 200/220mg MDMA.

I'm talking about these http://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=34808

Lab tested at 206mg MDMA.
 
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Sidnafilisevil said:
Sorry Treacle but ...



https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/fron...-to-manufacture-party-pills-unodc-expert.html

Limeys post now too, this now to me is a proven theory it is not a case of people lost the magic. There are just a lot of Dutch presses the MDMA is not that good. But why? I wish I knew the answer.
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Interesting... I guess we'll see what the PMK MDMA I've got is like, then, compared to the safrole synthed stuff. I should have some news, in the next day or two. I really want to know the answer to this quandary!

See, now I've read that link, it says that the main chemical used was PMK, before the drought, but now it's PMK glycidate. This makes me think that it's the problem...
 
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PMK glycidate is to blame for all the shit MDMA. It's the main precursor that the dutch labs use to make MDMA. 50kg of PMK glycidate will make about 30ltrs of PMK oil.

It's easier to smuggle in due to being a powder in comparison to smuggling in barrels of liquid chemicals. And it's probably much cheaper to source and produce.

Safrole oil and synths are a thing of the past. Remember that massive safrole oil bust in Cambodia which caused the huge drought. Safrole is not coming back sadly.

What I am really sad about is that we don't get any high dosed MDMA/MDA pills anymore. Those times were the best drug experience I've ever had.

The lack of MDMA/MDA/MDE pills with no supply of safrole oil is probably why people think pills were better back in the day.
 
Well, there's still good stuff about, as proven by the Dutch Lions, and years of amazing pills from Manchester. Someone is sill making the stuff right. Let's just hope other producers start putting as much effort in.
 
Treacle said:
PMK was used to make MDMA before the drought and it was always fine. It's the use of PMK glycidate that's the cause of all of the shit going around.
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Source for this? I thought PMK was used almost exclusively post-drought.

The drought was caused safrole oil bust in Cambodia (as mentioned above). Why would there have been a massive 2-3 year dry spell if chemists could have been using PMK all that time?

As for 'PMK MDMA', how can anyone really trust vendors? I remember buying MDMA advertised as PMK, the vendor almost prided himself on it. This was what I got:

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And it was complete garbage, I mean fuck me it looked the part, crushed up nicely, tested fine, bleh.

That's another thing, for those who snort their MDMA. Does anyone notice a distinct difference in burn and texture (lol) when snorting stuff that's turned out to be shit as apposed to good? Good MDMA is usually more crystaline even when crushed up into powder, and the burn is eye watering in severity. Bad MDMA I've had seems to go 'up the hatch' quite easily with much less burn.
 
Tec said:
how can anyone really trust vendors?
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You can never trust what dealers say. They are compulsive liars and will say anything to sell shit. The only thing you can trust is community based reviews and lab test results. Dealers lie all the time about the quality of their product. 99% of dealers are professional liars.
 
packet_sniffer said:
You can never trust what dealers say. They are compulsive liars and will say anything to sell shit. The only thing you can trust is community based reviews and lab test results. Dealers lie all the time about the quality of their product. 99% of dealers are professional liars.
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Which is why I've swerved MDMA completely for pills when I used to be the opposite. Bluelight is fantastic for feedback but that's difficult with crystal and those who review from vendors on 'the internet' don't know what they're talking about.
 
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PMK glycidate is to blame for all the shit MDMA. It's the main precursor that the dutch labs use to make MDMA. 50kg of PMK glycidate will make about 30ltrs of PMK oil.

It's easier to smuggle in due to being a powder in comparison to smuggling in barrels of liquid chemicals. And it's probably much cheaper to source and produce.

Safrole oil and synths are a thing of the past. Remember that massive safrole oil bust in Cambodia which caused the huge drought. Safrole is not coming back sadly.

What I am really sad about is that we don't get any high dosed MDMA/MDA pills anymore. Those times were the best drug experience I've ever had.

The lack of MDMA/MDA/MDE pills with no supply of safrole oil is probably why people think pills were better back in the day.
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PMK glycidate I'm guess is just the term for the form it's smuggled in (powder you say) and easily converted to PMK oil. Then used to make ecstasy.

So by your reckoning it's the PMK stuff that is flat out not as good? While ive only had stuff I can verify I've had safrole stuff on a few occasions when I had it was always a full effect and more energetic.

The bust in Cambodia was big but there was a huge PMK bust in 2006 or 2007 in the Netherlands so that would point to them using it before the drought as Treacle says.

There is definitely still safrole made stuff around I've had it a few times. Based on the effect I remember from the Manc crew pills I would say the ones in the beginning felt similar to safrole made MDMA but I haven't had the later presses. Also one of the biggest UK suppliers online offers safrole made MDMA. This is all just my theory. It seems very hard to get a definite answer because of the legal issues.
 
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PMK glycidate I'm guess is just the term for the form it's smuggled in (powder you say) and easily converted to PMK oil. Then used to make ecstasy. So by your reckoning it's the PMK stuff that is flat out not as good? While ive only had stuff I can verify I've had safrole stuff on a few occasions when I had it was always a full effect and more energetic. The bust in Cambodia was big but there was a huge PMK bust in 2006 or 2007 in the Netherlands so that would point to them using it before the drought as Treacle says. There is definitely still safrole made stuff around I've had it a few times. Based on the effect I remember from the Manc crew pills I would say the ones in the beginning felt similar to safrole made MDMA but I haven't had the later presses. Also one of the biggest UK suppliers online offers safrole made MDMA. This is all just my theory. It seems very hard to get a definite answer because of the legal issues.
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I haven't had any of the new dutch made MDMA or dutch made pills so I can't really judge the quality of the MDMA. PMK glycidate is a white powder made in China. It makes PMK oil. The bust in Cambodia hit the market hard. 10 tonnes of safrole oil was destroyed. Basically the worlds supply. Safrole has been impossible to find since the bust. It just doesn't exist. I honestly doubt there is still safrole made MDMA still being produced anywhere but in Canada these days. I think who ever told you that it was safrole MDMA is a big fat liar. Vendors lie about the quality of drugs they sell. Online is no different to offline. Dealers like to talk a lot of shit. Most don't know how the MDMA is made. They are just making shit up.
 
Lovely, my Orange Lions arrived. Though I can see the confusion over colour, they're definitely peach coloured but photograph as orange.

Pretty pumped for these :D

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packet_sniffer said:
I haven't had any of the new dutch made MDMA or dutch made pills so I can't really judge the quality of the MDMA. PMK glycidate is a white powder made in China. It makes PMK oil. The bust in Cambodia hit the market hard. 10 tonnes of safrole oil was destroyed. Basically the worlds supply. Safrole has been impossible to find since the bust. It just doesn't exist. I honestly doubt there is still safrole made MDMA still being produced anywhere but in Canada these days. I think who ever told you that it was safrole MDMA is a big fat liar. Vendors lie about the quality of drugs they sell. Online is no different to offline. Dealers like to talk a lot of shit. Most don't know how the MDMA is made. They are just making shit up.
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The 10 tonnes that they seized was 2 years ago now. Safrass the tree used to make safrole is still growing in areas of North America and East Asia. I agree most dealers online or irl will say anything to sell their stuff but there is still the odd honest guy at the top, who want to make the best product. But isn't PMK originally made from safrass anyway, so there must be some around anyway?

Even if you look on the markets there is clearly better MDMA available. Just not from the one-stop-shop pills, MDMA, paste type operations. These are the bulk dealers, but the stuff isn't always as refined as it could be. A quick wash with acetone would probably help a fair bit in most cases. It's funny they all say "highest attainable purity 84%" but then if you wash it you still loose some. So not the highest attainable purity. As someone said earlier I doubt everyone who is actually producing the MDMA is a trained chemist either.
 
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Tec said:
Lovely, my Orange Lions arrived. Though I can see the confusion over colour, they're definitely peach coloured but photograph as orange.

Pretty pumped for these :D

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I spot new Microsofts, from the Manchester crew. I expect they'll be like Rainbow Drops, but do let us know what they're like, because I believe these are the latest press. It could be a decent batch.
 
Did they release Microsoft's again? Those are the pre-Rainbow Drop ones unfortunately, I only ever took one and posted a very weird trip report on here. Turned out that were 70mg, is that right? I just never fancied re-visiting them.

The Green Stars though, I need to try these again. I thought they might have been the holy grail ones BlueBull mentioned but (dropping alone) they didn't tick the right boxes.. and are still available as far as I know.
 
packet_sniffer said:
Has any body lab tested the Lime Green Snapchat's with C.P on back? Sold as 220/250mg MDMA. Reports from strong to weak.





Are they 3D shaped with a cog outline? They are sold as 200/220mg MDMA.

I'm talking about these http://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=34808

Lab tested at 206mg MDMA.
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Yes those are the ones.
I didn't get much but a speedy feeling off 3 snapchats, but a friend of mine said he was rolling balls off half ?!?!?
 
Tec: Yeah, there's a new batch of them out, which I'm assuming are stronger. The first ones felt about 70mg to me...
 
I've just heard from a few friends who said that yellow shells are amazing, they've been tested on checkit as only having 90-110mg of MDMA with a low dose of caffeine 10-30mg (not a deal breaker as there are much much worse adulterants)
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they were better than some of the 200mg + pills.
I'm getting a couple of them as a freebie, so no big loss of they're shit. I'll give an honest report on those too.

On Friday I did half a hello kitty and about 200-300 mg of mediocre MDMA. Wondered if it was a tolerance issue (lost the magic as the yanks say)
However Saturday proved this not to be the case as I had a great time on one capsule which was advertised as 0.1g of 88% pure MDMA (made in the USA)
A friend who hadn't taken ecstasy since the 90s thought it was excellent too! There's definitely good MDMA around it's just rare and losing the magic seems like a lame excuse for shitty MDMA to me.
 
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