All meat contains bad fat? Have you ever heard of turkey meat before? Low fat turkey meat has literally no fat in it at all. Chicken like turkey meat has such a minimal amount that it its normally burned out during cooking and has little to no value
Turkey contains small amounts of saturated fat, just like any meat or dairy product. You're right that the amount of saturated fat in some cuts of turkey is very small, but you are the one arguing that no one should consume any of this substance ever, not me.
I use the paleo diet and consume plenty of foods that consist of no bad fat because of the amount im supposed to consume as opposed to the amount of carbs I take in. So im not talking out of my ass at all
I hate to break it to you, mate, but if you're eating meat, you're eating saturated fats. I'm not judging (I'm the person who thinks there shouldn't be a moral element to what we eat, remember?) and it's entirely likely that you're eating in accordance to your body's needs. But if you think you're excluding absolutely all "bad" fats (or that you need to), you're simply wrong.
If you eat normally and take care of yourself then yes, in moderation technically you can consume anything you want I never dispused that.
You did dispute that. Repeatedly. Half the thread consists of you disputing that statement.
Eating something in moderation does not count as a part of your diet.
This is such a completely nonsense interpretation of the word "diet" that I am baffled as to what you are trying to say.
I'm not being aggressive, i have read the thread. It is painful to read, to be honest.
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And thats not true, there are plenty of diets that are unhealthy for you.
Yes, there are plenty of diets that are unhealthy
for you. There are plenty of diets that are unhealthy
for me. There are plenty of diets that are unhealthy for Joe the Bodybuilder or Desiree the recovering bulemic or Evan the Toddler. My point has been that these diets - and their healthy equivalents - might be wildly different for each person. One person's unhealthy is another person's ideal consumption.
I think the problem with this debate is that there is food that is high in crap your body doesn't need but does have some nutrients. Like a Big Mac for example is high in sodium, preservatives and saturated fat but you're also getting a fair amount of protein. So not everything about a Big Mac is bad, but it would still be better to get your protein from a healthier source. That's not to say that you couldn't fit a Big Mac into an otherwise healthy diet once in a while, but at least here in the US a lot of people don't get moderation and half of their diet is fast food.
Exactly correct! Literally no one has been saying "It is a good idea for most people in Western nations to eat Big Macs all the time." No one. But a diet that includes a Big Mac every now and then within the dietary needs of the individual is not "unhealthy" just because that person's salt, preservative and fat intake for that period has disproportionately come from one item (putting aside the fact that Maccas is freaking disgusting).
And even if the Big Mac does contain more salt or fat or preservatives than an individual "shoul"d be eating, that doesn't make the Big Mac "bad". It's not sinful to eat the Big Mac even if doing so is a poor dietary choice.
ALMOST anyone? lol Tell me exactly who NEEDS Crisco.
I can think of plenty of uses for Crisco, but none of them involve nutrition.
I've never heard of anyone with a Crisco deficiency.
Nope, but there are definitely people who are advised to eat high fat meals for a period of time. I can't think of any instances in which a doctor would advise literally eating Crisco out of the jar, but as I said above I know someone who was advised to add sour cream (basically saturated fat) to their meals to gain weight. And that's just in the sphere of people I know personally.
This is the problem with your argument. I get where you're coming from but you can't admit that there are "food" products out there that nobody needs, and I use the term food loosely.
You're setting up a strawman. I never said anyone "needed" to eat vegetable shortening straight, or that doing so was a healthy food choice. I never said anyone "needed" to eat Big Macs or Snickers Bars or Pepsi or any of the other Ooga Booga BAD foods you're all throwing out there. I just said that, for some people with specific medical and health needs, higher than usual quantities of saturated fat might be a positive and healthy dietary addition. As such, it's incorrect to call these foods universally "unhealthy".
