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Queen "disappears" Canadian Mohawk children, Maloney outs Prince Charles, Dunblane

Its all Monsantos fault

I don't know where your new love mention of Monsanto comes from Ponch (but let's not forget these are the wonderful people responsible for the manufacture and spread of agent Orange during the Vietnam war) but its undeniable they produce at best tasteless food far removed from what fruit and vegetables used to taste like.

And as for your sneering little post about anti-Monsanto activists and the power of 'you are what you eat', I for one have just seen an 87 year old relative defy modern medicine by outliving his asbestos based tumour for two years longer than the baffled doctors gave him any chance. He did so by eating vegetables and salad from his garden that utilised certain properties widely acknowledged by many at keeping cancer and metastatis at bay.

But if it's easier for you to sneer and blindly accept modern western medicine has all the answers (then why haven't we found one pill that cures cancer yet?) then be my guest to go ahead.

You are what you eat.
 
Sorry man I've been reading too many comments on the Anonymous facebook page.

I agree that we are what we eat, I'm a huge advocate of a balanced diet being the first and most important step to health & well being. I will happily tell that to people that think they can cheat themselves thin by ignoring certain food groups or reach for pills as a quick fix.

My issue lies with people that make claims with no scientific basis or fail to understand the difference between GMOs and selective breeding of plant species. It's almost impossible to avoid selectively bred food as humans have been doing this since pretty much the birth of agriculture.

I don't think modern medicine is perfect (if it was we would all be pretty much inmortal) but to claim it is one big scam is a bit much don't you think?
 
Sorry Si i was just doing my socratic conspiracist thing. (just a bit more): BHM (if you're still reading (please do keep trying - i'm honestly open to evidence)) - so now we're back to 'chemtrails to alleviate global warming' idea (ie increasing albedo to generate 'global dimming') which i said i found the least implausible - ie the elite knowing global warming is real and wanting to do something about it (they do breathe the same air as us as you say scotch), but not wanting to give up their growth spurt or petrodollar advantage until they've put the finishing touches on the global neoliberal empire (or 'saved the world' as they probably see it)). Though then you're left with the global warming being real thing.

The global warming alleviation idea lines up with the 'proper' geoengineering research there is, although ostensibly this is mostly theoretical. There might well be some 'secret' activity trying this stuff out, even on a large scale (i've seen pictures of the criss-crossed trails), but i still don't buy that all planes are in on it, or that it's in full operation globally - ockham won't allow me (let alone the area/volume involved) - also i've seen plenty of persistent contrails which are from normal planes on the normal route they follow (no criss-crossing, no different planes (i know planes)) - though they only appear in certain weather conditions, and other times don't spread at all. Are they invisible when i can't see them? If not, they missed a bit. So which is it? global warming or population reduction?

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Si: i did read a lot of stuff about dunblane a while back, but it was very mixed up with disinformation (lots of tenuous stuff about george robertson that didn't seem to bear scrutiny) - seems likely there's something important there with the 100 years thing (some sort of royal link maybe), though this is usually answered by saying they made it secret to protect the names of victims (which seems plausible). As with the chemtrails the absence of something can't on its own be positive enough evidence for me - there's enough circumstantial to justify sustained digging to be sure - i'll check out the woman you mentioned to catch up.

To me the big paedo story right now which doesn't seem to be widely known is 'Govenrment pushes back paedo inquiry's report until after the next election' that i seem to remember hearing; not to mention 'BBC tries to push back the report into itself about paedos until 2016, after their charter has been renewed' (suggesting that the results are going to be damning); and then there's the one i put in the other paedo thread 'Dragons Den star who was advisor to cameron and osbourne (pig-fucker and the gimp/oik) charged with paedo offences from earlier this year' (story released on the same day as cameron announced those drones killings so hardly anyone noticed); plus all the harvey proctor 'i'm innocent! but i'm leaving the country just in case' stuff.
 
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Sorry man I've been reading too many comments on the Anonymous facebook page.

I agree that we are what we eat, I'm a huge advocate of a balanced diet being the first and most important step to health & well being. I will happily tell that to people that think they can cheat themselves thin by ignoring certain food groups or reach for pills as a quick fix.

My issue lies with people that make claims with no scientific basis or fail to understand the difference between GMOs and selective breeding of plant species. It's almost impossible to avoid selectively bred food as humans have been doing this since pretty much the birth of agriculture.

I don't think modern medicine is perfect (if it was we would all be pretty much inmortal) but to claim it is one big scam is a bit much don't you think?

Yes.I don't read know-nothing science by hippies. But I do keep up, for personal reasons, with latest ideas about foods and supplements that have an unrivalled track record (and piss over western cancer pills) in the preventative treatment of cancer. Here's some.

Four supplements for all. Vitamin D3/K2. Number 1 supplement by far. 4 hours in the sunshine each day and 5000IUs od D3. Protects the liver as well.

Curcumin (turmeric) anti-cancer action plus reduces toxicity of chemo drugs. Kills microbes in gut and reduces metastasis

Fish oils - reduce imflammation,,reduces risk of cachaxeia.

Probiotics - Essential while having orthodox treatments. Without a healthy microbiomeyou cannot make crucial compunds from your food. (Like B vitamins and Vitamin K)

Indole 3 carbinol DM. Denatures aggressive oestrogen, protects DNA and has been dubbed a safer tamoxifen by at least one drug company.

Melatonin The biggest anti-oxidant we make. Relegates oestrogen.

Aspirin - reduces metastasis

Ginger 10g a day in drinks does wonders

Chicken soup - releases natural analgesics

Grape seed extract - 46% more potent than any similar product in US studies

Echinacea

Vitamin E

Artemesinin - effective anti-cancer properties

Milk thistle and Dandelion - apart from Magnesium and vitamin K these two herbs are both great for liver

Green Tea - not a supplement. Should be tea of choice.

Many more anti-cancer properties are found in fruits like rasperies, flowers like dandelions and many normal herbs, apples, carrots and (especially the skin of) citrus fruit.

All of the above have proved at least as effective at fighting long term cancer as ANY cancer drug.

You choose your garden or big pharma. I know which one will keep you alive longer.
 
(not sure who's strawman this is, but prepare for waffle) Genetic modification rests on the assumption that we understand how cells and dna work when we're still years off - we can understand how to read the dna code to get proteins, and how to bombard cells with edited ecoli in the hope that some of the dna ends up where we want, but we're only just starting to explore how the dna functions as part of a living network rather than passive code (gene switching, methylation, epigenetics etc) - ask any cell biologist and they'll tell you we've got a long way to go. Given that, the claims made by GMO industry seem dodgy to say the least.

That change in genetics is i think indicative of a general shift in science back towards a more systems-oreintated holistic approach, which may mean more appreciation of what the reductionist would previously write off as old wives tales (such as some of the stuff you list SHM) because they couldn't be understood with an electron microscope, molecule by molecule, but had be contextualised in a wider complex system (irreducible complexity)
 
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and yeah shambles, those are kc-11something midair refueling jets (not passenger planes, fubar) outfitted for spraying.

the x's were the last innovation - they began with horizon to horizon, 100mile ropes - & now cleverly have learnt to

restrict their activities instead to many, very short whisps, at dawn, dusk & night - which expand into haze just as the

gargantuan ropes do. but infinitely more difficult for the untrained eye to discern. the xs i believe are a particularly

effective/efficient form for airvectoring increases in the resultant haze spread/speed. that you managed to witness the

telltale on/off application required in these new forms. as it shows this condensation/humidity argument to be nonsense

use this as a suspect guide, to look up, especially on mornings where high pressure is expected. and decide for yourself

But you happily put all sorts of unknown shit into your veins.

*known shit
 
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Curcumin ......Green Tea...... fruits like rasperies, flowers like dandelions and many normal herbs, apples, carrots and (especially the skin of) citrus fruit.

All of the above have proved at least as effective at fighting long term cancer as ANY cancer drug.

You choose your garden or big pharma. I know which one will keep you alive longer.

What about Garlic?

I seem to be forever reading about Garlics' incredible preventative and curative properties for all types of ailments ranging from the common cold right through to heart disease and cancer. In lab tests it has been shown to destroy cancer cells, though they havent yet been able to replicate those type of results in live human subjects. The evidence is kind of lacking, but anecdotally it seems to be regarded as a miraculous wonder drug by many people you might call 'hippies'.
 
Please dont tell me this is about people believing that jet engine contrails are actually trails of gas designed to alter the atmosphere. That much is true, as they cause an awful lot of pollution, but please dont tell me you believe they are some sort of deliberately released 'chemtrail' designed to fuck us all up.

With the amount of chemtrails on my forearms and the less visible ones going down my throat or lungs or through my nose, I dont see why they would bother anyway

I wish id ignored BHM now. Not only did I keep what was a fairly depressing thread active, I didnt get any acknowledgement for the last sentance, which is the cleverist thing Ive thought up in ages. I dont reach for the stars anymore, keep your aspirations and standards low for long enough and then everything becomes a bonus.
 
Sorry Si i was just doing my socratic conspiracist thing.

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Si: i did read a lot of stuff about dunblane a while back, but it was very mixed up with disinformation (lots of tenuous stuff about george robertson that didn't seem to bear scrutiny) - seems likely there's something important there with the 100 years thing (some sort of royal link maybe), though this is usually answered by saying they made it secret to protect the names of victims (which seems plausible). As with the chemtrails the absence of something can't on its own be positive enough evidence for me - there's enough circumstantial to justify sustained digging to be sure - i'll check out the woman you mentioned to catch up.

To me the big paedo story right now which doesn't seem to be widely known is 'Govenrment pushes back paedo inquiry's report until after the next election' that i seem to remember hearing; not to mention 'BBC tries to push back the report into itself about paedos until 2016, after their charter has been renewed' (suggesting that the results are going to be damning); and then there's the one i put in the other paedo thread 'Dragons Den star who was advisor to cameron and osbourne (pig-fucker and the gimp/oik) charged with paedo offences from earlier this year' (story released on the same day as cameron announced those drones killings so hardly anyone noticed); plus all the harvey proctor 'i'm innocent! but i'm leaving the country just in case' stuff.

No need to apologise, again, my thread gets views while you guys jabber about chemtrails :) I apologise for being snarky, whatever that is.

Yes, the gag order is said to have been to hide more than just the identities of the young people, all now in their 30's, 40's, 50's who might have been caught up in Hamiltons activities. But the names of people involved could easily be redacted & this precedent has been set many times. Papers are released so as to illustrate, for instance, a time-line of events without naming the persons involved.

Sandra Uttlley has incontravertible evidence that Thomas Hamilton was NOT killed by his own hand. The accepted narrative is that after shooting 16 kids & a teacher in the school gym, despite having considerable amounts ammunition left, he turned his gun on himself. But witnesses on the day, including an off-duty police officer whose evidence was for some inexplicable reason excluded from the enquiry, claim to have seen evidence that Hamilton was shot by someone else. Another witness, parents of a dead child, claimed to have seen bullet holes behind Hamilton's dead body, where he would have had no reason to fire rounds. This man was adept with his weapons, he shot on ranges regularly, he had many Police friends. He would not have fired into an empty wall with no targets in the area other than himself!

No-one knows why but it is suspected that someone encouraged Hamilton to visit the school with his guns & deliberately shadowed him to the school with the intention of stopping him from doing too much harm. Apparently, Hamilton planned to murder the headmaster in front of assembly, but when he realised he'd missed the assembly he flew into a rage & shot the kids in a fury. For some reason whomever shadowed Hamilton that day was armed & killed him before he could do any more harm. Despite the fact that this man would be a hero, no-one knows who he is/was...

Someone else killed Hamilton that day. His paedophile history & his paedophile connections have been covered up. WHO were his paedophile connections? WHO shot him if he did not kill himself?

Uttley says she has presented her evidence to every major paper in the country & not one of them will touch it. She has PROOF that Hamilton did not kill himself, but not one paper in this country will report it! Remember when Prince Harry served in Afghanistan & the worlds media played along & kept schtum until some Aussies got hold of the story? The newspapers & media outlets were TOLD that Harry was in Afghanistan & to keep quiet about it.

Even Uttley has had enough. She encourages me to continue her work & put me in touch with an investigative reporter from Exaro who is going to be seeing Uttley & get hold of all her evidence to go through. There's a lot of it, takes up a room. Big job. I may be able to help with the reading but that's about all I can do

Plenty of reporters working on the more prescient stories of paedophiles you mention at the bottom of your post. No-one wants to touch Dunblane even though paedophile stories are busting open left, right & centre. Why?
 
What are you suggesting Si? Did he have information on someone and was a threat or did he have friends that do not want their name tarnished by association?

From what I gather it's common knowledge he had an unhealthy interest in young boys (it's even on wikipedia) so seems unlikely he would be in a position to threaten or blackmail anyone given the dirt people could use against him.
 
Uttley says she has presented her evidence to every major paper in the country & not one of them will touch it. She has PROOF that Hamilton did not kill himself, but not one paper in this country will report it!

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Even Uttley has had enough. She encourages me to continue her work

Post said PROOF!!! up here then. Cos, quite frankly, nothing you have so far said even casts doubt on 'the official story'. Skip all the circumstantial bullshit (cos it's - in all honesty - poor so far) and post up this PROOF. This Uttley woman doesn't want to continue her work and has apparently passed it on to you. If this is the case then leave the conspiratorial shit behind and post this PROOF here publicly.

I'm gonna assume right now this will not happen. Why? Cos somebody is selling a book and, moreover, the snippets you've presented here are borderline ridiculous. The single exception is the 100 year 'gag order' (would be considerably better if that could be put into more accurate legal terms though). I'm big on tinfoilery but I'm struggling here even though I'm trying.

You have access to PROOF. So PROVE it.
 
I'm lost as to what you want to achieve Si dread and worry how far down the rabbit hole you will go, losing sight of day.

Fact throughout history the week and unstable have been controlled by those with power to do their bidding. There has always been the World order.

They have and will always identify and use weak men and women, supply them with their weakness and get them to do their bidding. They can't operate without them. But we cant hope to stop them.

Look at any business / company and you can see the pattern there. There's even theory that most of the worlds leading business men are sociopaths or psychopaths as you need these traits to make the hard decisions. Always those promoted are those who say yes.

Even if we expose the low and middle tiers. That's all you touched on in your study so far. They will be protected or replaced / slaughtered.

Does it matter to us, the man on the street? Yes if they use our kids but in reality it matters not one bit to our existence provided we are aware of the actual structure of society and how it is manipulated.

Do we actually think justice is real? Justice has never been real it's just a method created by those in power to make us feel secure and pliant to the laws they dictate to protect their interests.

I don't worry about anything that I can not change. All interesting sure and I could add loads more because I've always looked at the gaps. I've even gained a reaction though investigating the wrong things (scary) and it quickly reinforces what I believe now why become a martyr to something you can not even hope to change. Let them get on with it, hopefully they will progress in their methods but likely not because they have worked for centuries.

In every story there is an element of truth. Media (in all history) and Internet are there purely to tell us what we want to hear or what they want us to hear so we can be contained. We don't own the Internet or media or what goes on it or more importantly stays on it.

Maybe in 100 years time people will say why the hell did they do nothing (as per the Germans and the Jewish holocaust) but reality is we can't do anything and even if we could we can easily become the victim.

Don't be thinking to much Si Dread, keep in mind your purpose. You can't stop them. But yes it's interesting, we should keep people informed whether people are thinking we are nuts or not. After all I used to be one of the uninformed, perhaps I was blissful in ignorance ?
 
What about Garlic?

I seem to be forever reading about Garlics' incredible preventative and curative properties for all types of ailments ranging from the common cold right through to heart disease and cancer. In lab tests it has been shown to destroy cancer cells, though they havent yet been able to replicate those type of results in live human subjects. The evidence is kind of lacking, but anecdotally it seems to be regarded as a miraculous wonder drug by many people you might call 'hippies'.

My list was by no means exhaustive and garlic does indeed have anti-cancer properties (though science is yet to work out why). It is particularly effective in stomach, gastric and colon cancers. There are widespread studies showing this. Thing is though, the garlic has to be fresh, chopped or squeezed. Cooking the garlic has been shown to make the anti-cancer properties all but inactive. Garlic has also been shown to work against the side effects of radiotherapy, particularly DNA and chromosome damage.
 
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