Best opiate for social anxiety?

[Long-Time-Lurker]

Hi BL, I am somewhat new to opiates and only had limited experience with fentanyl in the past. I now have the opportunity to buy, either heroin, oxynorm IR or reasonably priced methadone, and I was wondering which one do you think is best for anxiety management. I have used benzos before and I absolutely hate them. I do understand that they help some people, but benzos make me feel depressed and suicidal, and then give me an ugly hangover.

I have also previously used methamphetamine for social anxiety and it worked somewhat great, but it didn't completely eliminate my social anxiety, and I was too concerned about the neurotoxicity issue. I will probably make another thread explaining how bad my social anxiety really is to make me turn to opiates, but for now I would highly appreciate any advices on which of those 3 opiates is best for anxiety management. If none of the 3 are any good, what other opiates would you recommend? Thanks.

EDIT: I might have the opportunity to buy buprenorphine, would that be any good, I heard that it has a very long duration of action.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

Have you ever tried or considered kratom? I ask because I've personally found it to be very effective for anxiety & it's legal/cheap.

 

[pillman1224]

out of the three you mentioned oxynorm would be the best. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE 'DONE

 

[Epiper888]

Damn people really like using opaites to cure anxiety. I once did the same thing and now all I think about is pills. Just don't use opaites. My doctor put me on something called gabapentin. It has changed my life brotha. No anxeity and even makes me as socail as opiates. Also you can catch a nice buzz. Just please don't self medicate with opaites!

 

[Mysterie]

if your reason for using opiates is because you think it will medicate your social anxiety, then i would urge you to consider alternatives that don't involve using strong hard drugs.

not only is the potential for addiction a lot greater when that reasoning is used, the fallback can mean strong anxiety and depression for months after you try and quit once it has taken everything away from you.

 

[dopamimetic]

Yes, I can only agree to all the previous posters. Opioids are maybe the worst pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety possible. They will work initially, but the price you'll pay is multitudes higher than the initial relief. It - just- is -not- possible to safely use opioids for psychical problems.

Even stimulants are way better. If methamphetamine didn't do it or was too strong, you might consider methylphenidate or, if legal in your place, the calmer and more dopamine-selective RC derivate isopropylphenidate.
Very low (threshold) doses of ketamine or methoxetamine can be very anxiolytic and social lubricant too, if you respond to them.

Besides that, kava kava is said to do a good job. For occasional use, you might look into picamilon. Pregabalin (Lyrica) / Gabapentin (Neurontin) are pharmaceutically available anxiolytics that might be worth to try. They cause depencence to some degree but it's nothing in comparison to opioids or benzodiazepines.

 

[namnoc16]

I was the life of the party when I first started sniffing dope but long after the party was over I'd gotten to a point where I wanted nothing to do with anyone that wasn't in the chain of getting more dope. It got to a point me and my junky buddys would be huddled up in the wendys bathroom on a Friday night getting are fix on shooting dope. Tell you nothing like tracked up arms to bring back that social anxiety.

 

[Long-Time-Lurker]

Yes, I can only agree to all the previous posters. Opioids are maybe the worst pharmaceutical intervention for anxiety possible. They will work initially, but the price you'll pay is multitudes higher than the initial relief. It - just- is -not- possible to safely use opioids for psychical problems.

Even stimulants are way better. If methamphetamine didn't do it or was too strong, you might consider methylphenidate or, if legal in your place, the calmer and more dopamine-selective RC derivate isopropylphenidate.
Very low (threshold) doses of ketamine or methoxetamine can be very anxiolytic and social lubricant too, if you respond to them.

Besides that, kava kava is said to do a good job. For occasional use, you might look into picamilon. Pregabalin (Lyrica) / Gabapentin (Neurontin) are pharmaceutically available anxiolytics that might be worth to try. They cause depencence to some degree but it's nothing in comparison to opioids or benzodiazepines.

Thanks for the interesting suggestions, I suspect that I have ADHD (never got diagnosed though), I indeed tried both methyl and ethylphenidate, as well as 3,4-CTMP, and they had no impact on my anxiety, in other words, they didn't make worse or better, but they significantly improved my mood and motivation. Methamphetamine eliminated most symptoms of my social anxiety, like it was easy to talk to people and I could walk around the streets with unusual confidence, however it did not eliminate one imports part of my anxiety, it is the paranoid thoughts of what people that walk past me thought of me. I know that this might sound crazy, but it really bothers me, and so far no drug has helped with this, which is why I was asking about opiates with which I had very little experience.

What is up with that extremely negative stigma around opiates? They can't be that bad. You also mentioned prefab akin and gabapentin. Do you think that they will be able to effectively eliminate my paranoia issue? I'm sure dissociatives will completely eliminate my anxiety, but what if I go manic in a public place?

Damn people really like using opaites to cure anxiety. I once did the same thing and now all I think about is pills. Just don't use opaites. My doctor put me on something called gabapentin. It has changed my life brotha. No anxeity and even makes me as socail as opiates. Also you can catch a nice buzz. Just please don't self medicate with opaites!

if your reason for using opiates is because you think it will medicate your social anxiety, then i would urge you to consider alternatives that don't involve using strong hard drugs.

not only is the potential for addiction a lot greater when that reasoning is used, the fallback can mean strong anxiety and depression for months after you try and quit once it has taken everything away from you.

Sure, you're right, but my deblitiating social anxiety will shatter my life far more than any form of dependance or addiction.

Have you ever tried or considered kratom? I ask because I've personally found it to be very effective for anxiety & it's legal/cheap.

I've read quite a bit about it, but I never tried it. From most of the reports, it seems like Kratom is very similar to oxycodone.

 

[Long-Time-Lurker]

out of the three you mentioned oxynorm would be the best. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE 'DONE

Why? What's wrong with methadone? It has a very long duration of action and dissociative propeties, theoretically it should be great for anxiety.

I was the life of the party when I first started sniffing dope but long after the party was over I'd gotten to a point where I wanted nothing to do with anyone that wasn't in the chain of getting more dope. It got to a point me and my junky buddys would be huddled up in the wendys bathroom on a Friday night getting are fix on shooting dope. Tell you nothing like tracked up arms to bring back that social anxiety.

Well, if you experience the shear terror that I experience when stepping out of the house, then you would definitely choose to rather shoot dope than experience the horror of a life that I live in. Seriously, a dependance/addiction is by far not the worst thing that can happen in life, and my anxiety prevents me from living a normal life, in fact it prevents me from living even a semi-normal life. I'm also pretty careful when it comes to substances that cause physical dependance, for example I will only use once every three days, and on that day I would spend time productively outside of my house.

 

[namnoc16]

What is up with that extremely negative stigma around opiates? They can't be that bad.


Sure, you're right, but my deblitiating social anxiety will shatter my life far more than any form of dependance or addiction.

I've read quite a bit about it, but I never tried it. From most of the reports, it seems like Kratom is very similar to oxycodone.

Opiates get a bad wrap but they've earned it. They unlock your pleasure/reward zone in your brain unlike any other drug. In the beginning it is awesome but the returns are diminishing meaning you will need more to fill that growing empty hole. they also will cause you to effectively get no pleasure out of life if or when you get a huge habit.Trying to quit them your brain will no longer produce it's own endorphins and you will go through crippling depression. Opiates are a last stop pain management(long term script) for a reason mainly because the addiction can be a lot worse then the symptoms they control.
I am no doctor and I sympathize with your problem have you exhausted options with your local doctors, i'm sure there are other anxiety meds out there besides benzos(benzos don't do shit for me they just get me from anxious to tired and anxious).
Kratom is not even in the same ball park as oxys!

 

[namnoc16]

Why? What's wrong with methadone? It has a very long duration of action and dissociative propeties, theoretically it should be great for anxiety.

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Methadone as with all opiates/opiods you will get a dependence and build up tolerance and with methadone it's much faster then other opiates/opiods. Once you develop that tolerance the only thing it dose from then on is make you feel normal(whatever your starting normal was). Also it's the worst wds IMHO out of all of the opiate/opiods.I was sent to prison(no suboxone in the joint) and I was on 60 mg maintenance dose for years and then nothing. It wasn't as severe as h withdrawal but it lasts forever,couldn't sleep for months. The prison was nice enough to give me clonidine every other day,can you say cruel and inhumane?

 

[SKL]

Oxycodone, IMO, but as others have stated, using opiates to medicate social anxiety is not a good idea and will only lead you down a bad road. I know that you may not want to hear this but seek proper psychopharmacological intervention and/or (most likely and) psychotherapy.

 

[Long-Time-Lurker]

Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate your support and advices.
What about beta-blockers? Are they effective for anxiety? Here in the UK, it's pretty easy to get a script for them as far as I know and they are specifically prescribed for anxiety. They also don't cause physical dependance. I've also read a bit about pregabalin and it sounds pretty good, I think I might check it out at some point. And for my paranoia issue, could atypical anti-psychotics be any good? I heard they are effective at treating any type of paranoia.

 

[Epiper888]

Beta blockers are not that great unless your giving a speech. They help the physical symtoms of anxeity. Your mind won't be any less calmer. Pregablin is very good for anxiety. For me at least. If you can get pregablin than go for that. It makes me more socail unlike benzos witch just reduce anxiety.

 

[realtalkloc]

what are you insecure about in public? what worries you? what is the root cause? Once you learn to deal with that, you won't need opiates.

 

[sekio]

Opioids should absolutely never be used to manage social anxiety, they are no more than band-aids that won't ever fix the issue, and when you discontinue then you will have a hell of rebound anxiety to deal with.

Beta blockers are very effective for the physical manifestations of anxiety (shaky hands etc). They are definitely worth a try.

With paranoia and delusions it's really a "whatever sticks" type scenario. If you can find an atypical that manages your symptoms without causing too much in the way of side effects, stick to it like glue.

 

[Long-Time-Lurker]

I see... Thanks for all the great adivces guys, I will certainly look into Pregabalin, and possibly anti-psychs for my paranoia.

 

[sykosoma76]

If you want to prevent a fill blown addiction try Tramadol. Its an opioid which gives a nice mild buzz that last all day and if you have to quit it won't pit you in rehab. Any opiate is gonna take away anxiety. But its not worth the detox experience. I'd rather deal with anxiety and I have high anxiety already.. Do your research beforehand. This site isn't really good for keeping people off meds.. Itbis a good reference to prepare for the effect of a medication though.

 

[namnoc16]

Some people opiates can make the anxiety worse,we don't all get our nod on from dope it made me hyper ,couldn't stop talking,and amped me up. Opiates act more as a stimulant with me and if I just got the nods I don't think I'd ever gotten addicted, Called paradoxical affect. Would tend to believe it could make anxiety worse.
Tapentadol had me nodding and I didn't like it one bit,didn't feel high just couldn't keep my eyes open.My doctor said it was more mild pain killer then oxys but I couldn't function on them.

 

[AllorNothing]

I know your question is a few days old but for me I would choose heroin out of the 3 you mentioned. Honestly, I don't know what oxynorm is but if it's similar to oxycodone that would trump the H. I love H but it makes me sleepy. Oxy gives me the anxiety relief plus a good bit of "energy" so I can keep up with convo.