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Collecting the sap from opium poppy pods

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I've never fully understood this process/been able to make it work, and I noticed some opium poppies today so thought I'd have another shot.

Can anybody:

1. Explain how you make the slit in a poppy head to collect the sap and
2. Give an answer on whether the opium poppy head needs to be attached to the plant in order for it to work?

Cheers
 
no it doesnt need to be attached to work. just use a pin to slice down the pod, not too deep, maybe 1mm maximum. just enough for the sap to come out, but not enough so the opium leaks into the incision.

it's totally NOT worth the fuck on to do it though, just make tea. i made a little and smoked it of foil and it did work, but it's not worth the effort imo.
 
Dried pods cost an absolute fuckton themselves tho. They always say "Careful, you'll overdose on 5". So I took 2 to start with, then 10, then 30, then 60, then 100 and still felt fuck all. And that was with no opiate tolerance whatsoever.
 
Ismene said:
Dried pods cost an absolute fuckton themselves tho. They always say "Careful, you'll overdose on 5". So I took 2 to start with, then 10, then 30, then 60, then 100 and still felt fuck all. And that was with no opiate tolerance whatsoever.
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Yeh, but if you used poppies found at the side of the road in the UK, you'd need about a thousand to feel fuck all... :)
 
you need a 1 acre sized field of poppies to get 1g of opium ooze and a load of Afghans who will work for 2 pence a day.:\

I once grew about 50, and collected a tiny blob out of all, liked id picked my nose, the weather had been perfect throughout the seeding and growing season too..
 
I've actually collected a fair amount (pea size) of 'opium' from just one multi headed poppy several times in the past - the problem is that the majority is just useless plant material - it then needs to be boiled down, sieved and dried before it becomes even remotely worth smoking.
 
smackydowners said:
i'm in newcastle too. theyre everywhere at the moment eh?
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They hadn't really bothered me until today when I decided I'd like some.

If I blend a few pods and then steep it in water for a few minutes... Will that work? Do you include the pod itself I.e the green bit?

Cheers.

*zero opiate tolerance BTW.
 
Ismene said:
Dried pods cost an absolute fuckton themselves tho. They always say "Careful, you'll overdose on 5". So I took 2 to start with, then 10, then 30, then 60, then 100 and still felt fuck all. And that was with no opiate tolerance whatsoever.
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You seen to be imune to every stimulant or sedative! 2 giant pods does me fine with pretty much no tolerance.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I've actually collected a fair amount (pea size) of 'opium' from just one multi headed poppy several times in the past - the problem is that the majority is just useless plant material - it then needs to be boiled down, sieved and dried before it becomes even remotely worth smoking.
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Do yea mean the pod walls etc that you make tea with? Technically that isnt opium, it's the various opiate alkaloid extracts that give it it kick, codeine, thebaine, some others i cant recall, morphine too i think.. I once evaoprated a pan of poppy tea down to a solid pancake at the bottom of the pan. It was completely unsmokeable. It wouldnt light without just turning black and burning at all.:(

Or did you have a little chemistry knowledge to make the extract more successful. I believe even heroin can be made from the pod walls if you know what you are doing chemisty wise. Where is Walter White when you need him? :)
 
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Tranced said:
They hadn't really bothered me until today when I decided I'd like some.

If I blend a few pods and then steep it in water for a few minutes... Will that work? Do you include the pod itself I.e the green bit?

Cheers.

*zero opiate tolerance BTW.
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Most people sieve out the solid grounds. But if you can stomach them, swallow them and keep it down you'll be getting all the more alkaloids with absolutely nothing wasted. Needs simmering below 80 degrees c for 20 minutes. Too high a temp will destroy the alkaloids.

Isemene your pods must have been shite or you have no opiate receptors. A 100 tennis ball sized pods would kill most people ten times over. at the height of my habit i think i used 6 big dark pods iirc, and sometimes used the leftover sieved grounds from the previous batch for the second pass through as the base for the next batch of 6 fresh poppies. This increased the potency a LOT and i got supremely wasted doing that. I got a HR bollocking for saying that on here a while ago, so dont try it w/o a pretty big tolerance. I only did it once or twice as it probably is quite dangerous.
 
if the pods are still fresh then you'll either need to dry them before grinding (or youll get mush) or just finely chop them with a big sharp knife. simmer them in a pan for 20mins and strain and drink. i have no idea what your tolerance is or the size/strength of ya pods tho obviously, so i cant tell you how much to tqke. youre unlikely to OD, but they could make you very very ill.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Do yea mean the pod walls etc that you make tea with? Technically that isnt opium, it's the various opiate alkaloid extracts that give it it kick, codeine, thebaine, some others i cant recall, morphine too i think.. I once evaoprated a pan of poppy tea down to a solid pancake at the bottom of the pan. It was completely unsmokeable. It wouldnt light without just turning black and burning at all.:(

Or did you have a little chemistry knowledge to make the extract more successful. I believe even heroin can be made from the pod walls if you know what you are doing chemisty wise. Where is Walter White when you need him? :)
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Eh? The latex collected from the pods technically IS opium. 'Opium' is the collective name for morphine, codeine, thebaine etc. But the raw latex also contains a lot of plant material which needs to be removed to make refined or smoking opium. As the various desired alkaloids are very water soluble, this is done by dissolving the dried latex in hot water (actually not boiling as this can degrade the alkaloids), filtering out the undissolved solids then reducing down by simmering and then drying the resulting gunk. No chemicals are required in this process.
 
Okay, so I've just blended them into a smoothie (pods and seeds). They weighed ten grams (two of the pods were dry but small).

Is that alright for somebody with no opiate tolerance? :)

They are out of my garden by the way.

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F.U.B.A.R. said:
Eh? The latex collected from the pods technically IS opium. 'Opium' is the collective name for morphine, codeine, thebaine etc. But the raw latex also contains a lot of plant material which needs to be removed to make refined or smoking opium. As the various desired alkaloids are very water soluble, this is done by dissolving the dried latex in hot water (actually not boiling as this can degrade the alkaloids), filtering out the undissolved solids then reducing down by simmering and then drying the resulting gunk. No chemicals are required in this process.
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yeah, we both agree and are saying the same thing i think, we're just misundersatnding each other, the black latex ooze is unquestionablly opium, the pod walls which contain other alkaloids is not, although i believe a conversion process iis possible.
 
Tranced said:
Okay, so I've just blended them into a smoothie (pods and seeds). They weighed ten grams (two of the pods were dry but small).

Is that alright for somebody with no opiate tolerance? :)

They are out of my garden by the way.

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I did this a few years back too, hopefully you have more sunshine than I did though, as I needed a bigger crop up 'north :\ I ended up spewing up a lot, but was quite happy with that :|



Vomiting is horrible mind, really the body does not like it at all..I'm so glad of that as it's kept me from forcing myself into further bodily punishment for the sake of a drug high. Listening to your body and mind really does help if you are interested at all in harm reduction.
 
Anyone who grows pods knows that slitting n smoking is too much effort for little reward tea is more generous
 
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