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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (paliperidone)

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redmanone said:
So youre saying i probably havent given it enough time yet? My ocd is coming back full affect and is also causing me great depression.
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probably need some more time.... trust me one day your going to just feel diffrent and you will notice a significant improvement.... like i said before molly was a godsend for me but it certainly wasnt the only thing that helped me improve? Do you have ps4 or xbox one?
 
redmanone said:
So youre saying i probably havent given it enough time yet? My ocd is coming back full affect and is also causing me great depression.
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Kyliepsychic said:
Has anyone tried cabergoline to treat the increase in prolactin levels caused by Invega? Apparently the cabergoline will restore sexual function immediately but I am skeptical as I have read that cabergoline can cause aggression and psychosis
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ive read that it does indeed help significantly but it also can cause problems with the heart
 
Kyliepsychic said:
Has anyone tried cabergoline to treat the increase in prolactin levels caused by Invega? Apparently the cabergoline will restore sexual function immediately but I am skeptical as I have read that cabergoline can cause aggression and psychosis
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Yes I have for that reason. If you can get it from your doctor do try it I think. It gives the most pleasurable orgasm. The thing with caber or dostinex is that it will make you more edgy due to increased dopamine, but it comes with a warning that 10% of users develop scaring in their hearts. Maybe at low dosages such as two pills a week it is relatively safe. They do last a long time in the body apparantly. Im no doctor however, just saying that it can restore pleasure COMPLETELY. Man it sucks to have sexual anhedonia and anorgasmia from these shitty drugs.
 
mottec said:
Yes I have for that reason. If you can get it from your doctor do try it I think. It gives the most pleasurable orgasm. The thing with caber or dostinex is that it will make you more edgy due to increased dopamine, but it comes with a warning that 10% of users develop scaring in their hearts. Maybe at low dosages such as two pills a week it is relatively safe. They do last a long time in the body apparantly. Im no doctor however, just saying that it can restore pleasure COMPLETELY. Man it sucks to have sexual anhedonia and anorgasmia from these shitty drugs.
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Did it make you aggressive or moody at all
 
Not agressive, if thats your concern, I would just stay of alcohol.

But it did make me more "anxious" "on edge". At that time it didnt cause me to hear voices, so thats good. Perhaps ask your doctor about the safety of it. As I said, Ive read that you only need a small dose two times a week
 
Cabergoline is a potent 5-HT2B agonist with a half life of 65 hours. Till it is cleared out of your system or better said not working anymore it takes around 5 half lifes => it will stay around 13 1/2 days in your system. If you really want to feel an orgasmn than you could try it in the low dose range, but if you are unsure about it I wouldn't recommend it.

"Valvular heart disease
In two studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine on January 4, 2007, cabergoline was implicated along with pergolide in causing valvular heart disease.[12][13] As a result of this, the FDA removed pergolide from the U.S. market on March 29, 2007.[14] Since cabergoline is not approved in the U.S. for Parkinson's Disease, but for hyperprolactinemia, the drug remains on the market. The lower doses required for treatment of hyperprolactinemia have been found to be not associated with clinically significant valvular heart disease or cardiac valve regurgitation.[15][16]"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabergoline
 
Amphetamines won't help you in the long run as people tend to get addicted. Besides that it won't undo the negative effects of your antipsychotics anyway. As long as you take it in moderation it shouldn't be a big deal though.
 
redmanone said:
Symbolicone i tried 30mg adderall last night and felt a little better than normal. Stimulants dont hinder the recovery process right?
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Not for me like i said i had a huge breaktrough after using molly mdma but i was also naturally improving as well... on thing im noticing though now is ritilan at 10mg is effecting my sleep
 
VanzaGloom said:
I started Invega in around May, everything was fine until my doctor bumped it up to 6mg.
Now, I'm restless and cannot sleep, I read some of the things on here and hope it's not all true because then that would mean I am taking something that is "half life."
I hope this will be fixed if I just stop the medicine all together right now with my doctor.
If not, then I will have to suffer like the rest of the other people for who knows how long.
I don't care what my problems are anymore. They are not the problem, the medicine is at the moment and rather be untreated than being tricked into this mind game we call "psychiatry."
I took it for schizophrenia, and my symptoms are not severe at all or at least not yet. Still in the beginning stages.
I couldn't sit still and had erectile dysfunction also, no pleasure, and on top of that this whole "I can't sleep thing" I've always had issues with sleep, but this IS making me stay up more than I have ever. I literally have a belief now that I will "never sleep again" and it's terrifying me and my dad says "it's all in my head" but I know it's not!
I just need help from all of this.
I need to know what to do next.
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To be honest with you, I too mostly had little to none schizophrenia...It was mostly paranoia. My doctor put me on Mirtazepine to treat my depression (which I personally think my depression is treatment-resistant since I have been on pretty much every G0d@mn atypical anti-psychotic medication except Lurasidone. I really did not experience any side-effects from any of the medications except sleepiness, but I will admit I did feel hyper after about an hour after my IM injection. I am honestly paranoid about getting "man-boobs" (Gynecomastia) so they put me on Abilify which I have to say worked AMAZINGLY, and no IM-but my insurance would not cover it so I take Seroquel instead. Try not to let the doctor make all the medication decisions for you. If you feel that your slightly schizoaffective or irrationally paranoid, let them be AWARE of that but don't let make them decide this is your prognosis. Hopes this helps and best of luck. :D
 
Symbolicone, when did things start getting better for you? Im finding it hard to hold on like this.
 
I can't agree with some of the anti-psychiatry sentiments expressed in this thread, there is a very real place for medications.

However, some people are given the wrong stuff at the wrong times.

Medications can be useful, God knows I need mine, and so do the people with whom I work professionally, but sometimes it's time to try something else.

If you're interested in discontinuing yours, indispensable is the Harm Reduction Guide to Coming Off Psychiatric Medications
 
redmanone said:
Yea man, my whole life is derealized. Time passes like the flow of water. Im getting older and its staying the same. Ive been suffering for almost 5 months now. And yes, ive experienced depersonalization too. Im not who i used to be. What were you shot up with and how long ago?
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ive experienced derealization as well and still do.... getting out more is helping with but sometimes i would rather stay inside produce music or play games.... kinda sucks but i dont know how to deal with it sometimes....
 
SKL said:
I can't agree with some of the anti-psychiatry sentiments expressed in this thread, there is a very real place for medications.

However, some people are given the wrong stuff at the wrong times.

Medications can be useful, God knows I need mine, and so do the people with whom I work professionally, but sometimes it's time to try something else.

If you're interested in discontinuing yours, indispensable is the Harm Reduction Guide to Coming Off Psychiatric Medications
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I agree with what your saying im on wellbutrin and ritilan and can see results however doctors mentality and procudure when treating patients needs to improve... my first pdoc prescribed me invega when i told him i deal with mild depression and axiety and i blindly trusted him until i experience the effect of invega and the damage was done smh.... thankfully the second p doctor i went to was more modern and practical and got me right
 
Hey Symbolicone09, do you still have feelings of depersonalization? Do you feel like you were back to where you were before Invega? - When you say depersonalization/derealization is this what you're experiencing:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...ization-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20033401
[h=3]Depersonalization symptoms[/h] Symptoms of depersonalization include:


  • Feelings that you're an outside observer of your thoughts, feelings, your body or parts of your body, perhaps as if you were floating in air above yourself
  • Feeling like a robot or that you're not in control of your speech or movements
  • The sense that your body, legs or arms appear distorted, enlarged or shrunken, or that your head is wrapped in cotton
  • Emotional or physical numbness of your senses or responses to the world around you
  • A sense that your memories lack emotion, and that they may or may not be your own memories
[h=3]Derealization symptoms[/h] Symptoms of derealization include:


  • Feelings of being alienated from or unfamiliar with your surroundings, perhaps like you're living in a movie
  • Feeling emotionally disconnected from people you care about, as if you were separated by a glass wall
  • Surroundings that appear distorted, blurry, colorless, two-dimensional or artificial, or a heightened awareness and clarity of your surroundings
  • Distortions in perception of time, such as recent events feeling like distant past
  • Distortions of distance and the size and shape of objects

http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/32446-dpdr-daily-symptoms/
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  • Visual distortions, ghosting/trailing, floaters, 'blurred vision'
  • pane of glass phenomenon in vision (like I was separated from everything)
  • sensation of loss of self, could not find it, normal self-sense was not there, existential paranoia
  • Extreeeeeeeeme anxiety, paranoia, fear of going insane or losing mind
  • Frame by frame sensation, as if the world were existing in cut-frames and not fluid
  • Forgetting names, normal things, difficulty conceptualizing/abstract or critical thinking
  • This was so frightening, I thought I would never be smart or normal again
  • Tendency to stare at things, knowing I should know what it was, but unable to 'feel' it normally, or think of what it was called
  • This happened with people, places, and things (even people I loved, this was very hard)
  • Extreme sense of sensory detachment from world, self, feelings
  • ZERO short term memory (literally forgetting things seconds after they occurred)
  • No sense of time continuity
  • Constantly becoming aware of symptoms and reacting to them with anxiety/paranoia
  • Constantly fearing I would never be the same again
  • Hating God/Life for making me suffer so extremely
  • Difficulty with coordination and speech
  • Weight loss - I weigh 160 lbs normally, I was down to 120 during the worst...
  • No positive emotions, only anxiety, fear and paranoia
  • Fluorescent Lights felt terrible!
  • Couldn’t drive a car (for some time) because my perception was $%^&*’ed
  • Probably a thousand more….

 
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