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"When Anne-Marie Cockburn expressed her desire for the legalization of street-favorite chemical compound MDMA for an interview with British tabloid The Daily Mail, her reasons were ones that are becoming increasingly voiced. Amongst the wave of anti-prohibition sentiment going on in the world is the push for legalization for safety reasons. There have been calls to legalize MDMA in order to allow for proper regulation and preventing violently unsafe products on the streets.
Many drugs hit the market while mixed with other chemical compounds, and there have been lethal cases reported of people unknowingly taking MDMA laced with *****. Extra chemicals, however is not the main reason for Mrs Cockburn’s plea. Sources say that new batches of MDMA, not cut with other chemicals but highly concentrated in its pure form, are hitting the market. Cockburn’s daughter died after taking a half-gram dose of MDMA that was 91% pure.
Generally, MDMA isn’t sold as a pure substance, and the actual content of a dose of ecstasy measures tends to be about 50% pure MDMA, while the rest is composed of other chemicals. A dose testing at 91% pure MDMA is almost double the purity that is popular and generally taken recreationally, and there have been more reported instances of ecstasy being sold while 84% pure. How can MDMA have such a high pure level and still keep its solid state? We asked a chemistry doctor about the concentration of pure MDMA in a dose, and how high the percentage of purity can go.
Can MDMA exist in over 84% pure form?
Dr. Chaim Yosef Mariategui-Levi, the PhD chemist interviewed for this article, states that MDMA in general can exist in two forms: “ Free base: C11H15N02 MW = 193.25, and the Hydrochloride: C11H16NO2Cl ; MW= 229.70.” Freebase has very high pure levels. The hydrochloride version can hold, in his estimate, 85.62% of freebase’s purity. Accounting for impurities would leave a level of about 84% pure MDMA, which leaves room for the other 16% being the hydrochloride salts. If the HCl content is under 16%, the MDMA compound becomes liquid. In its salt form, he stated, MDMA looks white or off white.
Why does some MDMA come in different colors, like tan or dark brown?
“The different colors are caused by impurities of the product.. The drug in its salt form (hydrochloride) is white or off white.
Would people be able to take liquid MDMA and make into a press pill?
“The free base has solvents and other impurities” Chaim warns, continuing by advising that the oily free base is hard to compress in pill form, though not impossible.
So can the same be said for ***** HCl?
“***** also exists as a free base and the hydrochloride.” Chaim stated, and adds that the hydrochloride is used more in the market because it’s easier to purify and snort in salts form.
Some vendors claim to wash out the impurities. Are the impurities dangerous?
“Only a good chemist can recrystallize the product to purify it.” Chaim said. The process involves producing the free base and then extract with an ether, he added, which can then be reprecipitated with hydrochloric acid. He finished by noting that the impurities could be dangerous, but not always.
"When Anne-Marie Cockburn expressed her desire for the legalization of street-favorite chemical compound MDMA for an interview with British tabloid The Daily Mail, her reasons were ones that are becoming increasingly voiced. Amongst the wave of anti-prohibition sentiment going on in the world is the push for legalization for safety reasons. There have been calls to legalize MDMA in order to allow for proper regulation and preventing violently unsafe products on the streets.
Many drugs hit the market while mixed with other chemical compounds, and there have been lethal cases reported of people unknowingly taking MDMA laced with *****. Extra chemicals, however is not the main reason for Mrs Cockburn’s plea. Sources say that new batches of MDMA, not cut with other chemicals but highly concentrated in its pure form, are hitting the market. Cockburn’s daughter died after taking a half-gram dose of MDMA that was 91% pure.
Generally, MDMA isn’t sold as a pure substance, and the actual content of a dose of ecstasy measures tends to be about 50% pure MDMA, while the rest is composed of other chemicals. A dose testing at 91% pure MDMA is almost double the purity that is popular and generally taken recreationally, and there have been more reported instances of ecstasy being sold while 84% pure. How can MDMA have such a high pure level and still keep its solid state? We asked a chemistry doctor about the concentration of pure MDMA in a dose, and how high the percentage of purity can go.
Can MDMA exist in over 84% pure form?
Dr. Chaim Yosef Mariategui-Levi, the PhD chemist interviewed for this article, states that MDMA in general can exist in two forms: “ Free base: C11H15N02 MW = 193.25, and the Hydrochloride: C11H16NO2Cl ; MW= 229.70.” Freebase has very high pure levels. The hydrochloride version can hold, in his estimate, 85.62% of freebase’s purity. Accounting for impurities would leave a level of about 84% pure MDMA, which leaves room for the other 16% being the hydrochloride salts. If the HCl content is under 16%, the MDMA compound becomes liquid. In its salt form, he stated, MDMA looks white or off white.
Why does some MDMA come in different colors, like tan or dark brown?
“The different colors are caused by impurities of the product.. The drug in its salt form (hydrochloride) is white or off white.
Would people be able to take liquid MDMA and make into a press pill?
“The free base has solvents and other impurities” Chaim warns, continuing by advising that the oily free base is hard to compress in pill form, though not impossible.
So can the same be said for ***** HCl?
“***** also exists as a free base and the hydrochloride.” Chaim stated, and adds that the hydrochloride is used more in the market because it’s easier to purify and snort in salts form.
Some vendors claim to wash out the impurities. Are the impurities dangerous?
“Only a good chemist can recrystallize the product to purify it.” Chaim said. The process involves producing the free base and then extract with an ether, he added, which can then be reprecipitated with hydrochloric acid. He finished by noting that the impurities could be dangerous, but not always.
