CosmicG
Bluelighter
I have done research on both. Why would you say -Pam over -lam.
Too strong at low does, whereas flub is a bit 'weaker' per say, it would be a more viable option as you have much-much more control over your dosages.I have done research on both. Why would you say -Pam over -lam.
Ya, I would go get that checked out man, as you know shooting up needs to be done carefully, and if you were benzod out and got the idea to shoot it, well you probly were not that careful as you thought you were being at the time...Plus its a vile off the internet, you don't know what else could be in there honeslty that could fuck you up...
Yeah the vile smelled like some other solvents besides PC were used.
I went to see my doctor and told him the truth. The swelling had gone down a little but he gave me some antibiotics just to be safe.
God a nice long lecture too.
I have used more benzos than every one of my friends put together, (not bragging here) and 1-2mg of this stuff has me gone. I used Xanax, Valium, klonopin and ativan before. And then I discovered "RC" benzos and bought 90 1mg Etizolam and ate through them in a week. Not my favorite benzo, but cheap. Then I discovered Cloanzolam and bought a vile of the liquid to try. While I was blacked out I ordered 150 pills of it, and 250mg of the pure powder. Don't rember anything.
If I'd had any heroin/opiates lying around I'd proally be dead right now. I feel like an idiot for shooting up fucking c-lam lol.
BTW this stuff is THE MOST addictive, compulsive redosing, and dangerous benzo I have ever experienced DO NOT KEEP LARGE AMMOUNTS AROUND!!!! Be warned. There is next to no pharm info on this drug and I feel the half life has got to be around 20-30 hours. Do not take more than 0.25-.5mg for sleep (or ajusted for tolerance) if you have stuff to do in the morning.
Thanks y'all. I made a doc appt. For Tuesday with my GP. (Who knows of my past drug use) the swelling is about the same, and I think I must have missed the vein. Propoetlyne Glycol is a pretty safe compound, but I still fee more comfortable getting this looked at by a doctor.
Last month, my friend, (no benzo tolerance) took 2 0.5mg Cloanzolam pills and totaled his car, broke his neck and arm, and the cops found a half a joint in his car so he was arrested for that and lost his job.
again, I must warn
DO NOT FUCK WITH TRIAZOLM BENZOS
DO NOT DRINK/DRIVE OF THESS!!!!!
My friend totaled his car and broke his neck, back, and arm. He took 0.750ug of FlubromazEPAM and could have killed us bit
No, your friend did not do any of this. Not from 0.75mg of FlubromazePAM as you insisted in capitalizing for emphasis, probably to differentiate it from flubromazolam. 0.75mg of flubromazepam is inactive, practically. The smallest pills are 4mg, and even people with no tolerance would have trouble finding much of (a very long to kick in too) half of that (the 4mg are scored and actually break in 2 unlike the 8's). Please do not shitpost and invent stories, at least if you do, make them entertaining.
Is flub-pam even active at .750ug? I thought clonazepam was active at .25ug... and flub-pam is much weaker.
I think if you took 10mg of flub-lam or 7.5mg of clonazolam, this is possible....
Last month, my friend, (no benzo tolerance) took 2 0.5mg Cloanzolam pills and totaled his car, broke his neck and arm, and the cops found a half a joint in his car so he was arrested for that and lost his job.
SWIM has extensive experience with both Etiz and F-LAM and spent 7-months clean after w/d's like hell complete with the most incredible hallucinations. SWIM got up for about 20/mg of Etiz and 2.5 to 5 mg of F-LAM per day for 8 months straight after building tolerance for 7 months prior - brief background to clarify experience.
Main reason for posting and creating new account to comment: street cred - moderated several pgp only source boards and admin several pgp only source boards, 1 of which is the most prominent today. Unfortunately SWIM had to distance myself for several years for personal issues. SWIM recently received 100mg/10ml clonazolam in a PG solution and noticed .1/ml is a solid recreational dose to start with after being clean for 7 months. Crucial part here to set rumors straight as SWIM just did this.... .04mg with .2ml of water shaken in regular 1/ml diabetic syringe. Shook contents thoroughly and IV to large vein in crux of arm (make sure it a large vein so NO miss can be done - must not miss). SWIM felt effects with 3min tops and became even more relaxed and sedated although was already under the influence, but SWIM plans on trying again tomorrow morning to confirm its effect as I had already dose 1/ml sublingually.
All things considered, PG works great for IV as long as its balanced with at least 20-units of water in a 1/ml syringe. Shake vigorously to achieve homogenous mixture and make sure to use a large, dependable vein as to not miss... MUST NOT MISS (Makes missing a crack/vinegar shot seem eeeasy). It was successful, no burn and noticeable effects within 3-mins tops. However, SWim will try again tomorrow afternoon as Swim works second shift and can confirm better results after being past the 10/hr half life. Please, please, please respect this compound for its potency as I'm sure you're all aware. But it takes it to a whole lot of conscious and careful planning to make sure not to overdose when using IV or any other ROA for that matter. If you can sublingual/oral SWim recommends that route as SWIM just IV to experiment, save supply and set record straight from the misleading comments on this board.
SWIM has had expensive 15+ year experience in entheogens, pharmacological research, psychedelics, and other "harder" substances and I simply can't stress enough how dangerous these can be. SWIY absolutely must know the proper handling/metric and dosing procedures as well as the tools necessary to accomplish accuracy/practice to ensure you're on-point. It can be extremely dangerous and I'd Never share with anyone aside from my fellow students/lab partners working on the same in vitro research for our upcoming dissertation and masters completion.
Safety and quadruple checking is crucial, please be safe out there ladies and gentlemen. PM me if you have anything questions, or if recognize me from the private/Dark net boards from back in the day when I went by adjudicator... I'd love to catch up (ill try calling when I get a break from clinical studies and treatment of my clients).
Bless you all and stay safe!
PS Edit: Forgot to mention... I suffered from multiple seizures after using large qualities of F-LAM over 1-5 years contiuously and I did suffer atleast 2 grand mal tonic clonic seizures. I was OK and thank goodness I wasn't driving or at work, but with that being said PLEASE be careful with that substance. The seizure rumors are the blunt truth. Mine came from the F-Lam, not the etiz although combining such large quantities of each chem had its own effect/influence. F-LAM has been proven to induce seizures in the past and must be taken in an extreme controlled setting. Please dose accordingly and don't get drawn into re-dosing in such as habitual fashion. Be safe ladies and gentleman and best wishes towards successful research.
2nd Edit: In response to ics432'sost's above... he speaks the truth about potency, but the half life is more like 10 hours for clonazolam. MUST exercise ultimate accurate measurement when performing in vitro research....
-B. G / Adj.
I have done research on both. Why would you say -Pam over -lam.
Thank you for that extremely detailed and intense post. You are literally just the person I am looking for. We both share in common having seizures when coming off benzos (I've had 4 -2 the first time, 2 the second time coming off). I have a Xanax habit now of somewhere around 20mg a day, taken at once, normally in the early evening. I don't get high off them, or even that relaxed feeling I used to get. I am using them now solely so I don't get sick and have seizures. I have tapered down from even further absurd and probably unbelievable doses to most members of upwards of 100mgs a day. So now I am at 20mg a day of xanax in one dose. In your estimation, what would be the equivalency in Clonozolam. I am receiving (hopefully - god I hope hopefully tomorrow because I am extremely low on xanax and money) 300mg of Clonazolam tomorrow in two 150mg per 30mL PG solution. Can you give me an honest estimation on where to start? I've put probably over 50 hours worth of research time into reading stories and accounts of Clonozolam and want to use it to taper off xanax (to avoid seizures, and hopefully not a suicidal withdrawal like the other times). From my research, .5mg Clonazolam can be equal to as little as 1mg Clonazepam or upwards of 4mg of Clonazepam. I am almost begging you on my hands and knees for advice on how to accurately dose this compound. My guess would be to start with 3mg -4mg? Keep in mind last week there were days I was eating 60mg 80mg of xanax and went about my day as usual (work as a bouncer, family life, etc) without anyone noticing anything.
I am really hoping to hear back from you. I do not plan on IVing this, and want to try sublingual first. Your reply is extremely important to me and I do hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart my friend.
I have done research on both. Why would you say -Pam over -lam.
Can't help ya, didn't know some goof decided to sell liquid clonazolam, it's bound to be imprecise, at best.
I get mine from the people who introduced the product, small yellow barrel like caps, thats what you want, or maybe not and your bzd receptors are fried and would benefit from a break, one that would be survivable with a GABA-B drug, GHB, Baclofen, Phenibut...
When you have a habit like mine taking a break is not doable. If I were to stop taking benzos for a day I would lose it . It happened to me before whene I ran out of my klons early. Well now my doctor cut me off my klons abd everything else so Im withdrawling from a SHIT load of stuff., The clonazolam is helping keeping the clonazepam and temazepam withdrawal at bay but not completely alleviating it.
If you ask me, clonazolam feels more like chloral hydrtate than any other benzo. Now Ive had pellets too that were very good and felt theh same as the liquid.
I know the liquid is legit. He just gets a pg solutions and makes it out to .5mg/1ml so that kids dont get their hands on the powder and instantnly od. He even incluses a measuring syringe with it. Sorry about my yypiong I cant see, Im on lyrica ,daxm, suboxoone, clonazolam, , neurontin,
Well this stuff really seems to be causing quite the uproar...
I got some a while ago to comedown from rolling, stims, or something. Haven't had a reason to use in the two months since I've gotten it and from reading all this I'm questioning if I should even keep it around. I find no pleasure from benzos and seems to be real easy to blackout which doesn't interest me at all.
Say I do eventually use this to come down from some kind of stimulant, total benzo novice, .125-.25mg should suffice, yea?
The aggression you mentioned above is normal for some. When I'm on Xanax I'm a huge dick to my girlfriend. The color of your solution interests my as I've had clonazolam from 3 different vendors 2 of which when pre made vials and one 500mg bag of which I have been making my own solution...getting to the point all of the solutions are very yellow instead of clear like every other BZD solution I've come across. So does this one have any significant anti-seizure properties like clonazepam?