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RCs Clonazolam (Clonitrazolam)
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FlawedByDesign
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This ones half life dos quite make it ideal for tapering imo. I've been taking 1.5mgs of this twice a day as a replacement for an onging dependency. I like at little too much so I plan to start a diclazepam taper soon.
FlawedByDesign
Bluelighter
This ones half life does not make it ideal for tapering imo. I've been taking 1.5mgs of this twice a day as a replacement for an onging dependency. I like at little too much so I plan to start a diclazepam taper soon.
Screaming_Skull
Bluelighter
I'm gonna get this very soon I think, I'm tired of paying street prices for Klons and xanax all the time it gets pricey. I gotta be careful beause of my Sub doctor, but my insurance is gonna run out in a few months anyway with it so in a way I'm just like screw it, I can use the alchohol mehtod or if I decide to shoot low dose amounths I cout have enought for another two years...that or just bit the bullet and go on done' since I feel a ful agonist woud help me more than a partial agonist since when I was using Oxys/hydro/Morphine/dilies a never felt a need to get benzo's, athough I woud get like 10 once in a blue moon just to get them....kinda rambling, haven't really had any Oxy in something like 4-6 months and snorted 4 20mg Roxis at 6:30, then shot 60mg at 1030, along with 3mg of klon this morn 3 before work and 2 when I got home( I haven't been taking my subs cept about 800mcg a day the past 4 days getting ready for the litte roxi. Kinda pissed, was suppose to get 12 but only got 7, wanted some for my day off but got pissed and just did them today. Anyway, ya I would like to try this with my subs at .5-1mg a day with my Sub instead of buying off the street..if it was up to me I woud have a few ounces of all the benzo's online just to have,(of course I woudn't take them all, just would be nice to have,lol.
I am extremely interested in hearing more of your personal take on this RC, as we are in the same boat. If there are any major/minor details you think I could benifit from I would be forever grateful. I truly need to stop this madness. I just spent $1,750 on xanaxc in teh past 4 days. It's absolutely absurd! I MUST stop this now!
yepyepwoah
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Are you the guy who made the post a while back about using diclaz to taper from etizolam at like 11mg a day or something?
I take two .5mg etizolam doses throughout the day with 1mg at night usually. I know the doses are extremely low, and I could quit with only minimal discomfort... but I don't want too. I just can't deal with being completely sober right now. Can't smoke, drinking again (been 5 years sober) is something I am getting closer to doing, and that would be a disaster...
Thinking about ordering some clonazapam bc etizolam doesn't last all that long. Taking like a .25mg dose, would it leave me functional the same as etizolam does or what?
Hey guys, I'm new here, and an experienced user with opiates and somewhat with benzos. I'm 19 years old, and hope to have a long life ahead of me.
I was a junky (mainly hydro's and shooting roxies) for ~6 months and then cleaned up. I used benzos at party's and that sort moreso than I'd like to admit.
Recently a friend introduced me to RC benzos and I received a vile of 30mg Cloanzolam dissolved in 30ml of propylene glycol. The solution had a strange solvent smell to it, but I drew up a ml and mixed it in a red bull. Drank the 1MG over about 30min and bengan to feel calm, happy, and relaxed. But not quite where I wanted to be. Took another 1mg, and blacked out.
Now here's where it gets scary. I woke up with a half ful boody insulin needle, belt loose on my arm, and a dose or 2 missing from the bottle. I can see where I shot up, and it looks like I hit the vein, but its incredibly swolen and slightly tender. I'm worried of the safty of injecting PG? I have never injected benzos before but new they should be IVable in a correct PC and water mix. Am I ok, if I injected 2ml of undiluted PG and I'm somewhat worried.
Word of advice, dont fuck with stupid potent triazol benzos unless you read up 100% before doing so and never inject them. This C-lam is still affecting me almost 24 hours later and I had to call out of work cause I can barely walk straight.
I was a junky (mainly hydro's and shooting roxies) for ~6 months and then cleaned up. I used benzos at party's and that sort moreso than I'd like to admit.
Recently a friend introduced me to RC benzos and I received a vile of 30mg Cloanzolam dissolved in 30ml of propylene glycol. The solution had a strange solvent smell to it, but I drew up a ml and mixed it in a red bull. Drank the 1MG over about 30min and bengan to feel calm, happy, and relaxed. But not quite where I wanted to be. Took another 1mg, and blacked out.
Now here's where it gets scary. I woke up with a half ful boody insulin needle, belt loose on my arm, and a dose or 2 missing from the bottle. I can see where I shot up, and it looks like I hit the vein, but its incredibly swolen and slightly tender. I'm worried of the safty of injecting PG? I have never injected benzos before but new they should be IVable in a correct PC and water mix. Am I ok, if I injected 2ml of undiluted PG and I'm somewhat worried.
Word of advice, dont fuck with stupid potent triazol benzos unless you read up 100% before doing so and never inject them. This C-lam is still affecting me almost 24 hours later and I had to call out of work cause I can barely walk straight.
Screaming_Skull
Bluelighter
Ya, I would go get that checked out man, as you know shooting up needs to be done carefully, and if you were benzod out and got the idea to shoot it, well you probly were not that careful as you thought you were being at the time...Plus its a vile off the internet, you don't know what else could be in there honeslty that could fuck you up...
speedballs_over
Bluelighter
Hopefully, this will apply to any of the bacterium you may have had when you"missed";
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1675525
PG is a pretty good antimicrobial in lab studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1675525
PG is a pretty good antimicrobial in lab studies
RivieraLife
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I'd go get checked out if I were you - cause it's swollen and tender, really, and cause I've only ever read about people injecting a PG/water mix. Better to be a little embarrassed and make sure nothing is wrong than for something dreadful to happen man. Stay safe.
Clonazolam imho would be absolutely awful as a tapering drug, it's ridiculously euphoric. 1 month into what was a very long etizolam addiction and they were ruined for me. 1 month taking Clonazolam and they were very nearly as good as the first time I took them (1mg of Clonazolam had me absolutely flying at a time when 10mg+ etizolam didn't even touch the sides, go figure)
They're pretty much the perfect example of a recreational benzo in my opinion - way more fun than any other I've ever tried. Which is exactly what makes them dangerous to do more than a couple times a month, max! Fortunately I've been off them for a good couple of months now, go me ^-^
Clonazolam imho would be absolutely awful as a tapering drug, it's ridiculously euphoric. 1 month into what was a very long etizolam addiction and they were ruined for me. 1 month taking Clonazolam and they were very nearly as good as the first time I took them (1mg of Clonazolam had me absolutely flying at a time when 10mg+ etizolam didn't even touch the sides, go figure)
They're pretty much the perfect example of a recreational benzo in my opinion - way more fun than any other I've ever tried. Which is exactly what makes them dangerous to do more than a couple times a month, max! Fortunately I've been off them for a good couple of months now, go me ^-^
ALossFourWords
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Been lurking on and off over the years. Bluelight is definitely the bible of anecdotal substance use. I feel compelled to thank you all off the bat for building this place, and I feel bad for my first post being not a contribution, but a question for my own personal benefit. So yeah, I'm acknowledging and apologizing for the selfishness right now.
With that said, A friend has dabbled with benzos, namely alprazolam on and off over the years. Never taken any for more than 15 consecutive days, though that 15 day experience with (2-4mg/day) alprazolam left him feeling pretty shitty for the three days after his last dose. Nothing life ruining, no fear of seizures, just really anxious and a bit detached. It passed.
So, this buddy of mine has tried etizolam for a few consecutive days but wasn't entirely enthralled. Clonazolam turned up and seemed to provide much more in what my bud was looking for. One .5mg does the trick for the whole day, taken at about noon or so in two .25 doses. he wakes up feeling very rested, clear headed, and his dexterous job goes as smoothly as it ever does. I realize this could be attributed the afterglow effect, but he honestly feel much more normal the next morning as opposed to still lightly buzzed or euphoric. Normal is the best word for it. It has been about 4 consecutive days since use began. He's tried sticking it out from a morning dose, waiting until late afternoon to take my next to see if he feels any WDs but nothing happens beyond mild irritability and a little extra dose of manageable anxiety. He plans on take a solid 24-48 hrs off on Monday and Tuesday to see what happens with a few days worth of downtime.
I'm asking primarily because most subjective encounters with similar situations come from people with a long list of added substances in the mix, and so I'm reluctant to take them at face value with that in mind. I'm looking to hear from folks who are not already in neck deep, or people who were in a similar situation but wound up buried by this shit. The long and short of it is, I've been unable to find anecdotes pertaining to isolated use of C-lam in small doses over shorter periods of time. I'm happy to be referred to any links and such, and I do realize that is has been briefly covered, at least in part, by members here. I'm simply looking for pretty specific, responsible opinions on the matter. I want to know opinions on safe, light, semi regular use of the substance, if it's at all possible, and what intervals at which I should break up consecutive use.
I will add that I have no other substance abuse habits save for weed to help me sleep. No alcohol, no nothing. very active, in good shape, etc.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kind folks. And yes, I've ready EVERY post on this thread, twice.
With that said, A friend has dabbled with benzos, namely alprazolam on and off over the years. Never taken any for more than 15 consecutive days, though that 15 day experience with (2-4mg/day) alprazolam left him feeling pretty shitty for the three days after his last dose. Nothing life ruining, no fear of seizures, just really anxious and a bit detached. It passed.
So, this buddy of mine has tried etizolam for a few consecutive days but wasn't entirely enthralled. Clonazolam turned up and seemed to provide much more in what my bud was looking for. One .5mg does the trick for the whole day, taken at about noon or so in two .25 doses. he wakes up feeling very rested, clear headed, and his dexterous job goes as smoothly as it ever does. I realize this could be attributed the afterglow effect, but he honestly feel much more normal the next morning as opposed to still lightly buzzed or euphoric. Normal is the best word for it. It has been about 4 consecutive days since use began. He's tried sticking it out from a morning dose, waiting until late afternoon to take my next to see if he feels any WDs but nothing happens beyond mild irritability and a little extra dose of manageable anxiety. He plans on take a solid 24-48 hrs off on Monday and Tuesday to see what happens with a few days worth of downtime.
I'm asking primarily because most subjective encounters with similar situations come from people with a long list of added substances in the mix, and so I'm reluctant to take them at face value with that in mind. I'm looking to hear from folks who are not already in neck deep, or people who were in a similar situation but wound up buried by this shit. The long and short of it is, I've been unable to find anecdotes pertaining to isolated use of C-lam in small doses over shorter periods of time. I'm happy to be referred to any links and such, and I do realize that is has been briefly covered, at least in part, by members here. I'm simply looking for pretty specific, responsible opinions on the matter. I want to know opinions on safe, light, semi regular use of the substance, if it's at all possible, and what intervals at which I should break up consecutive use.
I will add that I have no other substance abuse habits save for weed to help me sleep. No alcohol, no nothing. very active, in good shape, etc.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kind folks. And yes, I've ready EVERY post on this thread, twice.
Thanks y'all. I made a doc appt. For Tuesday with my GP. (Who knows of my past drug use) the swelling is about the same, and I think I must have missed the vein. Propoetlyne Glycol is a pretty safe compound, but I still fee more comfortable getting this looked at by a doctor.
Last month, my friend, (no benzo tolerance) took 2 0.5mg Cloanzolam pills and totaled his car, broke his neck and arm, and the cops found a half a joint in his car so he was arrested for that and lost his job.
again, I must warn
DO NOT FUCK WITH TRIAZOLM BENZOS
DO NOT DRINK/DRIVE OF THESS!!!!!
My friend totaled his car and broke his neck, back, and arm. He took 0.750ug of FlubromazEPAM and could have killed us bit
Last month, my friend, (no benzo tolerance) took 2 0.5mg Cloanzolam pills and totaled his car, broke his neck and arm, and the cops found a half a joint in his car so he was arrested for that and lost his job.
again, I must warn
DO NOT FUCK WITH TRIAZOLM BENZOS
DO NOT DRINK/DRIVE OF THESS!!!!!
My friend totaled his car and broke his neck, back, and arm. He took 0.750ug of FlubromazEPAM and could have killed us bit
CosmicG
Bluelighter
This is insanely powerful stuff taken sublingual. Who in their rIght mind
mind would want to shoot this, without a death wish of some sort.
Too much euphoria
mind would want to shoot this, without a death wish of some sort.
Too much euphoria
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adder
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I don't think any triazolobenzodiazepine could possibly be suitable for tapering. I can imagine clonazolam may have a half-life similar to alprazolam (~12 hours at most). Compare with triazolam which is very short-acting and compare 2'-chlorobenzodiazepines with their non-chlorinated counterparts. The 7-aminoclonazolam metabolite shouldn't have a longer half-life either.
I'm actually quite interested in clonazolam's effects, I always wondered how it would feel when I was still taking clonazepam but now that I'm off benzos for almost 2 years, I don't think anything might be worth ruining it. 8)
I'm actually quite interested in clonazolam's effects, I always wondered how it would feel when I was still taking clonazepam but now that I'm off benzos for almost 2 years, I don't think anything might be worth ruining it. 8)
CosmicG
Bluelighter
I was under the impression that clonozolam had a much longer half-life than Alprazolam..
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
Well, might as well have a coke habit, would be less costly...8(
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
And it does, something like 6-8 hours.
Adder : Xanax half life isn't 12 hours, 4 hours later and it's out of your body a la Temazepam.
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Yea, the euphoria and "Don't give a fuck" mind set is strong.
Every time I took it, I'm like damn... guess I have a tolerance all the sudden? (and I shit you not) --BOOOM-- euphoria just slams you right in the face and a big ass grin pops up on your face because it's too much for you to handle
then progressively, the black out slowly sets in (sometimes).
Every time I took it, I'm like damn... guess I have a tolerance all the sudden? (and I shit you not) --BOOOM-- euphoria just slams you right in the face and a big ass grin pops up on your face because it's too much for you to handle
then progressively, the black out slowly sets in (sometimes).
CosmicG
Bluelighter
So most stand to agree Clonozolam is shitty for tapering. What about flubromozolam? I got some of that too but have only been messing with the Clonozolam. I was trying to use it to taper but yeah, too much recreation.
Try flubromazepam. not -lam.