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Anyone feel like they couldn't go back to life as it was before after taking X

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Just wondered if anyone has had any "magical" life changing rolls.

I feel I hugely underestimated the drug and in some ways wish I didn't take it as I was plodding along fine before and thought I was happy and in love with my partner but since taking X it seems superficial and brought to the forefront a lot that was wrong with the relationship which deep down I guess I knew but chose to ignore in the hope that things would get better.

I did have a bonding experience with a guy I had a one on one roll with but know nothing can become of it and will not roll again with someone I don't know very well as the whole bonding this is/was quite scary as I don't know where those feelings came from. I don't believe it is him but the drug that has made me look at things totally different. I wish I could go back to "loving" my now ex-boyfriend but I can't.

It's all weird!
 
Why do you wish you could back to ignoring an obvious problem you were having with your ex? It would have came to a head one way or another...E didn't create this problem your now facing...maybe it just brought it to your attention.
 
After a true mdma experience a person will never be the same. Whether its for the good, the bad or both, its going to have a bold impact on your life with everlasting effects. Ive been threw all too much with mdma+life.

Mdma must not be underestimated, its a POWERFUL GIFT.

I have to add that mdma can sometimes play dirter tricks on our feelings. Ive been threw mdma love drama before. We live and we learn.
 
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Why do you wish you could back to ignoring an obvious problem you were having with your ex? It would have came to a head one way or another...E didn't create this problem your now facing...maybe it just brought it to your attention.

I guess I feel it would make things easier, but obviously won't in the long-term. I guess I can't believe me taking one trip can change my feelings so dramatically so I keep thinking that maybe I'm just losing the plot. Also I am wondering if I am just chasing after a feeling of "love" I had while rolling which in reality may never happen.

Thank you for your reply.
 
After a true mdma experience a person will never be the same. Whether its for the good, the bad or both, its going to have a bold impact on your life with everlasting effects. Ive been threw all too much with mdma+life.

Mdma must not be underestimated, its a POWERFUL GIFT.

I have to add that mdma can sometimes play dirter tricks on our feelings. Ive been threw mdma love drama before. We live and we learn.

Yes, it has indeed, after one night of rolling and life seems to have changed significantly.

This is what I am worried about, that maybe I am not thinking straight. How can one trip make such a huge impact on my relationship. Obviously there were problems before but ...

Some people maybe just roll and not reflect or have "magical" experiences.
 
The magic is always there in the beginning. It's more than just the novelty, but that's part of it. Ime, I would love to get that magical roll back, and I'm actually going to try some methods to see if I can get it back.

Personally, and in all honesty, I'm already a happy and loving person with a lot of good things ahead of me, along with a great significant other. A substances "magical" high/empathy/wow factor isn't really necessary for me, or even up there on my list of priorities. The real important things in life matter much more, aka the "things we need to do" and especially the people around me that I care about. For me, this is all fun and recreation with a side of personal and spiritual benefits, and that's it. Plus, I have a feeling this goes for the majority of BL as well. It's clearly not as important as our next job, career, or major life change, but it's definitely a passion. :)

But I bring up my personal viewpoint because it seems like you are putting too much stock into that one mdma trip. I hate to sound like a sexist, but I'm assuming you're a girl and generally girls think more, and are more emotional by nature. An mdma trip can definitely supplement a relationship in a positive manner, but it can do the opposite as well. Which I have seen before, but as you get use to its effects and prepare yourself mentally, you'll be able to curb the tendency to let mdma's effects influence your emotions too hard. But what do you want out of your mdma trips? You as a person will be much more of a factor in how your mdma experiences will go, but you have control of that for the most part. You can use the epiphanies you gained from this experience and use it for the better. Mdma tends to have that effect if the person is determined to make improvements in whatever area they want. And that's something anyone can change, sometimes even in an instant, if they want to.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I am surprised about the general negativity, emo status and overall cynical nature of the current generation of teens/20 somethings. This is a hugely broad statement, but it's something I've observed for a while, including among once close friends who should now be in their mid to late 20's. This is in comparison to the generation I grew up in. I was once a really negative person because I was going through so much, but literally everyone around me was full of hope, positivity, and purposely chose to concentrate on the good instead of the bad. This was in my teens and it's still stuck with me today. But this discrepancy seems to be a product of our society changing for the worse during the 2000's, not coincidentally along with the economy, and with even the internet being one of the prime reasons. There is so much hate and negativity, and they heavily outweigh anything positive. Before the rise of the Internet and social media, it wasn't like this for sure. People would think twice about saying something in person, but in the virtual world people will say anything. I think if I grew up in that kind of environment, I wouldn't be the positive person I am today.

Anyway, this is just how I see it. Only you can make the judgment of what's the next best step in your relationship with your SO. If anything, mdma is best used with the intention of positive changes. It's actually not the easiest thing in the world, but it can be done. (The only time it's easy is if you're in the right mindset for it). There are currently trials being done by MAPS to study its potential benefits for people suffering with ptsd. What this says to me is that there is a strong belief that it can be used to overcome very difficult personal problems, so with that in mind mdma can be a powerful tool (like said above) to help change your life for the better. It certainly has for myself and many others, so it can for you too. :) Just know that everyone can reach that if they want to. Mdma isn't life; it's just a really enjoyable, unique substance that can be used for fun and healing with the right set and settings.
 
Hate to tell you, but you're going to have to go back to life without MDMA sooner or later.
 
Hate to tell you, but you're going to have to go back to life without MDMA sooner or later.

I have got back to life without it. I only took it once and it was nearly two months ago. Just trying to work out my feelings since and the effect it has had
 
The magic is always there in the beginning. It's more than just the novelty, but that's part of it. Ime, I would love to get that magical roll back, and I'm actually going to try some methods to see if I can get it back.

Personally, and in all honesty, I'm already a happy and loving person with a lot of good things ahead of me, along with a great significant other. A substances "magical" high/empathy/wow factor isn't really necessary for me, or even up there on my list of priorities. The real important things in life matter much more, aka the "things we need to do" and especially the people around me that I care about. For me, this is all fun and recreation with a side of personal and spiritual benefits, and that's it. Plus, I have a feeling this goes for the majority of BL as well. It's clearly not as important as our next job, career, or major life change, but it's definitely a passion.


Yeah, that’s the thing, I am a loving person and I thought I was happy with my SO and have had good things happening for me. I wasnt looking for a “magical” high off the X, didnt even know there was such a thing to be honest. I just happened to have experienced that and it seems to have brought about a change in me and my outlook on life. Was just fun and recreation also but being a fairly deep it does seem to have brought a side of personal and spiritual benefits.
Maybe as you say I am putting too much stock into one MDMA trip, I guess that is the reason for my post, to see if others have felt this way or their viewpoint on it. Yes, I am a lady. Like a previous post said, there were issues in the relationship but probably thought they could be overlooked or I chose to ignore and they have now come to the forefront.
If I was to do X again I will be more prepared of what to expect. My first just seems to have made a huge impact. Yes, I guess it is difficult making the change but I know deep down I need to but I seem forced to make a change and I feel I wasnt quite ready but have to face reality.
Indeed.
Thank you for your reply.
 
The magic is always there in the beginning. It's more than just the novelty, but that's part of it. Ime, I would love to get that magical roll back, and I'm actually going to try some methods to see if I can get it back.

Personally, and in all honesty, I'm already a happy and loving person with a lot of good things ahead of me, along with a great significant other. A substances "magical" high/empathy/wow factor isn't really necessary for me, or even up there on my list of priorities. The real important things in life matter much more, aka the "things we need to do" and especially the people around me that I care about. For me, this is all fun and recreation with a side of personal and spiritual benefits, and that's it. Plus, I have a feeling this goes for the majority of BL as well. It's clearly not as important as our next job, career, or major life change, but it's definitely a passion. :)

But I bring up my personal viewpoint because it seems like you are putting too much stock into that one mdma trip. I hate to sound like a sexist, but I'm assuming you're a girl and generally girls think more, and are more emotional by nature. An mdma trip can definitely supplement a relationship in a positive manner, but it can do the opposite as well. Which I have seen before, but as you get use to its effects and prepare yourself mentally, you'll be able to curb the tendency to let mdma's effects influence your emotions too hard. But what do you want out of your mdma trips? You as a person will be much more of a factor in how your mdma experiences will go, but you have control of that for the most part. You can use the epiphanies you gained from this experience and use it for the better. Mdma tends to have that effect if the person is determined to make improvements in whatever area they want. And that's something anyone can change, sometimes even in an instant, if they want to.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I am surprised about the general negativity, emo status and overall cynical nature of the current generation of teens/20 somethings. This is a hugely broad statement, but it's something I've observed for a while, including among once close friends who should now be in their mid to late 20's. This is in comparison to the generation I grew up in. I was once a really negative person because I was going through so much, but literally everyone around me was full of hope, positivity, and purposely chose to concentrate on the good instead of the bad. This was in my teens and it's still stuck with me today. But this discrepancy seems to be a product of our society changing for the worse during the 2000's, not coincidentally along with the economy, and with even the internet being one of the prime reasons. There is so much hate and negativity, and they heavily outweigh anything positive. Before the rise of the Internet and social media, it wasn't like this for sure. People would think twice about saying something in person, but in the virtual world people will say anything. I think if I grew up in that kind of environment, I wouldn't be the positive person I am today.

Anyway, this is just how I see it. Only you can make the judgment of what's the next best step in your relationship with your SO. If anything, mdma is best used with the intention of positive changes. It's actually not the easiest thing in the world, but it can be done. (The only time it's easy is if you're in the right mindset for it). There are currently trials being done by MAPS to study its potential benefits for people suffering with ptsd. What this says to me is that there is a strong belief that it can be used to overcome very difficult personal problems, so with that in mind mdma can be a powerful tool (like said above) to help change your life for the better. It certainly has for myself and many others, so it can for you too. :) Just know that everyone can reach that if they want to. Mdma isn't life; it's just a really enjoyable, unique substance that can be used for fun and healing with the right set and settings.


The magic is always there in the beginning. It's more than just the novelty, but that's part of it. Ime, I would love to get that magical roll back, and I'm actually going to try some methods to see if I can get it back.

Personally, and in all honesty, I'm already a happy and loving person with a lot of good things ahead of me, along with a great significant other. A substances "magical" high/empathy/wow factor isn't really necessary for me, or even up there on my list of priorities. The real important things in life matter much more, aka the "things we need to do" and especially the people around me that I care about. For me, this is all fun and recreation with a side of personal and spiritual benefits, and that's it. Plus, I have a feeling this goes for the majority of BL as well. It's clearly not as important as our next job, career, or major life change, but it's definitely a passion.


Yeah, that’s the thing, I am a loving person and I thought I was happy with my SO and have had good things happening for me. I wasnt looking for a “magical” high off the X, didnt even know there was such a thing to be honest. I just happened to have experienced that and it seems to have brought about a change in me and my outlook on life. Was just fun and recreation also but being a fairly deep it does seem to have brought a side of personal and spiritual benefits.
Maybe as you say I am putting too much stock into one MDMA trip, I guess that is the reason for my post, to see if others have felt this way or their viewpoint on it. Yes, I am a lady. Like a previous post said, there were issues in the relationship but probably thought they could be overlooked or I chose to ignore and they have now come to the forefront.
If I was to do X again I will be more prepared of what to expect. My first just seems to have made a huge impact. Yes, I guess it is difficult making the change but I know deep down I need to but I seem forced to make a change and I feel I wasnt quite ready but have to face reality.
Indeed.
Thank you for your reply.
 
That's great, and you're welcome. There will always be challenges ahead for all of us, but with the right mindset and attitude, they can be overcome. :)

Relationships are such a fickle thing. I'm in my third serious relationship, and it's a never ending challenge to get everything right. But once we got the foundation started and then sorted out the little things, it's been pretty smooth so far overall. I've been with my SO for over 5 and a half years, but we were friends for about 2 years before that. Even with that, we'll have our problems here and there, but we've always been able to work things out to our liking. It just takes effort, patience and showing care for one another. It's broad and those things have tons of connotations, but ime they solve everything and they will be different from one couple to the next anyway. Lots of people around us don't really understand how we've been able to keep things good between us for so long, since neither of us talk much about these things or its intricacies, but this is basically all that we're doing. Turning complicated situations around with simple solutions is really the key. Everyone is comfortable with simplicity. :)

I hope you get things sorted out with your SO. Good luck.
 
I feel empathogeons are just a tool to enhance communication between couples. they can really help bring out fears and to face them more open and honestly.

while I do love how an empathogeon makes me feel, I know better that this are meant to be used few and far between and its true you dont need drugs to have a good-time.
That said they are useful to use to enhance communication , face your on fears, and come up with simple solutions to problems
 
Documentary called ecstasy rising is the best for the subject of x being a tool for life, communication, and positivity. It shows couples fixing issues with eachother and a lady who had cancer and took e one time and it help her accept the cancer and delete sadness and plenty of other examples.
 
Documentary called ecstasy rising is the best for the subject of x being a tool for life, communication, and positivity. It shows couples fixing issues with eachother and a lady who had cancer and took e one time and it help her accept the cancer and delete sadness and plenty of other examples.

Thank you turnupboss, sounds interesting and good to know how it has changed/effects on other people's life after just one experience and that I am not a complete but job lol!
 
Hell yeah ive watched every mdma related documentary i could find they are good information tools that reading doesnt compare to. I read, watch and study everything possible about a drug before consuming for best results.
 
In regards to the general negativity of younger people, personally I find it hard not to be negative; look at the world around you. Everything we do shits on our environment, every electronic we enjoy is enjoyed on the tears of poor people on the other side of the world. The world is already irrevocably fucked, we're not really doing much to stop it, my generation will be one of the last the enjoy the planet as it is. Global warming is real and it's not a fuckin joke. We fucked ourselves and we're not doing much to stop it. I don't even need to touch on war, genocide, politics, ect. Shit is negative.
 
I felt like this at first. My first roll was unbelievably blissful--certainly a life-changing experience. And it was without a doubt one of the best experiences of my life. But I was gravely disappointed when I learned I just couldn't get back to that blissful spot again, no matter how much I took. I kept chasing a high I knew I wouldn't achieve. That was when I really started feeling depressed. Low serotonin levels, insane nostalgia from my first roll, and an inability to enjoy life again led me to a dark state of mind for a while. I didn't think I'd ever be happy again. How could I after the most incredible thing I experienced was on a drug I can't get much of an effect from anymore?

Well, I just decided one day to say fuck it and move on. I haven't used MDxx since then (that was nearly 3 years ago now), and my quality of life has sort of fixed itself. These days I don't even bother with using MDMA since I don't feel like going back to that dark state of mind I'm sure I'd be vulnerable to if were I to do it again. LSD and other psychedelics have largely replaced MDxx for me. They provide deeper experiences while creating the same kind of euphoria (only more natural & a higher sense of awe/wonder). Not to mention I always feel great for weeks after a great trip, whereas MDMA always left me feeling regretful and down afterwards.

I guess at some point, I realized MDMA is not the greatest thing in the world. It's a facade of happiness really. There are better things in life than rolling. Taking a long, long break from the drug is honestly the best (only..) way to let your brain return to stasis.

And this is, of course, just my personal opinion. YMMV.
 
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In regards to the general negativity of younger people, personally I find it hard not to be negative; look at the world around you. Everything we do shits on our environment, every electronic we enjoy is enjoyed on the tears of poor people on the other side of the world. The world is already irrevocably fucked, we're not really doing much to stop it, my generation will be one of the last the enjoy the planet as it is. Global warming is real and it's not a fuckin joke. We fucked ourselves and we're not doing much to stop it. I don't even need to touch on war, genocide, politics, ect. Shit is negative.

As true as this actually is, it's still the glass half empty approach. I do agree that everything is ultimately fucked; but it's an extremist's point of view. Yeah, humans ravaged this planet and with our way of living now, there's pretty much no turning back because of the unwillingness of every country to work together for the same cause. Of course, global warming is a part of that. On top of that, from an astronomist's point of view, the sun is going to burn out anyway and life will be gone.

Tbh though, the world has actually changed for the better in comparison to our history. Civil rights were horrendous even just 100 years ago. Starvation was the norm in many more countries. Women and kids died as a result of constant wars, brought by egotistical leaders deciding to kill others for their land and ideological bullshit. Technology was nil, especially on the medical front. People generally didn't live that long. So none of us will ever have it as bad as our ancestors, that's for sure.

I do look at the world around me, and obviously I see all of that too, but I also see hope and the faint bits of light brought by people who are trying to make a difference. Our quality of living has gone way up and practically all of us have luxuries that people just a century ago never even dreamed of. Everyone, including myself, takes many things for granted. It's a dichotomy, since of course this is the glass half full approach. :)

In regards to my first paragraph and your post, we aren't really affected that directly and we won't live to see the devastating results of our cumulative actions in our lifetime. I'm not saying that it doesn't matter because of that, but it's hard to see how someone can be that negative given the lack of control in the first place. It's almost like being upset because we can't fly to reduce carbon monoxide, or something like that.

I understand depression and the negative states that people can get into. If people knew me 15 years ago, there would be nothing anyone can say that would make me feel better. About anything. I didn't even have anyone I could relate to or talk to my problems about. Whenever I did, people would be flustered and just feel "sorry for me," which didn't do shit. I had never gotten a single piece of advice that worked, so I never bothered looking up to anyone or expecting any help. And no, I never looked up to myself either, because that just sounds like a load of crap. But because of that, I learned what a waste of time sulking was and how it really brings about nothing. People seem to think it's because I'm older now that I have this viewpoint, but I've looked at it this way since I was 19. Around 21-22 I'm pretty sure I hit a wall and I'm probably not any more mature than I was back then.

People just need to let go, move on and be free from that shit. To be stressed out, negative and depressed is to be NOT free. =D
 
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