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Should I use heroin?

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Its hard to take this seriously but it is as one user eloquently put "It is from that experience you speak of that we can only ever answer no" this escalated quickly http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/47-The-Dark- have a great support network, but seriously it's just, not, worth it! Have a puff of a joint, put some music on. Ask yourself what you are asking us, what advice would you give?
 
Bambooshoot said:
Its hard to take this seriously but it is as one user eloquently put "It is from that experience you speak of that we can only ever answer no" this escalated quickly http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/47-The-Dark- have a great support network, but seriously it's just, not, worth it! Have a puff of a joint, put some music on. Ask yourself what you are asking us, what advice would you give?
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Thanks for the advice, weed usually is not enough for me, but I'll try to think about my life and the options on getting help.
 
drugsarecool said:
Should I just try snorting or smoking it and see how it is before I get myself in over my head? Like if I'm gonna do it I probably shouldn't start with IV use?
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If your gonna do opiates start with prescription pills please. Heroin is nasty shit at least you know what your getting with pills.

On the college thing. I "dropped out" of high school when I was charged with accessory to homicide. Im now working on getting my prerequisites for my bachelor of science. Luckily I was your age when I was convicted and inside I realized I would be dead if things didn't change for me. I got my GED and applied for college albeit a bit late. My parents are pieces of shit but I also realized that's not my fault and I can't fix it and decided to move on with my life. Take it for what you will but it's just my 2c.
 
I don't get the fuzz being made about this substance. Some people seem to be more vulnerable to opioide addiction than others. I use it a few times a year (no iV though), mostly in combination with some upper and I never got any cravings or anything. I also binged a few times on it for a few days (week max) and never shed a tear when it was gone.
IMHO the crappier your life is, the more you will enjoy this substance. It's an excellent "get me outta here"-thing that makes you indifferent towards basically everything.
For me it's also excellent against harsh stim comedowns or bad trips, I use it more like a tool than a drug. (this is neither safe use nor a recommendation as you know)
If you have self control and only want to know how it's like, go for it (with all necessary precautions and information you need ofc) - if you tend to fiend on other substances, especially downers, don't. If you do, don't do it alone, know what you do and only get a small amount (a point is more than enough to satisfy curiosity).
 
I started using it when i was your age. For all the same reasons. I was just an embarrasment to my dad and he was an abusive alcoholic, blah blah blah. I dropped out of school at 16 too, and moved in with my boyfriend. Few months later, he moved out of state and left me homeless. I ended up couch hopping an hour and a half away from my hometown in a place i didnt know existed before, with people id never met before. then I was selling to keep myself from just not being sick, i wasnt getting high anymore - at a point, you just get "normal". Believe me, you dont want that sickness. I got locked up for felony distribution at 20 yr olds, with 5yrs of prison time over my head. Thankfully i didnt have to serve it all. Im not going to type out my entire life story because its no different from anyone elses youll find on this site. And i believe it doesnt matter what anyone says to you right now, youll do what you want. But if you think life sucks right now, if you go down that path...well, youll care then.

I will tell you that heroin is a great escape from life, but once you use dope as an escape, you will not easily, if ever, be able to escape that dope. You need to skip that shit and go straight to helping yourself the right way, for the real problem - Take it upon yourself to get the help you need for your depression. I have major depression and i self medicated with dope and now guess what? My depression is worse than ever, was before while using, and is even worse now that im clean. Dope will damage you in ways you wouldnt think - check it out for yourself. I wish i had someone back then to tell me what i was about to do to myself.
You can get your own help, forget your parents...Go do it yourself! Go to your school and get those rescources. Go to your local clinic, or county building...I know youre only 16 and it feels like the end of the world but its really not. Im 27 now and i just finally got "clean" - stuck on suboxones still though and its not any better. Go read some stories on this site...maybe one of them will scare you enough.
 
I feel like heroin should only be used by smart/intelligent people who have self-control and a well maintained state of mental strength to be able to recreationally use any drug he or she decides and not let the drug get in their head and hook them. I do heroin occasionally about once every couple months. Whenever its around I guess, which is not a whole lot. I can access it but I never waste my time or money seeking it. Same goes for meth and anything else. Yeah I'm a stoner and I smoke weed everyday and dab everyday that's my vice.

As for you and your situation and what you are feeling emotionally, I wouldn't do it. I can say that after years and years of doing stupid things using drugs as a temporary crutch. It only gets worse after that. Just saying. Wait til you are older and in a more stable and positive spot in your life. Maybe reconsider it then as a recreational good time but be able to not want it all the time and cut the craving as soon as it starts.
 
The post encouraging suicide has been removed and the person who posted it dealt with accordingly. There will be zero tolerance for anyone encouraging self harm, this is a harm reduction forum.
 
to the OP: i posted a question like yours on this forum about two years ago. now i'm a regular poster over on the "getting clean" thread, as i try to kick this fucking habit. that doesn't make me an expert or anything, just a fellow traveller.

a couple thoughts that i hope will help you.
0. please find a way to get help with your depression. is there anyone at school (a teacher or something) who you trust enough to talk to about it? i tried to kill myself at 16 but a teacher helped me get to a psychiatrist and now i'm very glad i didn't succeed. you have TONS to live for, you just haven't found all of it yet.

1. folks on this thread are absolutely right that heroin is glamorized all out of proportion. from an experiential standpoint, a heroin high isn't going to get you a lot more oblivion than you can get from enough of most any other substance. in other words, you can get fucked up enough to forget things on almost any substance, including many that are less nasty than H. i can get almost as blasted on some top-notch shatter as i do on street dope. of course they're not the same: but if oblivion is your goal, you can find that in less harmful places.

2. if you *are* going to do heroin (and given how i've seen similar threads go, you probably will), i strongly recommend that you don't IV it. sounds from an earlier post like you're in the chicago area. if that's true, any H you get will probably be so-called #4, which means you can snort it or smoke it (or plug it). injecting is awful for several reasons:
a) much less latitude for dosage errors, especially for someone without a tolerance. in other words, super easy to OD.
b) awful for your body. missed shots, dirty rigs, damaged veins, cotton fever. fuck that. basically, by injecting, you're circumventing every natural protection that your body has in place.

so if you're going to do it, my advice is: start with a tiny amount. choose an ROA (route of administration) other than IV. have a sober friend nearby with some narcan (generic = naloxone), a drug that can save your life if you do OD. many public health departments in the US offer it for free and anonymously. just google naloxone and the name of your city or county to see if you can find someone who can hook you up with it.

good luck and be as safe as possible. keep the questions coming. no judgment here (at least from most of us ;)).
 
OP, I question the seriousness of this thread but I will say this: don't resort to permanent measures (addiction, death, etc) for a very temporary feeling. This will pass and you'll still have the rest of your life ahead of you.

At 16, I felt like my world was ending. Being a teenager is hard, I was severely depressed and my parent were also indifferent. I was consistently looking for a way to change how I felt. Th result? I was in rehab by 21. They told me another month out there and I wouldn't have made it.

If you need support and want more than a temporary fix, try posting in TDS.
 
swimmingencouraged said:
If your gonna do opiates start with prescription pills please. Heroin is nasty shit at least you know what your getting with pills.

On the college thing. I "dropped out" of high school when I was charged with accessory to homicide. Im now working on getting my prerequisites for my bachelor of science. Luckily I was your age when I was convicted and inside I realized I would be dead if things didn't change for me. I got my GED and applied for college albeit a bit late. My parents are pieces of shit but I also realized that's not my fault and I can't fix it and decided to move on with my life. Take it for what you will but it's just my 2c.
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That makes me have some hope, thanks
 
Thanks everyone for all of the advice. I do think that I should try sticking with pills for a bit and then eventually try snorting or smoking h.
 
drugsarecool said:
I definitely am not intentionally trying to become an addict, I'm looking for a good high and some sort of escape. I honestly just want to try it.
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I don't think anyone intends to become an addict, but there are definite warning signs that can lead to that behavior. You're seeking out one of the most powerful opiates that exists for "a good high and some sort of escape". Trust what everyone has already said because it comes with experience - you can't escape life with drugs, and that's arguably one of the worst reasons you can start using.

Nobody deserves to live feeling depressed and lonely, but whatever temporary relief drugs offer won't fix what you consider broken. We all have personal demons and shortcomings that we need to accept and learn to live with, but understand that you don't have to dwell on them. Drugs can be great, but when you rely on them to fix problems, it usually doesn't work out the way you'd like, and sometimes you end up even deeper than before you started. I know none of us can stop you from doing what you're wanting to do, but if you have to ask if you should use heroin, the answer is no.

Embrace life, find a hobby, do something constructive. There is peace, relief and fun to be found outside of drugs.
 
drugsarecool said:
I definitely am not intentionally trying to become an addict, I'm looking for a good high and some sort of escape. I honestly just want to try it.
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That's how a lot of people wind up addicted to opiates they want to try them, are looking for a good high, or escape and before they know it they wind up becoming both physically and psychologically addicted to them. Seriously don't do it.

Do you know anyone who has ever been addicted to heroin or other opiates? One person I grew up with is and they got into it for the same reasons you did they were depressed, wanted to die, didn't like their parents, wanted to get high, try a new drug, and they've been addicted to opiates and heroin for 20 years and still struggle to stay clean and sober despite having long periods of sobriety after going to rehab.

This person also has overdosed, almost died, relapsed tons of times, and became addicted to other drugs besides opiates as well.

This is just one example of one person. I could give you many more examples of other people I know who got addicted to opiates in either pharmaceutical pill form, and/or heroin.

Watch some documentaries about heroin/opiate addiction on youtube like from drugs inc. or intervention, or something else that doesn't glamourise the drug. Do you really want that to be your life?
 
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I don't think anyone intends to become an addict, but there are definite warning signs that can lead to that behavior. You're seeking out one of the most powerful opiates that exists for "a good high and some sort of escape". Trust what everyone has already said because it comes with experience - you can't escape life with drugs, and that's arguably one of the worst reasons you can start using.

Nobody deserves to live feeling depressed and lonely, but whatever temporary relief drugs offer won't fix what you consider broken. We all have personal demons and shortcomings that we need to accept and learn to live with, but understand that you don't have to dwell on them. Drugs can be great, but when you rely on them to fix problems, it usually doesn't work out the way you'd like, and sometimes you end up even deeper than before you started. I know none of us can stop you from doing what you're wanting to do, but if you have to ask if you should use heroin, the answer is no.

Embrace life, find a hobby, do something constructive. There is peace, relief and fun to be found outside of drugs.
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This is probably going to sound stupid, but drugs are my hobby and I haven't ever done any hard drugs so that is one reason on why I want to do heroin. I know that is literally a very stupid excuse, but that's what I feel. I have a very close minded view on life and I just feel that this is something I really want to do. I don't even care about consequences or any of that because that is just who I am.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
That's how a lot of people wind up addicted to opiates they want to try them, are looking for a good high, or escape and before they know it they wind up becoming both physically and psychologically addicted to them. Seriously don't do it.

Do you know anyone who has ever been addicted to heroin or other opiates? One person I grew up with is and they got into it for the same reasons you did they were depressed, wanted to die, didn't like their parents, wanted to get high, try a new drug, and they've been addicted to opiates and heroin for 20 years and still struggle to stay clean and sober despite having long periods of sobriety after going to rehab.

This person also has overdosed, almost died, relapsed tons of times, and became addicted to other drugs besides opiates as well.

This is just one example of one person. I could give you many more examples of other people I know who got addicted to opiates in either pharmaceutical pill form, and/or heroin.

Watch some documentaries about heroin/opiate addiction on youtube like from drugs inc. or intervention, or something else that doesn't glamourise the drug. Do you really want that to be your life?
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I have watched all of those shows and I feel like I still want to do them. It's not like I didn't look at the consequences, or do some research, bc if I didn't I would have to be pretty stupid to just get the idea of doing heroin and having it be glamorous. There is nothing glamorous about it, I get that. I am not looking to do some glamorous drug and make it all some great thing that everyone could do. I have an uncle in jail for meth possession and he is totally fucked up. I don't wanna do meth or crack. I just want to try heroin once and if I like it, then I think I will use like every couple of months. I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, I just want to make what I'm trying to say and how I feel known.
 
drugsarecool said:
I have watched all of those shows and I feel like I still want to do them. It's not like I didn't look at the consequences, or do some research, bc if I didn't I would have to be pretty stupid to just get the idea of doing heroin and having it be glamorous. There is nothing glamorous about it, I get that. I am not looking to do some glamorous drug and make it all some great thing that everyone could do. I have an uncle in jail for meth possession and he is totally fucked up. I don't wanna do meth or crack. I just want to try heroin once and if I like it, then I think I will use like every couple of months. I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, I just want to make what I'm trying to say and how I feel known.
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Heroin and opiates when you're addicted to them aren't the types of drugs where you can just use them every few months, or just on weekends for years the way a lot of people use cannabis. It may start out that way but it doesn't stay that way for long.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Heroin and opiates when you're addicted to them aren't the types of drugs where you can just use them every few months, or just on weekends for years the way a lot of people use cannabis. It may start out that way but it doesn't stay that way for long.
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Since I don't know how heroin feels, I think I should do it once and see how it is and figure out if I can do it with self control.
 
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