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GrymReefer said:
Quick question for some vets willing to help me a little later on in regards to proof reading and constructive criticism. I see a lot of posts about dieting confusion or people attacking at the wrong angle. I haven't been the most successful in the strength and weight lifting department, but I can honestly say I've really nailed down dieting and am in the process of creating a little Carb Cycle 101 kinda of reference thread. I just wanted to see if anyone would be up to helping me out with the final product and making sure its informative without overdoing it and it actually makes sense. I know I tend to type in broken thought patterns and ramble extensively.
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Please do, we'd be more than happy to offer constructive criticism, or maybe learn something in the process..!!!
 
thanks! I highly doubt you'll learn anything from me, but I see quite a few posts that reminded me of how I started out. Clueless. Hopefully my crash course of dieting will help! Or it could be completely useless!
 
GrymReefer said:
thanks! I highly doubt you'll learn anything from me, but I see quite a few posts that reminded me of how I started out. Clueless. Hopefully my crash course of dieting will help! Or it could be completely useless!
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You seem quite knowledgeable and I'm sure many here (including those who never actually post but just read the forum) will welcome your input.
 
Post away man. I know I'm always open to learning new things. Not posting only hurts us as a whole
 
Ha maybe I'll post my workout routine (that I haven't used because I'm a lazy hooligan)

People always tell me its a terrible routine, but then they also look like trash in terms of conditioning and proportions.

Ever notice the people trying to critique and criticize others (destructively) are the ones that always look terrible and never really progress? That is partially the reason why I stopped going to my other gym and haven't gotten around to checking out the other ones.
 
In my brief stint being on hormones and my brief experience with bodybuilding, there is no shit routines. Some of us thrive on low rep heavy weight. Others need tons of volume. Some need some more isolation work to bring up lagging muscles. It's your individual experience to modify and optimize. I don't care if you do 100 rep squats with just the bar, if you're making progress keep it going.
 
So I understand now why people don't eat all their dbol at once (apart from more stable blood levela).

Missed my morning dose had to do a lot of shit before work and just forgot so decided to double up and took 4 2 hours before the gym. So as usual do bench press first as it's chest, first 2 sets are ok then something goes wrong on the third... Wtf was that shit, so I take a break and move on to incline dumbells and first set is OK sort of then the second set holy fuck I couldn't stand up after it didn't even attempt a third and decided that chest was no good today so moved on to biceps, everything was OK until I decided to up the weight then holy fuck the pain was excruciating... So I got a shower and went to do a sun bed after doing basically fuck all and on my way home in the car I floored it the whole way home the car seat was the worst pain I have felt in years, nearly as bad as when I crashed a motorbike and broke my sternum and 2 ribs, maybe even worse than that...
Never again Will I take more than 2 dbol at once fuck that.

Never had these before but holy fuck they are excruciating like 10/10 pain, like a boot in the balls but on your back...
 
40mg pre-workout produced nigh on unbearable pump for me, felt like my forearms were literally tearing themselves apart. Did it at all feel similar to pump/cramping?
 
Try pinning pecs and delts and doing a push day the next day. Retarded pump but the pain is terrible lol
 
Oh meant to post this. Cabergoline came in so let's see if my puffy nips go away (I'm on very low test and no other aromatising compounds)
 
Have pinned both delts with a decent amount then gone straight to a shoulder sesh before, lol
 
trozzle said:
Have pinned both delts with a decent amount then gone straight to a shoulder sesh before, lol
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Hurts like hell but goddamn. Looking in the mirror afterwards is amazing! Even just like 0.75cc makes my delts stick out an extra half inch, really separates the heads nicely and in a nasty freak way. Chick I was with last night was like "jesus your shoulders and chest are huge!"
 
hahahaha gotta love the compliments :P

If I felt like being a twat, I could replace the Test E with prop and pin delts....would swell up quite nicely....and somewhat painfully lol. But then my shoulders wouldn't work very well (not that they do now anyway ugh)
 
trozzle said:
hahahaha gotta love the compliments :P

If I felt like being a twat, I could replace the Test E with prop and pin delts....would swell up quite nicely....and somewhat painfully lol. But then my shoulders wouldn't work very well (not that they do now anyway ugh)
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Oh man when I was getting Virgin delt pain and inflammation I remember being in tears during lateral raises. People were looking at me weird as I was almost crying and only lifting like 10 pounds lmao
 
heh yep! Though they're not too virgin right now, haven't pinned them in maybe 2 weeks, probably less. It's whatever's in the propionate solution causes horrific irritation in my muscle, so it REALLY swells lol. Makes you think you got a small abscess.
 
CFC said:
Glad to see you're getting deep into your research!

From the point of view of the most perfect supercompensation before a bodybuilding contest, you aren't overthinking it at all.
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You mentioned supercompensation in terms of bodybuilding contests. Would this be utilized within that brief moment say 24 HRS before stepping onstage and is responsible for that extremely full and hard muscle bellies?

Also one would experience in a typical carb cycle following their days of depletion and subsequent refeeding the swelling sensation...is this effect related to the supercompensation mechanism achieved with precontest dieting, but to a lesser degree?

In terms of glycogen retention limits and the max concentration of glycogen storage one can hold...this variable doesn't share a relation with total carbohydrate consumption, but relies on its own predetermined markers?
 
^^^when it comes to bodybuilding at a high level, I'm sure the usage of exogenous insulin also alters the level of super compensation and the rate at which the storage takes place. As for the 24hr refeed: I know after being depleted (legit flat, stringy, no real strength) for two weeks and going on a full cheat day, the next day I looked fantastic and had virtually no spillover, muscles were hard and full, veins everywhere as it seemed the newly introduced carbs pulled what little sub q water I had. I have no science, but sharing my experience to maybe spark some thought.
 
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