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Heroin Speedball OD - time frame

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ElvisPillsley

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The three times Ifell out from SBs I had zero clue, so far as I recall anyway. I've been told ithappened just about immediately, one of the times so quick i still had a rig in my arm.

These experiences have made me worry sometimes, especially if I'musing them alone, that I migth go out at any moment and so when I feel that I really really try to stay awake. E.g., run super cold water on hand,stand, holdeyes wide wide open. However, given whatI just said about when you go out youve got no idea andtherefore can't do shit about it. Then again, one time I went out I have no recollection of the evevnt, but the way I was lying on the floor tells me Igently let myself down. I didn't hit my head on the basement floor I suppose since I had no pain, and I was between a coffee table and tv table which is a narrow space... had I just fallen I'd likely haveat least hit the table some. Perhaps I just can't remember after the fact what I thought before falling out.

Anyway, the specific question here is how long after a shot can you fall out/OD? Like I said for me it's been nearly immediate, anyone know if it can happen 20,30, 60 minutes later? Just curious... seems logical because after a certain amount of time your body woul have a higher concentration of the drug than right after a shot- Ithink.
 
ElvisPillsley said:
The three times Ifell out from SBs I had zero clue, so far as I recall anyway. I've been told ithappened just about immediately, one of the times so quick i still had a rig in my arm.

These experiences have made me worry sometimes, especially if I'musing them alone, that I migth go out at any moment and so when I feel that I really really try to stay awake. E.g., run super cold water on hand,stand, holdeyes wide wide open. However, given whatI just said about when you go out youve got no idea andtherefore can't do shit about it. Then again, one time I went out I have no recollection of the evevnt, but the way I was lying on the floor tells me Igently let myself down. I didn't hit my head on the basement floor I suppose since I had no pain, and I was between a coffee table and tv table which is a narrow space... had I just fallen I'd likely haveat least hit the table some. Perhaps I just can't remember after the fact what I thought before falling out.

Anyway, the specific question here is how long after a shot can you fall out/OD? Like I said for me it's been nearly immediate, anyone know if it can happen 20,30, 60 minutes later? Just curious... seems logical because after a certain amount of time your body woul have a higher concentration of the drug than right after a shot- Ithink.
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It all depends on what drug you are using, but yes a common misconception is that OD's can only happen right after a shot, which is false. As for speedballs, this is especially true, because once the stimulant wears off, the downer can take hold, and a dose otherwise not noticed as too high can become apparent only when its too late after that coke/meth/whatever has gone away and kept you up.
Please be careful, doesn't sound like your in a great place right now.
Good luck
 
^This. Makes a huge difference if you're speedballing with heroin and cocaine vs heroin and methamphetamine. Most OD's from Speedballing with heroin begin immediately upon administration but the cocaine keeps you conscious enough not to really notice... until it wears off.... This can be 5, 10, 15 minutes later. Depends on what drugs are in your system, their purity, and your technique.

Heroin/Methamphetamine speedballs are equally deceiving in terms of your perception of whether you have taken an OD or not, but it's stimulating effects far outlast those of cocaine and often the heroin as well, which can lead to problems when users compensate by using an even higher opiate to speed ratio further contributing to the likelihood of overdose.
 
I am certain it's because I did a second within 1 minute of the first, but was curious why I went out with the rig inmy arm since I usualy don't feel any effects for a few seconds and I immediately take the rig out after a shot. Apparently it hit me before I felt it.

Fortunately I've learend when using these two together it's wise to use LESS of both, and you'll still feel as good. Safer and more economical.
 
Just did one that I thought was a little light really, and I was sure wrong. I'm feeling much safer now, but those first few minues when you wonder if you did it this time aren't fun. After ODing in the bathroom onEaster and not having a single shred of recollection of itkinda makes me paranoind now... if I feel sleepy within like 20 mins of hitting a speedball, well first that's kinda odd onit's own, second, I worry I may not awaken again.

Seen a SB made with less quality ingredients do some absolutely terrible things - quality differential being rock dissolved in vinegar versus melt on your fingertips oily shiny retty cocaine, and just generally steady good powder.

Not having slept last night I'm drowsy after the coke rush drifted away I would love a nap but just can't get past how utterly clueless the OD victim is to, and even more helpless. I guess all of those "fuck me, I should end it, blah" was really just bullshit in the end... or for now anyhow.
 
I'm also surprised that when using high grade blow and dope you can use at least 1/4 or less of what you'd normallly go with and it HITS HARD even still. God damn what a combo... wonder if there's another one out there awaiting discoery....
 
just like you, I have woken up many times w the rig still in my arm. so that right there answers your own question. you can go out IMMEDIATELY, man. then there are times where you may fall out slowly but surly fall out. may take 5-10 mins and you become more and more drowsy, but with speedballs, people tend to go out immediate. I've OD'd from a speedball once w/ xanny mix and I went out immediate.

I've also OD'd many times from just dope and went out immediate.

btw, if you are shooting, and not feeling any effects for a few minutes, then you are missing your vein, man. esp. if you are shooting a speedball. the whole idea of a shot is for that instant gratification.
 
BostonBrownTown said:
just like you, I have woken up many times w the rig still in my arm. so that right there answers your own question. you can go out IMMEDIATELY, man. then there are times where you may fall out slowly but surly fall out. may take 5-10 mins and you become more and more drowsy, but with speedballs, people tend to go out immediate. I've OD'd from a speedball once w/ xanny mix and I went out immediate.

I've also OD'd many times from just dope and went out immediate.

btw, if you are shooting, and not feeling any effects for a few minutes, then you are missing your vein, man. esp. if you are shooting a speedball. the whole idea of a shot is for that instant gratification.
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Yessir. If I said minutes I meant seconds, I can probably count 3 or 4 before the coke taste comes on followed by all the rest. Same with vinegar if slumming.

I agree, it is obvious it hit me immediately with the rig still in, I just figured it didn't circulate fully for several seconds - about the time I taste it. Oh well, hopefully that won't happen again.
 
Did you also notice that when combining you could use far less of each than you would for an individual shot and still feel it great?
 
I agree if it takes MINUTES it was a miss. What I experience though is a delay of seconds, perhaps 4 or 5 between pushing the plunger down and getting the coke sensation first. There is never a doubt as to hit or miss due to that initial coke feeling. If I'm somehow uncertain despite that, merely feeling whether the flesh surrounding the site is numb or not also pretty much answers it.

My OD with rig in - took a 2mg xanax about 5 hours earlier so that shouldn't have made a difference. Then, mixed up a good sized SB, got it in, and said fuck it, I'll do another within 1 minute of the first. Bad idea, as I said I went out so fuckin' fast the needle was still in my arm. Just surprised because the coke always hits first, but then again of course both circulate at the same rate and having the dope in me from the first shot clearly it was just more than I could handle.
 
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