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I also want to find out what it takes to get into the legal MJ business when I'm out there.

Need a scenery change in my life, that's for damn sure.

Do you want to just work somewhere or get a license yourself? It's not hard to get a job, but getting a license is expensive.
 
Do you want to just work somewhere or get a license yourself? It's not hard to get a job, but getting a license is expensive.

I want to see what it takes to get a legal grow going, to be honest. Or what it takes to get employed at one.

This really wasn't my main plan to go out to WA, more of an afterthought. It's not very well-thought out at the moment. I'll be more than happy just to walk into a weed store and buy whatever I want.
 
You should look at what it's gonna take to get something up and running in Maryland.

Once a state issues the licenses they've kind of blown their load, so to speak. And Washington was especially expensive and a mess because of how they set it up. Maryland is going through the process right now though, so if you've got the knowledge and have people you could work with now would be the time there.

Otherwise maybe Oregon? California is still really open too, they haven't really passed any laws yet so anyone can just set up shop, no permission from the state required.
 
Once a state issues the licenses they've kind of blown their load, so to speak. And Washington was especially expensive and a mess because of how they set it up. Maryland is going through the process right now though, so if you've got the knowledge and have people you could work with now would be the time there.

Otherwise maybe Oregon? California is still really open too, they haven't really passed any laws yet so anyone can just set up shop, no permission from the state required.



Maryland only just decriminalized possession of small amounts, and even more recently they decriminalized paraphernalia... And that was in the face of massive resistance, not from the people but from our elected politicians.

I've seen decriminalization/legalization/regulation/taxation voted for like every year in this state for about half a decade, and every year we're threatened with blanket vetoes if we happen to vote one way or the other. I think my state'll be one of the later ones to embrace legalization, to be honest, and that's especially fucked considering DC just up and went legal.



I'll be honest, I really wanted to make it out to Colorado but, again, this trip was more about seeing family than anything else. My family's in WA, not CO, lol.

I'm just really curious to see how the legal MJ industry is run first-hand, if I can get that kind of experience.
 
the recreational store's in WA are crazy expensive man. just letting you know. i have never been to a rec store before i moved to PA because i had my medical card in WA. i had access to the dispensaries and delivery services. my wife went with a friend to a recreational store in WA just to look around and they said the prices were out of control.

@jibult and tater, so it looks like my wife and i are working things out and most likely getting back together. i may move back to WA or she may transfer her job and move east. its all in the works and is going to take some time but we will see how things pan out.

got some kratom in me, kpin, and of course the Green. actually found some decent stuff in the boonies of PA for not to bad of a price. no strain name. :/ god i love Seattle haha
 
the recreational store's in WA are crazy expensive man. just letting you know. i have never been to a rec store before i moved to PA because i had my medical card in WA. i had access to the dispensaries and delivery services. my wife went with a friend to a recreational store in WA just to look around and they said the prices were out of control.



And yet, looking at a few menu's online things seem pretty legit.

If tax is included in the menu price then things don't look outrageous at all to me on anything except the edibles and the aforementioned "caviar," which still sounds worth it. Even the extracts seemed reasonably priced to me. :\



Some of the buds are pricey, most definitely, but it seems like there's always something cheaper available. Top-shelf implies top-dollar wherever your source, you know?
 
And yet, looking at a few menu's online things seem pretty legit.

If tax is included in the menu price then things don't look outrageous at all to me on anything except the edibles and the aforementioned "caviar," which still sounds worth it. Even the extracts seemed reasonably priced to me. :\



Some of the buds are pricey, most definitely, but it seems like there's always something cheaper available. Top-shelf implies top-dollar wherever your source, you know?

right on man that's great, enjoy Seattle's finest you will not be disappointed. its great out there man, i lived in PA until i was 18 then went to Seattle for 6 years and i was blown away by the quality. the whole west coast is legit when it comes to quality if you source correctly. Now i am back in PA, its been a lot harder to find the goods for a decent price but the last two quarters ive picked up over the last couple weeks have been pretty solid for the right price, but man it doesn't compare to the bud i was receiving as a medical patient in Washington state.
 
Maryland only just decriminalized possession of small amounts, and even more recently they decriminalized paraphernalia... And that was in the face of massive resistance, not from the people but from our elected politicians.

I've seen decriminalization/legalization/regulation/taxation voted for like every year in this state for about half a decade, and every year we're threatened with blanket vetoes if we happen to vote one way or the other. I think my state'll be one of the later ones to embrace legalization, to be honest, and that's especially fucked considering DC just up and went legal.



I'll be honest, I really wanted to make it out to Colorado but, again, this trip was more about seeing family than anything else. My family's in WA, not CO, lol.

I'm just really curious to see how the legal MJ industry is run first-hand, if I can get that kind of experience.

I have a few friends in the industry. A couple work/worked as bud-tenders at MMJ dispensaries in the bay area. Paid like any retail job, and same bs as any job except smoking weed wasn't taboo. Being completely blown at work wasn't totally unacceptable but probably not looked very highly upon. As far as the farming end goes... like FM says CA is pretty open still from a legal perspective, although from an economic perspective you might not say the same. Highly competitive for most, lucrative for few.

It is like most any other industry in my experience as far as breaking into it is concerned. Unless you have a lot of money or a lot of knowledge- more likely a lot of both, you are going to have to struggle for a long time before you see any real reward. It is there, but trust me you are not the first stoner to think this. Hippies flock from all over the states to Humboldt County during season.

I'm sure things are a bit different in places like CO, WA, and soon OR and AK where prohibition has been lifted.... but again, like FM says got to have $$$$$$. Land and a growing permit and the capital to get started is all you really need I suppose, but knowledge and industry connections are just as valuable IMO. Most of the guys doing it big up north of CA are 3rd and 4th+ generation growers/land owners from what I understand. Some young guys breaking into it but IME nothing like rappers make it sound. If you're mot a hard worker, smart, and driven you will not succeed.

That all said.. I might take a shot at breaking into the industry where I given a chance. Now is the time without a doubt.
 
right on man that's great, enjoy Seattle's finest you will not be disappointed. its great out there man, i lived in PA until i was 18 then went to Seattle for 6 years and i was blown away by the quality. the whole west coast is legit when it comes to quality if you source correctly. Now i am back in PA, its been a lot harder to find the goods for a decent price but the last two quarters ive picked up over the last couple weeks have been pretty solid for the right price, but man it doesn't compare to the bud i was receiving as a medical patient in Washington state.


Yeah, dude, it's hard to deny the difference between a legitimate medical source and coppin' your tree off some random guy in your neighborhood.

Still, though, quality's available everywhere... it just seems like on the west coast and, specifically, in legalized states it's just so god damned plentiful. From what I hear, at least, I'll find out for myself soon enough. %)


I'm excited, man, I've never left the East Coast before. This'll be the first time I've ever changed time zones.
 
Yeah, dude, it's hard to deny the difference between a legitimate medical source and coppin' your tree off some random guy in your neighborhood.

The quality might not be much different, but it's good to have a wide selection, random guys in the neighbourhood don't usually have 20 different types to choose from, at least not in my neighbourhood, lucky to get a choice of 2 without having to visit a different random guy.
 
Copped an 1/8th for some solo dolo time this week. Gonna test the waters now.

Never ended up seeing the movie Thujone, we just ended up getting too high & tired to do anything.

I hate being an unproductive stoner.
 
The quality might not be much different, but it's good to have a wide selection, random guys in the neighbourhood don't usually have 20 different types to choose from, at least not in my neighbourhood, lucky to get a choice of 2 without having to visit a different random guy.

I'm gonna disagree with you on that. I smoked all kinds of east coast bud, and it comes close but unless you're a master grower and you grow it yourself, it's not as good as California (and even then, it's not as good).

Even people that get stuff in the mail, unless you're Wiz Khalifa, the best stuff doesn't leave the state.

I don't say that to rub it in, I say it because I'm a refugee (but also a political activist), so I think it's important people not be satisfied with the illegal systems that they have. Even over-regulated systems like Colorado (in some ways, I'll be the first to say California has problems, but it's the only state you can be diagnosed by a doctor and get medicine the same day...)
 
How can California indoor grown weed be any better than the same weed grown indoors somewhere else? Great weed can be grown indoors anywhere as long as there's a decent water supply & you don't need to be an expert to grow a weed, just give it light, water, food & ventilation, the plant does the rest. Nearest legal weed to me is in Holland & I really have to search to find anything as good as I can get at home (I think they don't want stoned tourists passing out in their shop so keep the best stuff back), I've ended up having to smoke hash to get high on the last couple of visits, but it's still nice to have a menu listing 20+ different strains.

I'm far from satisfied with illegal systems, but it always seems to be top shelf material here, there's just a lack of choice & every few months one of my dealers has to spend a few hours in a police cell which can't be nice.

Top tip, don't rub your eyes after breaking up sticky bud. Eyeball is not a good RoA for finger hash. Ow.
 
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Top tip, don't rub your eyes after breaking up sticky bud. Eyeball is not a good RoA for finger hash. Ow.


Shit makes your eyes feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper...


Mafioso, didn't even see your post before my last reply. Most appreciated.

I've got the work ethic (when I'm on the clock %)), I'm intelligent enough and it's what I've always wanted to do. I've got a couple good friends that've grown before that want to get involved in it with me (or me with them... equally, is what I'm trying to say) The only things that've held me back from getting involved with the more profitable side of the drug trade are the legal ramifications, but now that it can be done legally I feel like my own inhibitions are the only things holding me back from at least trying, you know?
 
If I could grow legally for a living I would jump on that so fast..
To be perfectly honest I've more than once thought about at the very least growing for myself.. The savings would be astronomical
 
for sure in the fuuch ima have some plants around my house for me and le mrs. I'd tell her she won't need to go to the pharmacy EVER. as for my kids? it's the pinnacle of my existence in the category of freedom & relaxation. they will respect my tree as i will respect their bs
 
Shit makes your eyes feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper...


Mafioso, didn't even see your post before my last reply. Most appreciated.

I've got the work ethic (when I'm on the clock %)), I'm intelligent enough and it's what I've always wanted to do. I've got a couple good friends that've grown before that want to get involved in it with me (or me with them... equally, is what I'm trying to say) The only things that've held me back from getting involved with the more profitable side of the drug trade are the legal ramifications, but now that it can be done legally I feel like my own inhibitions are the only things holding me back from at least trying, you know?

All good... just trying to be real with you not trying to discourage. I have met and have a lot of friends with similar mindsets- the thing is, most who will actually embark are not lazy or stupid either. In fact, the successful ones are much of the opposite, probably highly motivated and have a very specific skill set/knowledge base(horticulture but also business and marketing). I mean there are people with college degrees with similar goals in mind who will be your direct competition. Where I live, it still is highly lucrative for some, but most get eaten up in the competition.

I know this guy who is dedicating 6 days a week for an entire outdoor season(something around 4 months give or take, maybe longer) for a % of a very small number of plants. IMO, he will make much MUCH less with all time and energy factored into it than he will had he worked a minimum wage job 40hrs a week. The further up north of California, the more people like this you will run into. Straight fucking hippies- no disrespect. A lot of them are largely homeless and travel from farm to farm during the season doing trim/labor work. It's cash work and usually pays OK, but as far a future is concerned.... well there are no pension or fringe benefits in this game. There is the potential to become a competitive or even dominant player in the legal weed trade but it won't arise without years of focused dedication IMO, as with anything else.

The people who have the real edge that I see are the ones who transitioned from black market to legal market- already having the knowledge, industry connections, and capitol. Idk if you ever heard the term the "Green Rush" but this is exactly what it refers to. People- not just hippies either!!!!! People with money are traveling from all over the states to legal/friendlier states in hopes of making riches off of growing pot.
 
It must be great to live somewhere with legal weed even if it's not legal for recreational purposes, just somewhere where they respect the plant.

I'm going to Amsterdam next week so i'm super excited (been before but didn't smoked), I know i may not find the best weed in the world but just the act of being able to do it legally and having a big strain selection is great.
 
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