I am 39 years old. When I was younger I really beat up my body by football boxing, doing steroids and lifting insane amount of weights. I had my share of fights. I bought a auto repair business, worked 7 Days a week. Before I knew it, I gained so much weight from eating out, and I love ice cold coca cola in a can!!! I could put 20 back in a day. So I hurt my knee picking up a transmission, at that point in time.I was about 550.pounds,now I am down to 350,.and TRYING to lose more. However, this doc I an seeing was giving me 180 Norco 10every 2 weeks, with fine released oxycontin. Oxycontin wasn't doing sHi. So i went to talk to him, be changed my Norco to oxycodone 30, and for time release, the fentanyl patch. I have been on Norco for over 8 years, so obviously I have a tolerance. Yesterday, I went to a Neuro surgeo. For my back, had the patch in, took the oxycodone when j was supposed to, left there sore as hell! The doc said I was going to have a hard time southeast, cause no surgery yet. So with chronic back pain and 2 knees that need to be replaced. WHAT CAN I TAKE, SO I CAN LOSE.FOR.WEIGHT, AND BE NORMAL AGAIN????
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CHRONIC Pain - Need to lose weight
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Welcome to bluelight. I'm going to move your thread.
Homeless -> Healthy Living
If you wish to explore pain management strategies please visit the pain management megathread.
Homeless -> Healthy Living
If you wish to explore pain management strategies please visit the pain management megathread.
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/727699-Weight-loss-guide?
Are you looking for a substance that will help you lose weight?
Are you looking for a substance that will help you lose weight?
Runtoparadise
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It's not so much what you can take to lose weight as what you put in your mouth.
Sorry if that comes across as harsh, but really, you could have 20 cans of coke a day?!? Google the amount of sugar/kilojoules right there.
There is no magic bullet for weight loss. Don't know where "South East" is,- but even if there is a pill available they come with nasty side effects & no lasting results.
Fresh, unprocessed food is your friend. And portion sizes.
Best of luck,
Rtp
Sorry if that comes across as harsh, but really, you could have 20 cans of coke a day?!? Google the amount of sugar/kilojoules right there.
There is no magic bullet for weight loss. Don't know where "South East" is,- but even if there is a pill available they come with nasty side effects & no lasting results.
Fresh, unprocessed food is your friend. And portion sizes.
Best of luck,
Rtp
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Sustained weight loss can only be achieved through diet and exercise (with an emphasis on the "diet" part).
Count your calories every day. You can use the TDEE calculator to determine how many cals you should be eating to lose weight. Move as much as you can each day, even if it only means taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Every little bit helps.
If you're looking for a weight loss drug from a doctor, you'll probably get something like phentermine or Belviq. These meds can help jumpstart your weight loss, but you'll gain it all back (and then some) if you don't change your habits.
Count your calories every day. You can use the TDEE calculator to determine how many cals you should be eating to lose weight. Move as much as you can each day, even if it only means taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Every little bit helps.
If you're looking for a weight loss drug from a doctor, you'll probably get something like phentermine or Belviq. These meds can help jumpstart your weight loss, but you'll gain it all back (and then some) if you don't change your habits.
SixBuckets
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Which makes them about as effective, long term, as diet and exercise. A meta-analysis published a few years back put the percentage of "people who lost weight through diet and exercise" who gained back at least the amount they had lost within 5 years at 95%.
If you're overweight because of consistent overeating, stopping that may help you lose some weight, but calorie restriction is the worst plan if you want to reduce body size or fat.
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This... People nowadays are way too quick to look for some magic pill to take for their problems instead of facing them head on. There's really no shortcuts when it comes to diet or exercise. Even if all the OP did was cut out soft drink, that would be damn near 3000 calories right there.
I would wager that's because they stopped exercising and eating right, not because their snake oil diet pills quit working.
Seriously? That makes about as much sense as telling an anorexic person that eating more is a terrible idea to increase their body size.
SixBuckets
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It was a meta-analysis of all the available research on weight loss through diet and exercise. If 95% of people who lose weight through diet and exercise are gaining it back, even in the unlikely circumstance that every single one of them has gone "Nah, bugger this, I'm ditching my effective lifestyle improvements and going on a cake diet", then don't you think that that indicates there's something more going on that just lazy fatties gotta eat?
Not really. We've been studying calorie restriction since at least the 1950s and we've only discovered the calorie restriction/leptin response connection in the last few years. We've got a lot more to find out, but literally all the data we have says that weight loss through calorie restriction is not only unsustainable, but leads to permanent changes in the body that promote weight gain.
But, again, I guess it's easier to just presume that almost everyone who's ever dieted ever just doesn't have the "willpower" to stick to it.
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Amphetamines will work for a month or two and then you will start 'binge' eating to suppress the comedown. Everyone is different, but I gained 80 pounds while doing a gram of coke a day. When the coke ran out, I would eat myself to sleep. Mike tyson also gained more than 100 pounds when he was using cocaine after he retired.
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I'd be interested in seeing the source.
No. There's a phenomenon I'd call the New Year's resolution gym goers. After New Year's you always see about twice the amount of people in the gym than you usually do. After about two weeks you don't usually see any of them anymore. I have no reason to think it's any different for people that go on a diet. I don't think the circumstance is unlikely at all. It's easy to start eating healthy and exercising, it's much harder to make that a lifestyle change.
Again, sources? I have never in my life heard of calorie restriction being unsustainable and causing permanent changes in the body that promote weight gain. I'm sorry but that sounds like total B.S.
Well it's not exactly some crazy secret that a lot of people get on a diet but end up failing and falling back into their previous unhealthy lifestyles. It's really no different than any other addiction, this one just happens to be food. For someone that's eaten unhealthily their whole life it is going to take tremendous willpower to change. That's why I think diets are actually stupid in the first place because the emphasis really needs to be in a sustainable lifestyle change.
Journyman16
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For something a little different... get off the carbs. Seriously. You can pretty much eat as many calories as you want provided there are no carbs in there... and that means sugars AND sugar substitutes like in the 'diet' drinks. If you're addicted to 'sweet' look at Stevia products - we have an Australian one called Natvia that's pretty good.
Lots of fats from real sources like meat, lots of protein and fresh green veggies. No potatoes, corn, rice or anything else with starch in it.
Look up 'ketogenic diet' for assistance in how to eat.
Good luck...
Lots of fats from real sources like meat, lots of protein and fresh green veggies. No potatoes, corn, rice or anything else with starch in it.
Look up 'ketogenic diet' for assistance in how to eat.
Good luck...
SixBuckets
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Here's a study on long term hormonal adaptations to calorie restriction, including the leptin response and the relationship between reduction of adiposal tissue and hunger signals in the hypothalamus: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1105816
Here's an article on the Minnesota Starvation Experiment, which was done in the 1950s. We have literally known for sixty years that calorie restriction causes food obsession, depression and binging. http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/10/hunger.aspx
Here's an article on a 55-year study by the British Medical Research Council that found almost every participant gained weight despite any attempt to lose weight over the course of the study: http://www.rxpgnews.com/obesity/Overweight-people-will-stay-that-way-for-ever_524153.shtml
Unfortunately both that final study and the meta analysis I mentioned in my post are behind academic paywalls, but you get the idea.
And here's a study on the impact on resting metabolic rate and circulating leptin of weight loss including calorie restriction: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25236175
That's not the study I had in mind, but it was the best I could do outside of paywall.
I'm certainly not denying that those people exist, but they're not who I'm talking about. The 95% figure is people who succeed at losing weight through exercise/diet/"lifestyle change" and then gain back the weight. That is all of those people who have managed to make the lifestyle changed effectively enough to lose a measurable amount of weight. That can't all be accounted for in just "giving up".
Hunger hormones are a thing. Metabolic rate is a thing. We've had this evolutionary response to fight starvation since before we were mammals. See studies above.
Except that not all fat people overeat, and not all overeaters are fat? Weight gain and loss is a really complicated series of interactions between lots of different bodily systems. We still don't really understand how it works.
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Also I don't think they put out publications, but these guys incorporated the data from that meta analysis into one of their conferences - I can't remember which year it was tho https://www.anzos.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=89&Itemid=469
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I can't help that I'm fat! I have a hormonal imbalance. It couldn't be the box of Twinkies I just ate that I washed down with 2 liters of Pepsi. 8)
Sorry, but without responding to every single thing you posted that's basically what I got. Sure there are instances where people have health problems that cause them to gain weight, but for the majority of overweight people I can say with confidence it's probably because they eat like shit and don't exercise.
Sorry, but without responding to every single thing you posted that's basically what I got. Sure there are instances where people have health problems that cause them to gain weight, but for the majority of overweight people I can say with confidence it's probably because they eat like shit and don't exercise.
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What are you basing that on?
DrGreenthumb
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Marijuana.
Runtoparadise
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I read a very recent Australian study, (forgot where though), that new research supports that crash diets are now equally as sustainable as the slow & steady weight loss method.
Low carb high protein eight week program might appeal to the OP. Then it's just a matter of keeping the kilojoules down & exercise up.
Rtp
Low carb high protein eight week program might appeal to the OP. Then it's just a matter of keeping the kilojoules down & exercise up.
Rtp
nuttynutskin
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Not the flawed shit you're posting obviously.