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^Agreed! Not trying to blame being unsuccessful with NA/AA on anyone but myself...but, I think if I were in the same position now and needed to quit I would probably be much more successful. There were a few factors that weighed heavily on me then that just aren't there anymore. Could PM me if you want a little more clarification.
 
atreyaferret said:
^Agreed! Not trying to blame being unsuccessful with NA/AA on anyone but myself...but, I think if I were in the same position now and needed to quit I would probably be much more successful. There were a few factors that weighed heavily on me then that just aren't there anymore. Could PM me if you want a little more clarification.
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I understand you man, it doesnt always work for everyone. Especially if ur not really the religious type. Thats what steered me away from it for a long time, it seemed alot like a cult to me. I still think its a fuckin cult to a certain degree. However, sometimes when I go to meetings it makes me feel like I'm being proactive, like im actually doing something about my addiction and that feels good. I'm not a AA book thumper or anyting, I only go to a meeting here and there, very seldom.
 
I've went to NA and AA meetings when i was in rehab because of the religious part i also didn't like it. Most of the people i hangout with are not addicts and never have been. They try to understand but just can't. I know a few people who went through this with pain pills but there either all on methadone or still using. I do have one person i can relate too which is nice. My aunt.
 
Siq, religion is bollocks IMO, its all willpower and if you wanna quit that badly you can. support and help is good, but it is you that needs to do it and needs to want it.

The sad thing is bro, most of us can do a while clean and then havea a little taste from a mate who deosn't understand and BAM back to square fucking one.

You wanna quit?
 
beels said:
Siq, religion is bollocks IMO, its all willpower and if you wanna quit that badly you can. support and help is good, but it is you that needs to do it and needs to want it.

The sad thing is bro, most of us can do a while clean and then havea a little taste from a mate who deosn't understand and BAM back to square fucking one.

You wanna quit?
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Well, its been a struggle for me for the past 12yrs. I've quit on a few different occasions, usually anywhere between 1-2.5yrs. Mostly its on my own, besides the fact I purposely live with other sober people when I am sober. Personally I have not figured out how to live alone and be successfully clean and sober..

So most of the time the story goes like this... I decide to get clean. I go to rehab. I move in with other sober people. I decide to make the next step and live alone... I relapse... story starts over...
 
siq said:
I understand you man, it doesnt always work for everyone. Especially if ur not really the religious type. Thats what steered me away from it for a long time, it seemed alot like a cult to me. I still think its a fuckin cult to a certain degree. However, sometimes when I go to meetings it makes me feel like I'm being proactive, like im actually doing something about my addiction and that feels good. I'm not a AA book thumper or anyting, I only go to a meeting here and there, very seldom.
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Yea I think it works better for people that are religious. Gives them something to hang on to and hope for maybe? I don't know. I was raised very Southern Baptist. Was taken to church alllll the time. But the older I got the more I started to realize that just wasn't for me. Have done a lot of religious exploration, especially of other cultures and the religions that tie them together. I find myself saying this here and there when people bring it up..."The ones that go to church are the ones who need it the most." Just my opinion. I don't believe in a God per se. More like something that connects us all...metaphysically. That's probably another discussion altogether haha.
I do have the Serenity Prayer tattooed on my right forearm as a part of my sleeve...I was waiting on a customer once a few years ago and he mentioned Dr. Bob and I was like "Whaaaa? Oh...no actually it hasn't got anything to do with that." Although I am happy for the people that it actually works for. It's cool that you get that feeling of being proactive with it. That helps a ton.
 
Im not religious which is a part of NA/AA that i dont like. It also brings me down to think that this is always gonna be a struggle for me. The thought of never doing it again gives me a panick attack, especially during holidays.
 
My drinking picks up when im cleaning up from opiates. I can drink once every 6 months when on opiates but once im clean from them iTs like I NEED something.

OP if you ever need someone to talk to PM me because im very similar. sometimes you just want to except your fate as a junkie for life but come on man you can give yourself a few months to see what life clean is about can't you? You can always go back but give yourself more time and force yourself to get out of the FUKING house with the warm weather coming. I know everything is better on opiates but only in the beginning. Once the addiction cycle begins you realize everything was a fog on opiates and not really better for long

Good luck
 
atreyaferret said:
I tried NA/AA once about 7 years ago. I know it works for some people and it's amazing for them and that's awesome. For me, it was terrible. Maybe it's just my personality, I don't really do well with large crowds and what not. Also could just be that

where I live there seems to be so many a holes. Of all the places I've lived I swear there are more jerks here per capita than anywhere else lol try not to be too hard on yourself about relapsing. It's so very hard to clean up (who am I to be talking;)) I think the fact that you want to and keep trying speaks for itself. The very first time I quit was awful. Was living with my mother at the time and did that CT. We're all here for you bro :) hope you feel better soon.
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Same man. Im from NY but went to some meetings in colorado a year ago. Honestly they were to friendly it was weird like woahh idk you and you want to hug me for being here? Good people though
 
i could use some tips too fellas

lately i've been trying reading, drawing, exercising, studying about neurology (drugs got me interested in that), learning in general, even hanging out with friends but i admit it isn't really 'awesome' you know...
experimenting with drugs was an awesome hobby, until it got to IV blow and then it wasnt about experimenting anymore, just getting blasted

can't say i was addicted but drugs - studying, experimenting - was my entire life and now its getting destructive... i got myself an awesome gf, super supportive, positive, passionate that helped me a lot for a while, but eventually my depressive ass got tired of it, its so sad if i think of it

its like i really dont have any reason to wake up... not in a suicidal and heavily depressed manner, im just ultra-hyper 'meh' and dont know how to change that, everything i try is kinda boring

i had to vent sorry guys. i know lots of you got it pretty worse and my case is kinda mild but i dont want it to get full-blown out of control before i try to 'choose life'.

tips? im completely broke by the way, so nothing expensive
 
^^^^porn?? Im sure there is plenty to keep you busy.

But seriously whst are you passionate about in life? You have tried some things which i give you credit for, but you haven't tried everything. Are you still with the girlfriend?

do you work?

What does a daily routine look like for Ya young chap?
 
I try to keep myself busy and surrounded by sober people I've found getting very involved with AA or NA helps a lot I've sadly pretty much dropped all my old friends and im just hanging out with the sober people from meetings. Volunteer work is helpful too it makes u feel good. I just try to ignore and not think about how truly unhappy i am clean, fake it till u make it right?
 
Tacoma said:
I try to keep myself busy and surrounded by sober people I've found getting very involved with AA or NA helps a lot I've sadly pretty much dropped all my old friends and im just hanging out with the sober people from meetings. Volunteer work is helpful too it makes u feel good. I just try to ignore and not think about how truly unhappy i am clean, fake it till u make it right?
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That is what I had to do. I just cannot hang out with people who use. I have met some great people in NA and also found my girlfriend there and our relationship is on a much deeper level then any other GF I have had (which has its positives and negatives).

They say "Don't leave until the miracle happens" for a reason. I just had to simply give it time. I was actually just thinking about how crazy I felt my first month clean, its completely different to how I feel now. Amazing really. Don't give up and it sounds like you are doing the right thing.

Also, exercise can really help.
 
Tacoma said:
So I've now been off heroin for a little over a week and i gotta say lifes just awful. I do want to be sober and okay but i don't know how much longer i can do this. I've been drinking poppy seed tea to make the withdrawal bearable its helping but i really have no idea how to deal with life when i'm not blasted out of my mind anymore. Here's whats bothering me the most about being off heroin ..
1- feeling my feelings i hate this i want to be numb to everything again.
2- weight gain I've already gained a couple pounds since i stopped using.
3- CRAVINGS
4- i badly miss shooting up
5- depression and mood swings
6- physical pain everything hurts.
I feel like im no longer making good decisions for myself i mostly just sit in my house being anti social and feeling shitty. People say "it gets easier " but does it really? Because all i do is sleep. This is the longest i've ever been off of the shit i feel like I've come far to just throw it all away but i don't think i can keep going. Anyone got any tips that helped them get through this terrible time?
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I had that too.
I had to struggle with alot of issues.
1. feeling useless.
2. the cravings
3. unable to decide properly.

it was a shitty time.
But im past it. I transferred to a place where there is ZERO substance. New people. I still have my cravings. and the anxieties (i was on crystal). but i promise you two things it will be hard struggle and the temptation doesnt make it easier. but 2 your life will be proper.

Im only saying it because i was in a destructive path.
 
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neurotic said:
i could use some tips too fellas

lately i've been trying reading, drawing, exercising, studying about neurology (drugs got me interested in that), learning in general, even hanging out with friends but i admit it isn't really 'awesome' you know...
experimenting with drugs was an awesome hobby, until it got to IV blow and then it wasnt about experimenting anymore, just getting blasted

can't say i was addicted but drugs - studying, experimenting - was my entire life and now its getting destructive... i got myself an awesome gf, super supportive, positive, passionate that helped me a lot for a while, but eventually my depressive ass got tired of it, its so sad if i think of it

its like i really dont have any reason to wake up... not in a suicidal and heavily depressed manner, im just ultra-hyper 'meh' and dont know how to change that, everything i try is kinda boring

i had to vent sorry guys. i know lots of you got it pretty worse and my case is kinda mild but i dont want it to get full-blown out of control before i try to 'choose life'.

tips? im completely broke by the way, so nothing expensive
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This post could have been written by someone that never had a drug problem. These are the feelings of someone that is aching to feel connection on a much deeper level and being mystified as to how to go about it--it really has all the hallmarks of an existential crisis. Have you ever read anything by Gabor Maté? In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts is long and it is about addiction but it is worth reading because he goes much deeper than most do. It might point the way for future explorations. Beyond that how about focusing your reading on Buddhist philosophy for a while--the very practical tenets (living in the now rather than past and future, finding compassion for yourself and others rather than judgment, meditation or clearing the mind) are empowering at the level that you are experiencing pain.<3
 
Hi, Tacoma -- just read through your thread here and just like so many others you're getting through the course of putting it down. Congratulations on being able to identify the problem and know you need to kick it.

Eat - Heart healthy, energizing foods
Exercise - Sweat it out (drink plenty) and work on posture, flexibility.
Hobby - Something to fall back on when you aren't motivated to do anything at all (get a magazine subscription to something cool, and immerse yourself)
Sleep - As much as you can

The physical withdrawal symptoms will go away first, but yeah, it's a bitch -- the psychological withdrawal symptoms persist for a long time, months to years (for some). But it gets easier.

Rinse and repeat, and take back your life.

And remember, one day at a time.
 
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