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Regional Pill / MDMA Discussion - my spectacular metabolism at work

were these a peachy pink colour by any chance? i had a couple of pink monkey pills in slovenia and they were wicked, proper empathetic loved up sociable pills that were great for sex :D

Am I rite and I remember saying they were not any monkeys but Paul Frank monkey? or is it my mind :D they were pretty pills.
 
Safrole is the key precursor - when they started to list it as a 'watched' chemical cack in the 90's there was a real shortage of ecstacy and when it reappeared it was not thesame - yes you would get the rushes , gurning and some empathy but the main difference was by 6am you would start to feel tired and go to sleep when you got home as opposed to being 'on it' the next day drinking tea smoking blunts and having a laff.


^ this is my recollection of this period. Think it was the summer of 98 when things changed then we entered the mitsubushi phase where they were the most common stamp but something had changed with the pills.
 
Am I rite and I remember saying they were not any monkeys but Paul Frank monkey? or is it my mind :D they were pretty pills.

they weren't the Paul Frank monkeys, remember i was hunting thru pillreport's for em but couldn't find em?

they were very nice lil pills :)
 
Can't remember the actual pill but i remember us discussing the color and browsing. Such dickheads :D Also you were the one that had it and we had lotsa fun - great stuff :D
 
Can't remember the actual pill but i remember us discussing the color and browsing. Such dickheads :D Also you were the one that had it and we had lotsa fun - great stuff :D

we did indeed xD i was gunna say too much fun, but it was perfect tbh :D, well, it got perfect the next day.. when i was .. anyway ill leave that there.. noone needs to hear the rest of that =D
 
My monkeys are a creamy white colour. Really plain and simple but ever so perfect.
 
One thing I also find strange is how people bang on about how good pills were around 2005 - 2007. I remember in them days people taking anything from 4 - 15 in a night and paying a tenner for 5 and they were shite imo. There was the odd good one like playstations but they were nothing like the ones today.

does anybody else think that was some sort of golden era?
The only reason I mentioned 2007 is because that's when piperazines replaced MDMA pills. I've taken them since 2001 and I rarely encountered shit pills, until the drought.
 
I tell thee there was a change in mdma around 98 just when the mitzis flooded the country and again around 2010 just after the drought.
Around about these times different precursors were used. Saffrol to pmk then after the drought pmk to PMK-Glycidate.
 
The last time I ate original mdma in 2008.
Most likely that mdma from PMK-Glycidate suits not all.
 
One thing I also find strange is how people bang on about how good pills were around 2005 - 2007. I remember in them days people taking anything from 4 - 15 in a night and paying a tenner for 5 and they were shite imo. There was the odd good one like playstations but they were nothing like the ones today.

does anybody else think that was some sort of golden era?

Was the first two years of me taking them, our dealer had a batch of Bicycles that we went through all summer - they were absolutely top. Loved up and high all night long, unlike the longevity of MDMA I've had in the last couple of years.

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Also had a lot of the Loveheart stamped pills that were high on MDA. Had some heavy trips... fucking running up the road bare foot at 2am thinking I was in a marathon, was pretty silly with doses back then but no harm apart from crippling emotional damage ridden comedowns :D

Felt like a 'golden era' to me because it's really never been better (though MDMA crystal from 2008 til the drought was always fucking top). I even lived in Hong Kong for a year in 2007-8 and the pills I had out there were out of this world, can't remember the logo mind.
 
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People who say mdma is mdma, or whatever it is are wrong.

Glad there are many people starting to agree with this, it was becoming frustrating to see people shot down all the time whenever they mention something along those lines.

We all know there are a billion different factors that will effect your high, but we're not idiots, many of us have been taking this for a decade or more.

Shame when it comes to drugs you can't vote with your wallet.
 
I just wonder if I took that same pill that I did in 2003 now if I'd feel the same as I
did then, somehow I doubt it.

wonder if anyone has kept any really old pills and would be willing to try one and compare to pills now.
 
I just wonder if I took that same pill that I did in 2003 now if I'd feel the same as I
did then, somehow I doubt it.

wonder if anyone has kept any really old pills and would be willing to try one and compare to pills now.

I signed up specifically to reply to this as I've been reading around. Pretty sure there was a guy on this site or maybe a different one who fairly recently tested a 90's pill as he had a few left (used a test kit) and the reaction was purple and stayed purple instead of going to Black like these modern dutch pills. Thought he said he tested doves or Mitsubishis I cant quite remember now but it might be worth having a search around for it, might even have been in this topic somewhere!

One thing I'm curious about, if pills fizz and give off smoke when tested with mandelin (and obviously turn purple to black) what does this mean? More specifically why do some pills fizz / smoke when tested with Mandelin while others don't, despite apparently being the same strength in terms of Mg. Perhaps someone with knowledge of Chemistry could explain?
 
The police have found 55 kilograms of ecstasy,various products related to the manufacture of the drug as well as 200 thousand euros in cash on a site on Slesignerstraat in Brunssum.The police, in cooperation with the Ministry of Defense, have been searching the house and several sheds on the property since Sunday. Thus far they have found 55 kilograms of ecstasy, 45 barrels of ecstasy waste, more than 200 thousand euros in cash and a dismantled ecstasy production site. The police also found a firearm with ammunition, stamps of tabletting machines, an unknown amount of MDMA oil and 74 liters of acetone.

The free basis floats in isopropyl alcohol, ether . I don't think that there found the free basis.
Most likely predecessor.
Perhaps safrol. Maybe here did original ecstasy .

laboratory on production mdma. I think that the equipment identical to production mdma of 3,4-MDP2P or PMK-Glycidate. All the same of what to do to producers mdma. Main this quantity. If there is a safrol will do of it, will end will be from PMK-Glycidate. Can mix two mdma in one pill that the difference big wasn't between original and not original
. Then also different parties of one pill turn out.
In laboratory to order predecessors. That to them will bring, from this and do. Try as can, but that not always turns out that is necessary.


Did only of safrol earlier. There was a high quality. Also there was no need to do tablets more than 120-130 mg
 
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I just wonder if I took that same pill that I did in 2003 now if I'd feel the same as I
did then, somehow I doubt it.


wonder if anyone has kept any really old pills and would be willing to try one and compare to pills now.


I remember summer 2005 here in Holland when a friend offered to share her old pill collection from around '90-'95 it had many legendary Dutch classic pills Clovers, Salmies, Doves, Barrels etc.. (Most were from the Amsterdam scene which had more of the MDMA and a bit of MDA compared to MDEA which was more common around Rotterdam and The Hague)

Some I had only heard of and was now in the fortunate position to try myself like the very nice MDMA Clovers they were Wybert shaped pills.. These had a smooth come-up and a distinct clearheaded energetic and lovely smooth feel to them. The rest of the collection also had prime examples of classic pills, like the classic licorice tasting salmies or even very good doves which would later be very common and unreliable when the stamp would get passed around quite a bit same goes for the sammies from that lovely little treasure trove. 5 years later (or 10 years ago) there would be many fakes

(Unlike the huge drop in an old MDEA banger like grey triangles would produce, duration was a bit too short and wavy for dance floors, but were lovely in their own way.. God I do miss those bombshells now they would really hit you well.. As far as I can tell MDEA has left the face of the earth....)

In contrast to the many batches of MDMA and various pills from that time even pre safrol drought it was a distinct and I would dare say huge difference in effect.

Someone told me it had to do with production process being simplified in later years (people preferring not to use an autoclave) But it is hearsay.. Does this sound plausible to you grals?
 
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I just wonder if I took that same pill that I did in 2003 now if I'd feel the same as I
did then, somehow I doubt it.

wonder if anyone has kept any really old pills and would be willing to try one and compare to pills now.

I've got a bucket load of 92 snowballs kickin about ! IMO anyone hanging onto decent pills that long needs to give them to someone who appreciates them. I never made it home with any let alone stashed them for decades
 
It would be very interesting to see if a GC-MS analysis or other tests could tell any difference between early nineties and more recent MDMA and it would be cool if someone could perform some blind tests for differences in effects. :D

That box was empty in a few days and we sure appreciated them (she did too, she followed my lead and tucked away some choice ones and left a few notorious ones like Elephants first PMA or strychnine, cant remember but they caused trouble untouched)

I will never forget that summer, it was a once in a lifetime experience to have such an opportunity and to taste some of those fine vintage pills I had only heard of in that period they were from like the Cloves and to be able to relive the taste of a few well known classics.

They truly feel better with age but sadly, only in comparison.
 
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