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Monday thread - bangles, boomtown rats, you takes your lyric you takes your choice

I think i sort of fainltly remember the steve sircull account from a while back, yeah i know what u mean ive been away from the bl community infrequently over the past few years, but i always love this place and how it helped me in my younger years, for sure jus drop me a pm anytime, yeah im jus come offa valium taper and i am at 0 from like 80mg daily over a short span, still cant sleep but will hold off for one more week, suely sleep will come then, sleep is only important for funtioning and that i am not :-( must say iam so close to dosing but as i say give it another week..

Heres to the spirit of another chapter in our lives, lets make this a good one to remember :-)

Oh Bluelight is aceeeeeeeeeeee.... WOW you've been around a lonnnnnnnnnnng time, eh!

Just been welcoming xome newbies in NMI.... Felt a bit guilty lately as haven't done that in awhile.... There's a few that will hopefully come to EADD, and one new member already participating in EADD so all's good. Hope we can get some more and get traffic in here again......

Evey
 
Oh Bluelight is aceeeeeeeeeeee.... WOW you've been around a lonnnnnnnnnnng time, eh!

Just been welcoming xome newbies in NMI.... Felt a bit guilty lately as haven't done that in awhile.... There's a few that will hopefully come to EADD, and one new member already participating in EADD so all's good. Hope we can get some more and get traffic in here again......

Evey

indeed evey , i only woke up like 3 hours ago or so :/ its good to have some fresh faces aswell as some old faces in here, i didnt realise you could get that high a post count on bl within 18 months, 8400 posts ! :O wow.. i must say its good to see active members on here, it has been hard seeing over the years many members younger/ older than me have either left/ died, i really understand people do phase away from bl though, i do understand why they do. its also good to keep visiting these boards and seeing all the old people i remember and all the new faces of bl that are here. i should post more in NMI, *whisks off to welcome some newbies*
 
ok, just to put an end to this sad and soppy tale, spoke to her last night - we're going out for something to eat a week on saturday

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great news :) now give that beard a trim get ya gladrags on and most importantly enjoy the night :) hell its tuesday already i should be asleep !
 
ok, just to put an end to this sad and soppy tale

Nope, you've set and expectation and I'm sure I'm not alone in demanding regular updates including as much detail as you feel decent ;)

Best of luck with it all, don't go cracking out the foil on a first date :D
 
ok, just to put an end to this sad and soppy tale, spoke to her last night - we're going out for something to eat a week on saturday

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Good news mate - and don't go obsessing about yer addiction problems. When I started seeing my Mrs (nearly 25 years ago now) I thought it only right to confess I'd had hepatitis due to using needles 10 years earlier (I'd recently been tested and was given the all clear, so its not like she was at risk, but ya know..). I was worrying about it for weeks. When I eventually plucked up the courage to tell her, her response was 'is that all? I thought you were going to say you were gay!'. Not that either of us think there's anything wrong with being gay I hasten to add, but it just serves to illustrate that you might be surprised by her response....
 
Good news mate - and don't go obsessing about yer addiction problems. When I started seeing my Mrs (nearly 25 years ago now) I thought it only right to confess I'd had hepatitis due to using needles 10 years earlier (I'd recently been tested and was given the all clear, so its not like she was at risk, but ya know..). I was worrying about it for weeks. When I eventually plucked up the courage to tell her, her response was 'is that all? I thought you were going to say you were gay!'. Not that either of us think there's anything wrong with being gay I hasten to add, but it just serves to illustrate that you might be surprised by her response....

Cheers guys, im so made up. Today will be a good day - it feels like christmas!

To celebrate, i have 4bags of golden brown taped to the calander - todays entry reads appt. with Dr Ilxxxx (must protet the identityy of my consultant) at 14.20 at my dsp. Once they've seen and patted me on the back for yet another opiate free test (should be my fourth in a row), it normally takees them about 45 minutes for them to generate my methadone prescriptions, a couple of flubromazepam, plus a pint and a burger in wetherspoons will kill that time nicely.

Once my burgers put to bed and i have my scripts and got home, the pint and the flube should be chilling me nicely, leaving my head in an optimal state to remove the gear from the calander and toot the fuck out of it.

Now get this - once todays drug test is out of the way and ive had my 'celebratory' fix, how about giving the gear a rest untill after my 'date' - regardless of what i do im hardly going to change my physical appearance that drastically in the next 10 days, but a break off the brown just might allow me to see her without looking like a total zombie. Im even thinking of getting the mountain bike out if the weathers ok. Do i need to see a doctor? Or will it just be business as usual after i get the eventual blow out.

Ive already managed to turn my life around once. Is a second crack at it just greedy?
 
Cheers guys, im so made up. Today will be a good day - it feels like christmas!

To celebrate, i have 4bags of golden brown taped to the calander - todays entry reads appt. with Dr Ilxxxx (must protet the identityy of my consultant) at 14.20 at my dsp. Once they've seen and patted me on the back for yet another opiate free test (should be my fourth in a row), it normally takees them about 45 minutes for them to generate my methadone prescriptions, a couple of flubromazepam, plus a pint and a burger in wetherspoons will kill that time nicely.

Once my burgers put to bed and i have my scripts and got home, the pint and the flube should be chilling me nicely, leaving my head in an optimal state to remove the gear from the calander and toot the fuck out of it.

Now get this - once todays drug test is out of the way and ive had my 'celebratory' fix, how about giving the gear a rest untill after my 'date' - regardless of what i do im hardly going to change my physical appearance that drastically in the next 10 days, but a break off the brown just might allow me to see her without looking like a total zombie. Im even thinking of getting the mountain bike out if the weathers ok. Do i need to see a doctor? Or will it just be business as usual after i get the eventual blow out.

Ive already managed to turn my life around once. Is a second crack at it just greedy?

I'm not trying to be funny when i say this but You're not getting around the system. You're cheating yourself. There's people out there on the list waiting for methadone / subs maintenance. How do you expect to get clean when you're not being honest with those trying to help you?

Evey
 
I'm not trying to be funny when i say this but You're not getting around the system. You're cheating yourself. There's people out there on the list waiting for methadone / subs maintenance. How do you expect to get clean when you're not being honest with those trying to help you?

Evey

That's rich coming from someone whom is taking less than their prescribed dosage so they can get high with it..
 
I'm not trying to be funny when i say this but You're not getting around the system. You're cheating yourself. There's people out there on the list waiting for methadone / subs maintenance. How do you expect to get clean when you're not being honest with those trying to help you?

Evey

Im not trying to get clean at the moment - im on maintenance. My methadone script means that obtaining heroin is no longer an everyday concern, but despite keeping my withdrawal symptoms at bay it does nothing to quench my thirst for opiates. All it means is that i have an odd fix here and there when i have the money and time to do it.
Im not denying anyone else a service by doing this, if you have an opiate addiction in Staffordshire your guaranteed to see a prescribing doctor within 6 weeks of the initial reffferal. I had to wait that long, but it was by no means an unreasonable wait. Id say the access to such services are fairly standard across the country. Since ive gone into treatment my street heroin use has gone from every day to once a fortnight or so. Im honest with my case workers about this, but as long as i can keep giving clean samples and there is no offer of a reduction this is as far as maintenance alone will take me. Its given me some control back into my life, and seeing as i have no friends, aspirations, or any kind of a life outside of looking after my sick mother, forgive me for spending the odd 20 pounds on drugs here and there to escape from it all.

Forgive me Evey, but why do you use this forum if you dont take drugs or understand why others do. Its a complex situation, im never going to be 'clean' or 'well' on methadone, nor will i be untill i start and complete a structured reduction - and nothing i recieve from any of the local health care providers prevents others from accessing the services they need in a timely fashion. There are thousands of people who take heroin every day despite being prescribed substitute opiates - why pick on me? Im not trying to 'beat the system' - all ive done is shown a little self restraint by holding onto 4 bags of gear I bought 5 days to PASS, not CHEAT or BEAT, a drug test. My drug workers all know i still use occasionally and will contiue to do so while im dependant on methadone.
 
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what about my foolproof quick fix and long term junky fix teeth solutions :!

Total top tips mate - now my drug day is out of the way i can start sorting myself out a bit. Im going back to 2 showers a day, something i havnt bothered with sinnce i left work. My new dental routine courtesy of your reccomendations can be incorperated there. The mountain bike is coming out later if the weather holds up - im not going to go crazy - i live out in the sticks so its fairly easy to get 5 miles a day in even if your some asthmatic junky tosser like me. I have a bag of weed stashed for my weekend film sessions (Saturday - The Girl With the Dragon tattoo (fincher version) and sunday - 2001ASO). Aside from this there will be no more heroin or benzodiazepines until after ive seen her.

Yesterday was great - went perfectly to plan for once plus i spent most of the day recieving texts from a certain somone, the content largely consisting of xxxxx (im such a sap)

Thank god i didnt read Eveyvibes post last night - thought it was a bit unfair really - what a way to get at someone whos just said that they're on course for have a rare happy day
 
Stee I wasn't trying to get at you at all n I'm sincerely sorry if that's how you saw my post. I am on maintenance myself n I'm aware of how long one has to wait to get on it. I would have had to wait 3 months to see the prescribing doctor had it not been for my key worker being extremely concerned for me. Yes I wasn't doing H n never have, but other opiates, but was taking a lot of paracetamol (because my loved ones had cut off all my supplies so couldnt get the pure stuff). And if my key worker hadn't got me an appointment through a cancellation May end up dead now. So when I see people say things like "I'm going to keep clean so I can give them a clean sample n then use" it kinda annoys me because there's lots of people waiting to go on these maintenance programme n it can be a matter of life or death for most of them.

I'm sorry I was judgemental with you n I'm glad that you had a good day. I may have got you wrong n judged you too quickly n for that I'm sorry. Why would you think I'm trying to get at you? I don't come here to "get at pl." only to try. If don't don't want honesty they shouldn't put their stuff out there

As for not taking drugs I wish people would stop with saying that. Ive an issue with alcohol which is a drug, had an opiate addiction, am on suboxone n have not long come on citalopram. Last time I looked they're all drugs.

Evey
 
Stee I wasn't trying to get at you at all n I'm sincerely sorry if that's how you saw my post. I am on maintenance myself n I'm aware of how long one has to wait to get on it. I would have had to wait 3 months to see the prescribing doctor had it not been for my key worker being extremely concerned for me. Yes I wasn't doing H but was taking a lot of paracetamol (because my loved ones had cut off all my supplies sp couldnt get the pure stuff). And if my key worker hadn't got me an appointment through a cancellation May end up dead now. So when I see people say things like "I'm going to keep clean so I can give them a clean sample n then use" it kinda annoys me because there's lots of people waiting to go on these maintenance programme n it can be a matter of life or death for most of them.

I'm sorry I was judgemental with you n I'm glad that you had a good day. I may have got you wrong n judged you too quickly n for that I'm sorry. Why would you think I'm trying to get at you? I don't come here to "get at pl." only to try. If don't don't want honesty they shouldn't put their stuff out there

As for not taking drugs I wish people would stop with saying that. Ive an issue with alcohol which is a drug, had an opiate addiction, am on suboxone n have not long come on citalopram. Last time I looked they're all drugs.

Evey

How come you were taking so much paracetamol Evey? Have you had a problem with codeine and had to resort to taking shit loads of otc co codamol without the oppotunity to cwe? Im sorry if im being nosey but you referred to the fact that you had to wait 3 months to see a prescribing doctor without really specifying what the issue was (im sure it wasnt due to paracetamol abuse).

If you did have a codeine dependency then i am sorry for being so presumptuous about the waiting times with regards to service access. Of course, all patients who present with an opioid dependency should recieve an equal prioritisation on the pharmaceutical management of their case. Unfortunately, we live in the real world and smackheads tend to cause more social prolems - something the dsps obviously under pressure to address - hence the shorter waiting times for substitute prescriptions.

Im sorry for having a go at you like that, im having a rare good patch in my life at the moment and you kind of blew my high for the morning. I never believed for one second that you wernt a drug user, its just thatt you came across like a temperate from your sermonising about my personal motivations.

sorry, Stee
 
I've no problem with this thread as such, and certainly not with its creator. Nor do I begrudge him his happiness.

It does need a title change, however, because a 'Monday thread' it is most certainly not, and it's Thursday now anyway.

Maybe "I got myself a date" would do? Might seem a little self-serving, but it kind of is that sorta thread, in the nicest possible sense.
 
Im not trying to get clean at the moment - im on maintenance. My methadone script means that obtaining heroin is no longer an everyday concern, but despite keeping my withdrawal symptoms at bay it does nothing to quench my thirst for opiates. All it means is that i have an odd fix here and there when i have the money and time to do it.
Im not denying anyone else a service by doing this, if you have an opiate addiction in Staffordshire your guaranteed to see a prescribing doctor within 6 weeks of the initial reffferal. I had to wait that long, but it was by no means an unreasonable wait. Id say the access to such services are fairly standard across the country. Since ive gone into treatment my street heroin use has gone from every day to once a fortnight or so. Im honest with my case workers about this, but as long as i can keep giving clean samples and there is no offer of a reduction this is as far as maintenance alone will take me. Its given me some control back into my life, and seeing as i have no friends, aspirations, or any kind of a life outside of looking after my sick mother, forgive me for spending the odd 20 pounds on drugs here and there to escape from it all.

Forgive me Evey, but why do you use this forum if you dont take drugs or understand why others do. Its a complex situation, im never going to be 'clean' or 'well' on methadone, nor will i be untill i start and complete a structured reduction - and nothing i recieve from any of the local health care providers prevents others from accessing the services they need in a timely fashion. There are thousands of people who take heroin every day despite being prescribed substitute opiates - why pick on me? Im not trying to 'beat the system' - all ive done is shown a little self restraint by holding onto 4 bags of gear I bought 5 days to PASS, not CHEAT or BEAT, a drug test. My drug workers all know i still use occasionally and will contiue to do so while im dependant on methadone.

Just the fact you managed to buy and SAVE 4 bags of gear is significant!! Well done sir :)
 
My Gran was a psychiatric nurse for over 40 years and she told me that back in the 50s/60s her hospital kept a dedicated box of cosmetics,bathing products and hair care products etc for the female patients.

It was perceived when the female psych patients asked for that box it should be clinically noted as a milestone in their recovery/stability. As when they started taking an interest again in their often neglected hygiene/looks, this meant they were probably on their way to imminent discharge.
A very simplistic view maybe but I know from personal experience when we cut ourselves off from general life partaking you end up neglecting yourself-as what's the point? Then you end up feeling cut off and separate even more, you start to neglect yourself, that adds an extra layer of feeling like your not worth anything..and so it goes on..one layer of misery and self loathing on top of another.

Sounds like you are really going for it :Dfor this girl and I truly hope it all goes fucking brilliantly ..but if and just if it doesn't -see it as a positive anyway even though not quite the outcome you may have wanted...as yer back out there in the real interacting world..with yer non junky teeth and yer non wurzel hair do and beardy weirdy..you are fucking functioning...you are on a friggin bike FFS .

I as a fellow semi recluse in rural, cut off nowhere..spending huge amounts of my time alone and often going for weeks without even leaving the house..and bouts of drug fiending and bouts of depression and then ending up with unbrushed crazy lady Kate Bush hair and ooh 'is she wearing tights..nope she just aint shaved he legs for weeks' why bother..gaaa. I see that spiral and know it to some degree..I do happen to be lucky enough to have he most incredible tuther half..and he tries to help when 'those' times happen but it's really up to us..and you have to do it for yourself nobody else.

OR

... do it for the team...:D

I better take my own advice and go find my hairbrush.
P.S-you are gonna have the cocanut oil to make gums and teeth all lovely anyway so you may as well smother it on other bits It's naturally antibacterial and antifungal, it's an excellent moisturiser, it can penetrate hair better than other oils, and, well, it smells like cookies. LINK

You is gonna be a newish man..hopefully she aint gonna be able to resist...if she does..like I said you are out there already..realms of second chances and new beginnings and possibilities either way..<3

Have you got some sort of asperation to do the worlds first virtual gok wan on someone

keep the tips coming - i can edit them into my own program as i go along
 
I was taking 900 mg codeine a day buying the 60 mg, 15 mg tabs online, linctus, N+, anything basically that had codeine. Had a fixation with cwe once seeing it on another forum but the more n more i took n read on cwe (codeine being sensitive to heat light etc) i stopped scared id lose codeine.
Then family found out, got alk my parels, raided my house, found the supliers n td them i was addicted so i had to snean n get N+, sol max etc hence the paracetamol hence key worker getting me an emergency apt.

No need to apologise. I'm sorry i snapped at you n was quick to judge. I should have read all your posts first n I apologise for that as I've a habit of doing that. Sometimes try helping n end up doing the opposite.

Think the advice inflo gave you was good advice. Glad you had a nice day.

Evey
 
I just think if more men rubbed a bit more cocoanut oil/moisturiser on their very own selves and y'know maybe sloshed a bit of conditioner on their split ends...took time to choose a 'them' scent whether that's patchouli to Clive Christian No. 1 Pure Perfume for Men. Took just a little thought on what clothes suit them and most importantly make them feel good/confident that's not such a bad thing...

So patchouli, pomade, black leather, snug (not tight) trousers and a purposeful stride: all good, yeah? ;)
 
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