45 Hours into Heroin detox OMGGGG

[NeedHelpRightMeow]

My day marker is 1p.m. EST so it'll be 2 days in 3 hours.
I heard 72 hours is the worst.
I have the money and the means to resupply but am trying not to. Just sitting on the couch waiting for 1pm.
Last night was so bad my covers and giant body pillow and sheets kept ending up at the bottom of the bed.
I can get about 1/4th second relief every time I stretch.

My history is; I've been using Percocet for 3 years then moved to Heroin for the past 3 years which means I have not been clean for 6 years STRAIGHT!!! This is the longest I've been clean of anything in those 6 years.

This might sound silly. But I don't have a singe person to talk to about this, and have come to this forum for other reasons before.

I just need someone to talk to. Maybe even on the phone. I live in New Jersey. I don't have health insurance. I just. I just know the moment I decide and get up of this couch I know the moment I stand up with said decision, I'm going to feel instantly better. FUcked up I know.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Hey

Yeah people often say 72 hours is the worst, don't be hoping you will magically start feeling better after that time though because you might be disappointed!

If you have access to other meds there are non-opiate things that can help with a detox. At this point you're probably best off just trying to squeeze through on nothing as you are though, a few days and you could be free. Might seem like forever at this point but the reality is it aint that long! Just make sure you are keeping yourself hydrated and eat anything you feel you are able to consume and keep down. Calories and vitamins/minerals will help you more than anything else now really in terms of actually progressing the detox.

 

[herbavore]

How are you doing right now, OP?

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey your doing great. The detox off oxy will be a week. Your already about 1/3 of the way through. Nice work!!

I would go see a physician and explore the use of these medications.

medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

You got this.. freedoms just a couple days away!!

 

[Eveleivibe]

Good luck. Yoy can do it.

Evey

 

[NeedHelpRightMeow]

Heroin*. Not Oxy

It's not Oxy. It's Heroin. I love the instant support I'm getting from complete strangers.
46 minutes ago was my 48hour mark. And I know it's going to get even worse. My god this is hard. I know sleep tonight is goiong to be bad.
I wish I could have a "sponsor" of some sort. If someone is willing to call me and talk with me I will give you my phone number. I have to admit, I'm sorry. I don't think I will be able to do it. I'm watching old Disney movies to keep my spirits up but I'm so close to just heading out and getting my fix I wish someone were here to help me.
I love all you guys for talking with me and trying to help me get through this. I could almost cry at the caring nature I'm seeing. Thank you all! Thank you very much!

Hey your doing great. The detox off oxy will be a week. Your already about 1/3 of the way through. Nice work!!
I would go see a physician and explore the use of these medications.

You got this.. freedoms just a couple days away!!

 

[neversickanymore]

Sorry my brain skipped over the switched to heroin

The physical aspect of your withdrawal should not get worse then they are right now.

The half life of heroin is 2 to 6 minutes and then its transformed into morphine. The half life of morphine is around seven hours. Six times a drugs half life will give us a great estimate when its pretty much removed from the body.

So at right around 42 hours all of the drug was removed from your system so this should indicate the worst of the withdrawal has started.

Now you have about four days in the tunnel until you see the light at the end.

Those medications i listed can be very helpful with the physical symptoms.

Hot baths, sexual climax, making sure you choke down like a nutritional shake even if you have no appetite or worse making sure we arent starving as well as withdrawing, and keeping ones mind as occupied as possible.

You can do it.. nothing left back there but the misery you left and a return to the start of the rough path your making the amazing monumental effort to forge through.

Fight, Fight, Fight.. Freedoms and finding the old you is the prize!!

 

[Merka]

You have been super strong. I imagine that it is really hard to w/d alone. Maybe u have a friend u can call over and keep u company? My heart goes out to you U can co it!

 

[nygiants1313]

Hey what your doing is amazing. . Before i say what im about to say i want you to know Im not taking anything away from you but this is the easy part if you can believe it. The physical part will get better day by day and you'll slowly see the light at the end of the tunnel. Its the mental anguish that gets most addicts hence why most go back. If you dont have to work or tend to children most people can lay around In bed for a week knowing itll be over soon. It will be once this is over that the mental game ensues. You'll think that wasnt that bad i could do it again let me use once more i wont get addicted again bullshit that an addicts mind tries doing, i say this only because ive been in your shoes many times, and after reading that you have no one to talk to about this, i feel thats the most important thing you said. To stay clean YOU WILL NEED a support group. Maybe .000000000001 % can do it without a support group, but ull need people with experience to listen to you when times are tough and the cravings emerge with a vengeance. I wish you the best it is a ver very long journey 6 years is a long time. When things are tough you must remember that we fucked ourselves up for a long long time and we dont get better, in the 3 days, 3 weeks, or 3 months.

If you need to vent PM me I'll help in whichever way i can friend.

 

[foreverplur]

If you need someone to kick it with for a little bit to keep your mind off things I have hours of stories and I live in Jersey too so just message me. Good luck with everything!

 

[Carl Landrover]

This might sound silly. But I don't have a singe person to talk to about this, and have come to this forum for other reasons before.

That doesn't sound silly at all. You're not the only one who has found themselves in that type of position.

Welcome to BL! Not just how much you've browsed around here, but there are plenty of people who have gone through similar things and who have similar problems. It sounds like you're doing well, but are in a tough spot right now. Do you have anything to help aid the withdrawal (WD) symptoms? There are loads of threads on BL dealing with similar situations and plenty that have the basic run down of detox aids. Edit: Ah I see NeverSick already posted it. In addition to that list I'd recommend acetaminophen for muscle aches, magnesium supplements for muscle weakness and fatigue, and marijuana for many reasons (mood enhancement, nausea aid, help with sleep, help with pain, etc.)

Out of curiosity what was the reason for stopping?


Stay strong, good luck, and hang in there! You're doing really well so far! I'm hoping you don't relapse, but don't feel too ashamed to post about it if you do. No judging here.

 

[NeedHelpRightMeow]

I'm sorry to have wasted any of your time. And I feel terrible to say this but around 7pm last nite I gave in and went out for a fix. :.(
I just came back here and saw I had so much support just waiting to be read.
I just took a hit before coming here. 1:40 E.S.T.
I really want to kick this. I'm going to list all of the drugs I have/can get my hands on.
The nights are the worst. If there was a way to knock myself out for the night pain, I swear I could do this!!!
I feel like along with myself, I let all of you down.
If someone is willing to talk with me over the phone. Please private message me and I will reply with my cell phone number. I'm admitting right here and now; without someone to talk to over the phone, I can't do this...
List of drugs I can get.
-Valume ( If I ask my Dr. )
- Percocet ( from a friend )
-Tramadol and Lyrica I just have laying around.
-Weed ( I have a lot that a friend gave me that I never touched )

I know I let myself down, I know it. But for those of you supporting me. I'm sorry I let you down too. You guys bring me almost to tears how supportive you are to a complete stranger. PM me if there's anyone I can speak to.
I'm 29/M/NJ. My name is Michael. I'm honestly a good person at heart and I want my life back. Love you guys for trying to help me.

 

[neversickanymore]

Dont be hard on yourself.. This is already hard enough

When we don't succeed we didn't fail.. we just found a way that didn't work. So we just need to pick ourselves back up and shake the dust off and look at what went right and what went wrong. We keep and improve what went right and we change or eliminate what we need to so we don't keep hitting the same damn pothole. Acutes are shitty and the fewer times we make it partially through the better. Failing to adjust our approach is like playing Sorry against a God.. We just end up getting sorry smacked back to start over and over to face the same shit we just plodded through.

-Valume ( If I ask my Dr. )

This will work well. Its a benzodiazepine or "benzo" and is on my list. These can produce a wicked physical dependence so If I were you I would use them just for the acute withdrawal and then send them the way of the dodo as many people feel benzo withdrawals are worse then opiates and they are certainly more dangerous. If it were me I would only use them for a week and a half and then immediately taper off them.

- Percocet

Is an opiate. Many people initially place to much emphasis on individual opiates. You are actually looking to detox all opiates as they activate the same receptors, they don't all activate exactly the same ones or in the same way.

So to successfully detox opiates you will need to stop taking all of them, give your body a chance to eliminate them from the system, and then give the system a chance to readjust. By trading one opiate for another you would not be doing this.

You could try to taper with these, a beneficial taper would entail dropping your daily dose by a doable amount once every seven or eight days.

Perks (oxy) half life is between 3.2 - 4.5 compared to 1.5 to 7 for the morphine. So the length of the withdrawals would be very similar.

-Tramadol

Is an opioid as well and you will need to eventually eliminate all opiates to get where you want to be. I am also not a very big fan of this drug.

Lyrica I just have laying around.

For all the things to have laying around.. you're pretty lucky IMHO as this is one of the best medications for opiate withdrawal. For many people at the correct dose, it does well if not amazing in combating the restless legs syndrome and other things. It is also listed below.

-Weed ( I have a lot that a friend gave me that I never touched )

This seems to be an individual call.. some people swear by it.. Some people have the exact opposite reaction.

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal[/QUOTE]


Nice work.. You got this. Its a process and if we just keep learning and moving forward no matter what.. we get to where we are going no matter what.

Chin up

 

[foreverplur]

I'm sorry to have wasted any of your time. And I feel terrible to say this but around 7pm last nite I gave in and went out for a fix. :.(
I just came back here and saw I had so much support just waiting to be read.
I just took a hit before coming here. 1:40 E.S.T.
I really want to kick this. I'm going to list all of the drugs I have/can get my hands on.
The nights are the worst. If there was a way to knock myself out for the night pain, I swear I could do this!!!
I feel like along with myself, I let all of you down.
If someone is willing to talk with me over the phone. Please private message me and I will reply with my cell phone number. I'm admitting right here and now; without someone to talk to over the phone, I can't do this...
List of drugs I can get.
-Valume ( If I ask my Dr. )
- Percocet ( from a friend )
-Tramadol and Lyrica I just have laying around.
-Weed ( I have a lot that a friend gave me that I never touched )

I know I let myself down, I know it. But for those of you supporting me. I'm sorry I let you down too. You guys bring me almost to tears how supportive you are to a complete stranger. PM me if there's anyone I can speak to.
I'm 29/M/NJ. My name is Michael. I'm honestly a good person at heart and I want my life back. Love you guys for trying to help me.

As said above don't cause more stress for yourself. I can't figure out how to personal message but just message me your number and we can talk. I'm still willing to help you can do this!!!!! Love you too man.

 

[CfZrx]

Hi Meow I just went through a big taper too, and before I put the needle down I kept relapsing for a bit, but I think you will notice that the amount of time you spend relapsing and the time it takes to recover will grow shorter until one day very soon, maybe this next time when you refuse to give in anymore I'm going to bed. G'nite

 

[cj]

You didn't let us down man so you can just forget that shit right now. I know for a fact that almost everyone in this thread including myself has struggled with opiate addiction. We get it man. The I portent thing at this point is to take what ou learned from this try and apply it to your next attempt. Don't get down on yourself.

 

[nygiants1313]

Not a big deal man. Look at it like your on a diet. You had a little cheat day. Shit happens and you get back on track the next day. Feeling unbelievably guilty is what will hurt you more. As long as that chest day doesn't turn into a cheat week or month , and you are able to get back in track just brush it off. Whats done is done move on and forgive yourself . You are only human . You didnt kill anybody itll be alright

 

[NeedHelpRightMeow]

Wow. Thank you everyone for all your support! Each time I log on, I feel like you're all in my library with me, coaching me.
Special thanks to neversickanymore for all the info you gave.
I took two Lyrica for the first time ever the night before the very first post here and I felt like I was drunk, lol. I was all wrist in any attempt to grab anything with my fingers.
See they were left here from when my mother lived here ( there's about 360 of them ), and I've never touched them. Biggest problem is idk when to take them. Every 4-6hours? The directions say 1 in the morning and 3 before bed.
I'm 5'11" 180Lbs if you need that info for dosage advice.

While I need the long helpful advice from neversickanymore, I want everyone to know the smaller posts cheering me on with hope are great. For some reason withdrawl makes me so emotional ( I think I cried at a laundry commercial lastnite [ on the upside all this emotion makes music sound AMAZING ] )
But without a doubt when I sat down and started reading all your posts my eyes started to get a little red. I can NOT talk to my friends about this because I'm a great friend, but they're not. Me telling them about this will only be ammunition to bring up just about everytime we'd hang out. But you guys. You guys are complete strangers helping me through this, me, Michael. And if I had to say this in person with my voice I know I'd start crying ( because my fingers are shaking while typing ). From the bottom of my heart to each of you, thank you so very much for all of the help, love and support. I can't even begin to explain what it means to me.

 

[JadaMontega]

fight the good fight brother. Mark twain said, life is a battle between you and yourself. stay strong brother. If you want to chat on phone PM me

 

[neversickanymore]

Special thanks to neversickanymore for all the info you gave.

While I need the long helpful advice from neversickanymore, .

You bet.. I really just space it out all huge... so as I look like a force to be reckoned with.. :D

NSFW:

I took two Lyrica for the first time ever the night before the very first post here and I felt like I was drunk, lol. I was all wrist in any attempt to grab anything with my fingers.

I would make a promise to myself that In the future I would look up and understand every new substance I was going to ingest. %)

pregabalin (Rx) - Lyrica

PO means orally.

This medication works pretty well for many people, but its not a cure all so I would resist any temptation to bump the dose to try and achieve results that may not come.

Nothing yet that can make us feel perfect, but they can help a great deal.