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Using opiates as MOTIVATION

eBagger

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I think of the heroin bundles my friends got named "motivation" when I think of it

But having been addicted physically 2 years and sober for 1 1/2 years I have to say, I think I was more productive in the addicted years. I never stole or got to sketch with it, but I only quit kind of because of financial situation and addict status from unrelated matters. Well, its all related to a degree but you know, not necessarily from opiates. That and I was IVing so I was abusing, but I bet I could do small bumps a couple times a day and get back into the grove of being motivated ya digg?

I felt decent doing a bit in the morning medically to get going and a bit at night to sleep restful just using ONLY small amounts of opiates and subutex for a while. And k0osh of course.

I mean there are addicts out there that enjoy and maintain an addiction and it only adds to the value of their life am I right?

You just have to be mad careful and think mad ahead financially and physically.
 
I'd say in moderation, it can be done. However I believe that depending on any substance for motivation will be hard to maintain in the long run. Having a few methods for motivation that aren't drugs will be necessary as something to fall back on at least. For me, although not opiates, a stimulant such as meth once in awhile does boost my confidence and motivation both on and after use. When IVing it becomes harder to resist the temptation to habitually use though, as I believe IVing and smoking are the best and most addictive methods for the best high. If you feel you can manage your sober priorities, rather than fall back into an addiction, then sure. But the cravings from a physical addiction are hard and your mind better be prepared to say no before you over-indulge, making it even harder to not use. A tolerance build-up also occurs so you must keep the dosage low, even if the effects are not as desirable. At least with that, you'll feel less likely to depend on opiates for motivation and again, fall back to or find another source to keep you motivated in life.
 
I know some people that have a strong grip on themselves that can control their addiction even with oxy's and vicoden. They use it for their stress and whatnot and they take multiple week breaks and they use it responsibly without it getting to their head and becoming dependent on it. But as I said they have a STRONG grip on themselves and their life all together. And if you can fight and over power the addictive and dependent factors of opiates and you can get access to them without a legal problem then go for it man. Opiates are amazing and probably the cleanest drugs known to man. But unfortunatley most people throw their life away to them and end up doing just about anything for their next dose. If you can control that than they should definitely come to use to you. Especially if it helps you motivational- wise. For me it makes me feel as if anything is ok no matter how bad it actually is haha. And just try not to take them more than a week or two max because withdrawals are pure hell. Just make sure you have a strong grip on life and if you can control yourself even when you're numbed out your mind and you can say NO to yourself no matter what, then you can definitely take advantage of their magic, just be careful man, goodluck!
 
motivation is a word that i think someone in denial might call 'covering up pain'.

if it isn't to cover up pain, emotional or physical, one shouldn't be using strong opiates.

if one is using opiates to cover up any of the aforementioned pain, then i would consider alternatives to highly physically and psychologically addictive drugs (think hobbies, therapy, prescribed medication, spirituality, or any relatively healthier addictions...).

not trying to judge, just calling what i see, as what i see it.
 
Or it could just be something you need to do, do not want to, but need to, thus you try to find a reason to do it. Th reason being motivation. Like college, opiates may make it feel a lot better therefore you'll want to go to college. Opiates will be your motivation for college in this case. don't always assume emotional pain or trauma, you might scare someone for no reason lol. Jumping to conclusions like that is why people get paranoid that they might have cancer from a uncommon cough haha
 
if you need opiates to go to college, don't go to college.

you can quote me on that.
 
if you need opiates to go to college, don't go to college.

college can only make your life better.
Unless you are majoring in underwater basket weaving at a private liberal arts college and drawing out huge student loans
 
If I am understanding you correctly, you are considering using small amounts of heroin twice a day every day, right? I don't see how you wouldn't develop a habit doing it so frequently. Also, tolerance will develop eventually and you'll need to increase the amounts to get the same effects. If you are having cravings now (I do from time to time, even four years after my last habit), you might want to consider using kratom instead. If you haven't heard of this, it's ground leaves from a plant grown in Southeast Asia that is a mild opiate (partial agonist on the mu receptors). It's legal in all but about 3 states in the US, and people generally order it online. There is a lot of info on kratom here on BL if you use the search feature. I've been using it since the summer and it has worked well to cut the heroin cravings I was having.
 
motivation is a word that i think someone in denial might call 'covering up pain'.

if it isn't to cover up pain, emotional or physical, one shouldn't be using strong opiates.

if one is using opiates to cover up any of the aforementioned pain, then i would consider alternatives to highly physically and psychologically addictive drugs (think hobbies, therapy, prescribed medication, spirituality, or any relatively healthier addictions...).

not trying to judge, just calling what i see, as what i see it.

best reply probably 5/5

I have chronic pelvic pain that might require surgery and it flares up, and I have to say not feeling good destroys motivation but like, its tough to make the call the line between not feeling good/constant pain/discomfort and using a high end opiate.

I made an appointment with a subutex doc today and I'm gonna just tell them str8 up I have been on subutex before and I'm asking for it for chronic pain and not addiction and i've bought it illegally and used it before for the same problem and to prescribe me until I decide to what route to take. WHich probably will only need 1 appointment if I get 15-30 8mg pills, if used correctly thats like 3 months chonic pain supply ya digg

And I never mentioned heroin, whoever said heroin, and I Think said "let me get this straight" I believe as well.

Not even scrolling down to check st8 up son
 
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