First Lucid Dream Experience-Any Advice?

[kaya_9]

My first thread-I would love some input about this lucid dream experience.

I'd just like to say first that I'm interested in the community here because from what I've seen so far (heh), people on here are pretty straightforward with how they feel and what they think without personal attacks and judgement. That's pretty hard to find. Also, I can relate to all the experiences with various drug use and have my own preferences and extensive experience to share, etc. I'm not into anything but MJ anymore, but probably wouldn't be able to resist some X were it to come my way...along with something like a Clonopin..yum.

Anyway, I have had a thread on a MJ forum for some years-about spiritual growth and posted it there, but now that I have found this place want to share it here too in hopes of some advice. So it might make some references that are about what I post there..Hope it's not confusing.

And yeah, I guess it's long-but hopefully contains some insights. If not-give some. For people that don't give a shit that much about other people's dream significance..lol..skip to the bottom.

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I have another snow day...! I couldn't believe it..apparently the black ice factor..I'll take it.


I had my first lucid dream last night!!! Wow. I was ALIVE in the dream. I keep re-living the moment at the beginning where I was on something travelling ...and rolled up on the beach and saw the waves and realized- 'I'm DREAMING'...

I guess the difference is between just 'having' a dream vs. living IN the dream...I knew that you could remember them as being vivid ..etc, but not like being ALIVE in it. What a great feeling.

I have read a great deal about projection and have considered pursuing that course, with my effort and energy, but I see other areas of development are more relevant right now to what I need...being the development and understanding of the chakra system.

Anyway, I know that lucid dreaming is favorable to develop in projecting, and something interesting happened in this dream that leads me to believe-from what I've read from Monroe and Bruce-that that was about to happen if I had made a certain decision in the dream. I hope I will continue this part of the dream later.


This experience of this was pretty amazing for me. Millions of people have them all the time-but damn-it was great..haha.



I'm writing down the details mostly so I can remember them...as I think that's what you're supposed to do.......so stop reading right here if you're not particularly interested in dream details....haha...although I'm trying to put what I was realizing about the dream process at the same time if that helps any-idk..just my thoughts.


There were these people as I walked down the beach just playing and having a beach kind of time...and I could walk up and talk to them at any time...not really like real life...where you might be intruding into their world..etc. It was very tropical and the waves were huge....and bright colors. I just kept walking down the beach knowing I was alive in it. I was THERE.

I guess in projection terms it would be what is called a parallel world. Things were like Earth but just a tweak different.....There was a large building with a pier down the beach and I knew that was where I should go...so I went.

****I just had some rushes of other dreams I had about this beach when I was writing just then. Once with the rocks...and further down deserted...but with a dog...another about being in an apartment across the street and being a heroin addict and trying to get out to the beach.... and being in different situations at this area...wow..all kinds are coming...all centered around this beach.

For this one...I entered the building and went down long halls and levels and people were just hanging out...no sense of time..just being there...It was almost like I was on a film strip and it was rolling by...or on an escalator like one at the airport, that just goes straight.

After awhile I'm in this room and meet someone-never seeing this person, but only knowing his presence-as it were-like just talking to his spirit --maybe my Guide-..and I was supposed/encouraged to follow him to this other place. He was unlocking a door...and there was someone else coming too.


**This is what I was referring to about the projection...going to an entire different area.

I could tell it was going to be something I wanted to do very much, and later, I realized/was told...was a privilege. So I'm almost out the door with him, and suddenly there appears a cell phone in my hand and it's my 19 yr old son (He's in the Marines- -_-). I told the person taking me out the door I couldn't go b/c I needed to take the call and went back in the house...I was standing directly in the threshold. Then they were gone.

So shortly, my son tells me he's worried about me and asks if I'm OK...I said yes, and we talk I guess and then the phone goes away. So I kept walking.

I remember having the feeling of if I just let the dream happen without trying to direct it, then I would experience more.... Nor did I really want to direct it, but just experience it.

I met somebody- just their presence again...and they said I should have gone with him...that where he was taking me was somewhere you had to be picked to go..lol. So I felt like-well so what, but it was like if you heard a good live show was coming to town...and you missed it,,you;d be disappointed.

So I kept going through this house down the main part-and meet some kids....and then 2 of them happen to be MY students in real life...4th graders...that I teach in Reading Comp. And we start looking at these wooden panels hanging down from the air and they are painted...and I tell them that one is a totem...and that maybe we can make one in class..haha. Then the dream ends..woke up.

TL:DR *-<<<haha

I knew to immediately go over the dream in my mind before I even woke up fully-almost like running a tape in fast forward. When I woke up more, I was so happy that I was alive in a dream..I hope the rest will happen...where was I going through that door. ..?

Is there anybody that can give some advice on trying to continue it?

 

[kaya_9]

lol..well fuck all...guess nobody cares about LD here..oh well

 

[Trying2Iso]

I remember all my dreams in vivid detail but have only had 2 lucid dreams in my life.
i mostly have nightmares so it sucks. but good dreams are even worse than nightmares because i wake up pissed off that it isn't real

 

[kaya_9]

I remember all my dreams in vivid detail but have only had 2 lucid dreams in my life.
i mostly have nightmares so it sucks. but good dreams are even worse than nightmares because i wake up pissed off that it isn't real

Nightmares about what? I hear if you tell them they will stop happening...Try it...trying

Eh, I know what you mean though about the good ones..............You can also wake up feeling great that you're not really living the bad ones. I've had many post-apocalyptic dreams...and holy shit ...I'm glad when I wake up.

I've also had many dreams about ET's coming down...I'm always so happy..haha...Fuck the world of dogmatic religion...-_-

 

[ForEverAfter]

I've had many lucid dreams.
Quite often when I'm sure that I'm dreaming, I go ape-shit.
I kill (dream) people, rape (dream) people. It kind of freaks me out.
I treat my dream-state like a fully immersive GTA experience.

I'm not sure what that says about me, exactly.
When I achieve consciousness in a world without consequences, that consists only of myself, I know I can do no harm.

good dreams are even worse than nightmares because i wake up pissed off that it isn't real

I enjoy both.

 

[kaya_9]

I've had many lucid dreams.
Quite often when I'm sure that I'm dreaming, I go ape-shit.
I kill (dream) people, rape (dream) people. It kind of freaks me out.
I treat my dream-state like a fully immersive GTA experience.

I'm not sure what that says about me, exactly.
When I achieve consciousness in a world without consequences, that consists only of myself, I know I can do no harm.

Yeah...so there are some that believe when you are lucid you have entered an astral zone...not yet fully into your astral body but close...and when you are in this astral area, that you are actually affecting other beings/entities.

So from what you've said, I'm guessing you're believing it's all completely in your mind with no kind of other significance..

Are you saying you have control...or is it like mine was...where you know you're dreaming, but you just let it unfold...

I'd like to get control one day..of course...Isn't that what we all want...haha...But I've read some pretty experienced people's shit they've encountered with no doubt the astral is real.

 

[ForEverAfter]

There is a difference between lucid dreaming and astral projection. I can control everything in a dream (not just myself), if I'm sufficiently lucid. Most of the time I'm limited to controlling myself, but sometimes I can also reshape the landscape, shift from one perspective to another and puppet the dream people. The latter are, unfortunately, far and few between. But, they're pretty amazing...

I'm not affecting other beings or entities.
I'm waking up, while dreaming.

It disturbs me, considerably, when I wake up back in a consequence world having just behaved like a lunatic.

 

[rickolasnice]

Keep doing reality checks throughout the day (looking at your hand and asking yourself if you are dreaming is a good one) followed by confirmation (try to will something to happen) to make sure you're not..

Before you go to sleep ask yourself "is this a dream?" and then tell yourself "I'm dreaming"..

Every time you wake up think about dreaming and repeating those two sentences.. If you want.. wake yourself up an hour or two before you would normally get up just to do so..

Before long you'll be having lucid dreams left right and centre.

While lucid.. go for the astral projection.. if you wake up during a dream it might be worth setting a bunch of alarms to wake you up every 10 minutes.. if it works you'll go straight back into a dream telling yourself that you are dreaming, enabling a lucid state.. it that doesn't happen, you'll wake up again during the dream, vivid memory an all, to go back into the dream aware that it was a dream.. wake up.. close your eyes and remember as much of the dream you can..

It's hard to stay lucid for long without waking up to reconfirm it is a dream..

 

[Trying2Iso]

Nightmares about what? I hear if you tell them they will stop happening...Try it...trying

Eh, I know what you mean though about the good ones..............You can also wake up feeling great that you're not really living the bad ones. I've had many post-apocalyptic dreams...and holy shit ...I'm glad when I wake up.

I've also had many dreams about ET's coming down...I'm always so happy..haha...Fuck the world of dogmatic religion...-_-

my nightmares usually involve me running into one of my old friends and trying to hide so they don't see me but they do.
Or running into one of my old friends and they turn into an animal or inanimate object in front of my eyes, and i'm like "wtf Mike? you're a dog now?" super weird feeling comes from your best friend trying to lick your face after becoming a Pomeranian

 

[rickolasnice]

Stick a nicotine patch on before bed to give you mad vivid dreams.. That will also help you lucid dream.

 

[kaya_9]

There is a difference between lucid dreaming and astral projection. I can control everything in a dream (not just myself), if I'm sufficiently lucid. Most of the time I'm limited to controlling myself, but sometimes I can also reshape the landscape, shift from one perspective to another and puppet the dream people. The latter are, unfortunately, far and few between. But, they're pretty amazing...

I'm not affecting other beings or entities.
I'm waking up, while dreaming.

It disturbs me, considerably, when I wake up back in a consequence world having just behaved like a lunatic.

I have read-from people's experiences-that it is almost impossible to control a projection...and there are definitely beings there...some are willing to help...and some in the lower...are base and hostile.

Lucid was definitely awake in the dream..I think I was so surprised that I simply wanted to let it happen vs trying to control it..I guess if you have enough, that is when you feel like trying control out....?

When you started doing that shit to people in the dream, did you wake up at first? And do you suppose that the reason you do it is b/c you just want to experience freedom...it just entails freedom to not really give a shit about what you're doing...or feeling whatever you want...like you said....It is not the consequence world. Just a thought.

 

[kaya_9]

Keep doing reality checks throughout the day (looking at your hand and asking yourself if you are dreaming is a good one) followed by confirmation (try to will something to happen) to make sure you're not..

Before you go to sleep ask yourself "is this a dream?" and then tell yourself "I'm dreaming"..

Every time you wake up think about dreaming and repeating those two sentences.. If you want.. wake yourself up an hour or two before you would normally get up just to do so..

Before long you'll be having lucid dreams left right and centre.

While lucid.. go for the astral projection.. if you wake up during a dream it might be worth setting a bunch of alarms to wake you up every 10 minutes.. if it works you'll go straight back into a dream telling yourself that you are dreaming, enabling a lucid state.. it that doesn't happen, you'll wake up again during the dream, vivid memory an all, to go back into the dream aware that it was a dream.. wake up.. close your eyes and remember as much of the dream you can..

It's hard to stay lucid for long without waking up to reconfirm it is a dream..

So you're kind of training yourself (reality check) to question your experience all the time...so when you are having one...you'll be able to tell..Yes, that is what it means, I know..but that's the reason why..

I must say, I didn't really have an interest in them before this...I'd heard of course that they were intense, etc......but this was great...a completely different kind of experience to be sure... I've had quite a few on various types of hallucinogens..Lucid is just a higher level (to me) since it does not involve ingesting anything...happens by waking up a part of your brain w/o a trigger..per se

 

[kaya_9]

my nightmares usually involve me running into one of my old friends and trying to hide so they don't see me but they do.
Or running into one of my old friends and they turn into an animal or inanimate object in front of my eyes, and i'm like "wtf Mike? you're a dog now?" super weird feeling comes from your best friend trying to lick your face after becoming a Pomeranian

I think that'd be interesting to look at from Jung's point of view..haha..At least you haven't dreamt (hopefully) that you were having an intense fuck and it turned out to be Mike..or the Pomeranian licks something else

 

[kaya_9]

Stick a nicotine patch on before bed to give you mad vivid dreams.. That will also help you lucid dream.

hmmm..maybe so...but I used to smoke cigs...not about to re-introduce some nicotine..I heard there's supplements that'll help too.

 

[Journyman16]

Lucid (and Astral) are an interesting experience. If you wish to have awareness, you can learn things about yourself you may never have found without such experiences.

There are two views to what to do in Lucid. Some just say 'go for it' and they do things that would probably get them put down IRL. Others think who you are in Lucid and Astral is the beginning of defining Self.

Have a read of Robert Monroe's 3 books - you can DL them for free - they will give you an idea of why it might not be a good idea to go raping and pillaging just because you can. Apparently such people invent their own versions of Hell once they drop their body and try to move on.

 

[kaya_9]

Lucid (and Astral) are an interesting experience. If you wish to have awareness, you can learn things about yourself you may never have found without such experiences.

There are two views to what to do in Lucid. Some just say 'go for it' and they do things that would probably get them put down IRL. Others think who you are in Lucid and Astral is the beginning of defining Self.

Have a read of Robert Monroe's 3 books - you can DL them for free - they will give you an idea of why it might not be a good idea to go raping and pillaging just because you can. Apparently such people invent their own versions of Hell once they drop their body and try to move on.

Indeed. I felt like there was more in the dream...so it was why I was interested in the door and that the person was taking me somewhere completely different that was important <shrug>

Yes, I've read about phasing-Monroe-and it seems he got quite far...different dimensions/levels/existences. These experiences are connected...and lucidity is a stepping stone. That is why I suggested that it was a first stage into astral.

Frank Kepple has taken Monroe's work and added to it. Very interesting. There's a whole lot of stuff out there...but tend to respect Monroe b/c he was doing this before it was being 'sold'. Good thoughts though by Kepple here

http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

 

[rickolasnice]

So you're kind of training yourself (reality check) to question your experience all the time...so when you are having one...you'll be able to tell..Yes, that is what it means, I know..but that's the reason why..

I must say, I didn't really have an interest in them before this...I'd heard of course that they were intense, etc......but this was great...a completely different kind of experience to be sure... I've had quite a few on various types of hallucinogens..Lucid is just a higher level (to me) since it does not involve ingesting anything...happens by waking up a part of your brain w/o a trigger..per se

The reason for the reality check is so that, once it becomes instinctual (set a lil alarm for every hour to do it), you will do the reality check in your dream.. The reason for the hand is hands are always fucked up looking in dreams.. if you look at your hand in your dream during the reality check you will know you are dreaming.

You can get an app on a smartphone which will set off a chime every so often (you set the time) and give you a little "reality check" notification.. If you let that chime go off through the night and you hear it while dreaming it should hopefully cause you to do a reality check in your dream.

Another good thing to do is write down as much as you can remember of your dreams as soon as you wake up.

Once lucid try not to get too excited as that will cause you to wake up.. I've noticed as well if i start paying too much attention to detail the details fade away until there's nothing left then oops.. I'm awake.

 

[ForEverAfter]

I have read-from people's experiences-that it is almost impossible to control a projection...and there are definitely beings there...some are willing to help...and some in the lower...are base and hostile.

Lucid was definitely awake in the dream..I think I was so surprised that I simply wanted to let it happen vs trying to control it..I guess if you have enough, that is when you feel like trying control out....?

When you started doing that shit to people in the dream, did you wake up at first? And do you suppose that the reason you do it is b/c you just want to experience freedom...it just entails freedom to not really give a shit about what you're doing...or feeling whatever you want...like you said....It is not the consequence world. Just a thought.

It is best to detach from labels, when lucid dreaming.
If you believe there are definitely beings there, they will be there.
But, that doesn't mean they're actually there...

 

[Erikmen]

The reason for the reality check is so that, once it becomes instinctual (set a lil alarm for every hour to do it), you will do the reality check in your dream.. The reason for the hand is hands are always fucked up looking in dreams.. if you look at your hand in your dream during the reality check you will know you are dreaming.

You can get an app on a smartphone which will set off a chime every so often (you set the time) and give you a little "reality check" notification.. If you let that chime go off through the night and you hear it while dreaming it should hopefully cause you to do a reality check in your dream.

Another good thing to do is write down as much as you can remember of your dreams as soon as you wake up.

Once lucid try not to get too excited as that will cause you to wake up.. I've noticed as well if i start paying too much attention to detail the details fade away until there's nothing left then oops.. I'm awake.

But by doing that you would 'spoil' your best dreams and whatever was in there that made you happy because you thought it was reality.
Dreaming is something so strange and "not human" IMO as you can live an entire life in 3 minutes, literally.
I´ve set my clock quite recently to wake me up and in between minutes I had the wildest dream, it would have been impossible to live all of that in 3 minutes. So I wonder if we actually use more than the usual percentage of our brains in our dreams..
Just a wild though..

 

[rickolasnice]

More than our usual percentage? Our usual percentage is 100%.. (Obviously we're not using all of our brain all of the time.. but the "we only use 10% of our brain" is a myth)

Not sure what you mean by the first part.