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Fucked up on heroin big time. Need urgent help. Please

THECATINTHEHAT said:
I'm sure they're nicer than me=D

Not that newly then kate, four years is a little while!!! I struggle to get females to be that enthusiastic about being involved with me after four months:!=D
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LOL..You don´t really mean that..
 
I feel for you, I really do. Kinda due to go through the same hell. After recently getting totally clean after two year, and recently have the odd day with a toot. From thursday I have used and it has been very good gear although I didn't use yesterday I just slept the full day I somehow manage to do that after every little blow out, here is the thing after using thursday,friday not saturday and then using again today. Today I woke up smack was on my mind, I had restless legs, runny noes and just wanted again even know I know it was wrong. My question is what do you think tomorrows gonna hold for me? am I gonna to be rattling? I know I can get gear tomorrow I have the money and my man has very tasty gear thats why I have been smoking like the old days, but I dont want to be sick I know if I feel sick I am gonna score ....

What would yous guys do ? what do you think tomorrow holds for me ?
 
I hate restlessness. If I were you I would try to go back to soberness the soonest possible. If you did if for 2 years you can do it can. Hold tight for these next few days and it should be fine.
The cravings though are going to be awful..Methadone would also help, but you risk going back to the routine..
 
Shambles said:
I'm sure you mean that in the very best of ways but it's not entirely pleasing to suggest that addiction is purely a matter of intelligence. You do realise you just suggested vast numbers of people are simply a bit thick, yes? ;)<3
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Its like that, if "persons" does not stop it, then nobody can stop it. And she knows what heroin is, because i know she is not weak. Vast numbers die in 2 --5 years of hard heroin addiction. So she has to just try hard to get over it. I understand hardcore addiction - then we cant help at forum?
 
Right this has clearly kinda gone off of me but I'm glad if this thread can help other heroin addicts/opiate addicts or whatever.
As it stands I'm back in Paris to visit family, rather than in London where I live (for those of you who don't know me so well) so I can't use for a week. On codeine and drinking every day though so I dunno where the progress is. And frankly I've given up and I know I'll be calling my dealer up the second I step foot in St Pancras again. It's a fucking horrible knowledge but I just know it. :(
 
Pagey said:
Right this has clearly kinda gone off of me but I'm glad if this thread can help other heroin addicts/opiate addicts or whatever.
As it stands I'm back in Paris to visit family, rather than in London where I live (for those of you who don't know me so well) so I can't use for a week. On codeine and drinking every day though so I dunno where the progress is. And frankly I've given up and I know I'll be calling my dealer up the second I step foot in St Pancras again. It's a fucking horrible knowledge but I just know it. :(
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I think your honesty is to be admired here Pagey. You seem to have accepted where you are - the next step now is to turn it around. Take it a rattle is out of the question? Thought so. Perhaps you really ought to consider the local substance misuse/abuse clinic now? Once you go down that route there's no turning back so you need to be sure you can't do it yourself first - but I think the answer to that is becoming increasingly apparent. You need to get stabilised first, then you can start to tackle whatever issues have tipped you over the edge again. Whatever happens, best of luck :-)
 
Im in the same boat. Im just finishing off my last few lines and then im going cold turkey with some imodium, xanax, valium, dxm. Its going to be hell but I have to get clean and STAY CLEAN cos my misses and I are going starting a family soon so if that doesnt make me quit, well nothing will

Im always fucking up and relapsing at the drop of a hat but this time ive got a plan to stay clean, unlike the many other times. im going to try to keep myself busy with exercise, NA meetings, volunteer work, councelling, meditation and a healthy diet with plenty of vitamins and minerals. PAWS is going to be a bitch but I got myself in this mess, so I got to work to get myself out of this hell

So pagey, you have been clean for 2 years before so you can easily get clean and stay clean again for even longer. Longest ive been clean is 2 months in nearly 10 years of being an addict so dont worry about this lil relapse. Its nothing so dont sweat it and dont beat yourself up over it. We are all only human, none of us are perfect and shit happens. Keep doing what you're doing like studying etc. and you'll look back at this time in your life when you're raking in the cash as just part of the trials and tribulations of getting to where you want to be.

Life wasnt meant to be easy, so chin up and keep fighting the good fight
 
I would avoid maintenance at all costs personally. If you're still wanting to use likelihood is you'll just use on top and then you're in even more trouble. If you are confident of your ability to stop using smack and stick to a script then if a detox is totally out of the question it might make sense but it doesnt really sound like that is the case for you at the moment.

I guess only you have the answer really. Honesty is certainly a good starting point to be working from though.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
I would avoid maintenance at all costs personally. If you're still wanting to use likelihood is you'll just use on top and then you're in even more trouble. If you are confident of your ability to stop using smack and stick to a script then if a detox is totally out of the question it might make sense but it doesnt really sound like that is the case for you at the moment.

I guess only you have the answer really. Honesty is certainly a good starting point to be working from though.
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MMT is basically the last resort, when you've hit rock bottom, dont have a pot to piss in etc. From what ive read of pageys situation its definitely not an option for her. They are called the green handcuffs for a reason and stay on it long enough, youre skin will turn grey, teeth will be fucked, along with being a sweaty mess most of the time. I was only on it a few months but still suffered the worst withdrawal ever, still got withdrawal symtoms 6 months after my final dose and thats not including the PAWS. I also lost 3 teeth during my time on methadone and honestly felt like crap going to that clinic every week. The place would make anyone depressed

The bottom line is, methadone should only be used as a last resort
 
Oh yeah absolutely, even if she does go for maintenance (which I think would be totally the wrong decision) it should be bupre not green for sure.

Out of interest why is detox not an option pagey? Is that circumstantial or do you just not want to be clean at the moment? If it's circumstantial and I was you I would be doing everything I possibly could to make room for detox. As has been mentioned, long term dependancy on a long-acting opiate can be beneficial for some but it should definitely be a last resort if you have getting well anytime in the nearish future in your head. Bupe/juice is only likely to make the detox harder than smashing out a quick one from your current level of usage if possible at all, so unless you really need it to be able to cessate street opiates or stabilise your life I wouldn't be looking there at the moment. If you just don't want to be clean at the moment then it's a more difficult decision of course, but it might be worth visiting the clinic and speaking to them to see what help is available outside of a script.
 
FEDOR85 said:
They are called the green handcuffs for a reason
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I planned on being on method one for 3 months.... that was 12 years ago and I Am still on it.... anyone with a a Habit needs to do some serious thinking before getting on methodone....
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I seriously advise you not to go the drug services route as it will be on your medical records for life, and if you go to the GP they are likely to just refer you to them. Good luck, you can do it :-)
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THIS! You are clearly a clever and talented person..........................Avoid getting your medical record filled with recreational drug stuff. Will make getting insurance and stuff a pain in the tits and more expensive.

Hope you get through this and nail Uni!
 
Methadone is a killer to stop....I was on 180mg for pain management for years (pills) and dropped from 180 to 100 in 8 weeks then jumped.....to say it was tough was an understatement..... But anything in life is doable with the will to succeed..... Was fucking hard though :)
 
Stay away from professional help because it might make your insurance premiums more expensive some time down the line? Wow, this forum has really lost it's way.
 
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