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Opioids 19 days, no heroin, but on MMT

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royssjr

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Been on methadone since dec 1st, and it helped but not at first still kept using i mean 30 and 40 mg isnt shit. At 80 now and finally able to go without getting high. subs never worked, was on them 3 years, and never got this many days in a row lol, i went all november without taking one sub lol. Oh and my best friend parents are on 1,000 mgs a day combined so get 30,000 mg prescibed, in giant cought syrup bottles, liquid intensol, 10mg/ml, any ever had access to that much? Its great to shoot like 40 or 50 mg of it but stopped that too lol. Really havent done anything, its like once i got to 80, it kinda knocks me on my ass and im satisfied for once
 
Not sure exactly what your question is but in my experience methadone was a very hard and intense drug to come off of. The withdrawl lasted way longer then the H I was on it for. But some people can get a lot of benefit from the methadone and can taper off correctly. Anyways good luck hope you have a great outcome and stay on the right track n live a happy life!
 
Congrats. I'm confused about what you said your friends parents were on. No one is given 500mg of methadone a day. I think 160mg is the highest dose you can go up to.
 
Ok sorry two different topics, let me explain, im not planning on upping anytime, just glad i can finally take care of my kids and work and be there for my family rather than chase dope all damn day. And about my friends parents, yes they are on 600 and 400, through a pain management dr, get it all on one day a month like any other pill. They also get xanex, perc 30s, ms contin and dilaudid. Thing is, the methadone they get is a completely clear liquid, no thickness, just like water, tastes horrible. Becaus e of half or more than half of his intestines removed it does not absorb like a regular person so needs higher dose. Takes 100 mg like 6 times a day. Its just crazy to see like never ending unopened bottles whenever i needed to not be sick in the last 3 years. No money, just 50 to 100 mg anytime of day or night no calling just show up. Probably part of my continued addiction but the question is does any one else have any experience with that type? Its called liquid intensol. Ive been reading on these pages for years and never hear anyone talk about it. I just realized with how many hoops there are at my clinic how lucky i am to have that close of a source i guess
 
buprenorphine worked better for me than methadone but also i was in rehab when i got the bupe
i was in PHP when i got the methadone
so maybe the rehab had something to do with it
 
word of warning, have a plan to get off methadone in near future...i remember kicking methadone and it was the most prolonged withdrawal i ever went through and i topped out at 80 mgs and tapered down..the withdrawals lasted months and months...feeling like a complete zombie while at the same time anxious.....i dont think i could ever do it again
 
Yes, its only been 2 months ive been on it, and only have 19 days clean im thinking a year before i start to taper, ive done opiates for ten years and never ever stay clean more than a moth, been to rehab 5 times, i mean its a devil of a drug but it works for me for now
 
royssjr said:
Been on methadone since dec 1st, and it helped but not at first still kept using i mean 30 and 40 mg isnt shit. At 80 now and finally able to go without getting high. subs never worked, was on them 3 years, and never got this many days in a row lol, i went all november without taking one sub lol. Oh and my best friend parents are on 1,000 mgs a day combined so get 30,000 mg prescibed, in giant cought syrup bottles, liquid intensol, 10mg/ml, any ever had access to that much? Its great to shoot like 40 or 50 mg of it but stopped that too lol. Really havent done anything, its like once i got to 80, it kinda knocks me on my ass and im satisfied for once
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a 1,000mg of methadone a DAY? OMG. is that even possible, can a humans body handle that much of METHADONE, 2nd strongest opiate, only behind Fent, and above opana.

I've been in MMT for 2 1/2 years now, the first time I got there, 40mg would hold me perfectly. (I was using hydrocodone 120mg/daily/2years, oxycodone 180mg/daily/3years, both taken orally. Then moved on to smoking black tar heroin 1/2g/daily).
After all that, 6 years use of superior narcotics, (I wouldn't call hydrocodone superior, but oxycocone and heroin are def. superior opiates.) 40mg of methadone would have me stable for 24 hours. After 9 months on 40mg, I relapsed back to black tar heroin for a month, went back to MMT, and OMG, my tolerance SKY rocketed. I had to DOUBLE my dose to stay stable on methadone, ever since, ive been on 80mg of methadone today, and it holds me perfect.

I thought my dose was high at 80mg, but talking to people at the clinic, about dosing and stuff, I talked to one guy who was detoxing, he was on 130mg/daily, he was going down 2mg a week, and now he's only on 8mg!!!!!!! he still feels normal.
The highest dose ive heard at my clinic was 220mg of methadone. I was like HOLY shit. But reading this post, stating a THOUSAND mg of methadone DAILY? all I can say is, may god be with those people on those types of doses.

I'm almost 99.99% sure people like that will take methadone for the rest of their lives. Correct me if im wrong.
 
Sorry OP but nobody gets half a gram of methadone prescribed to take home. And a gram of methadone daily between two people? Really? A month's supply would be enough to kill over 1,000 opiate-naïve people. You're either full of shit, misinformed or both.
 
pinpoint said:
Sorry OP but nobody gets half a gram of methadone prescribed to take home. And a gram of methadone daily between two people? Really? A month's supply would be enough to kill over 1,000 opiate-naïve people. You're either full of shit, misinformed or both.
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That's what I said.

I don't think it's even possible for someone to dose 1,000mg of methadone even if you have a 20-30 years of heroin abuse, 1,000mg still makes no sense. 200mg-300mg will hold ANY opiate addict as of today IMO. That's even pushing it.

But a 1,000mg in a humans body, instant death.

There's a video on youtube called METHADONIA, it shows current addicts and talk about using and getting on methadone. The introduction guy, looks like he's at least in his 50's, so he's probably got a 20 year heroin habit. Yet, he stated he was playing a 'game' with a doctor saying he raised his dose up to 150-200mg, he said if you have a tolerance to methadone, chronic methadone, meaning dosing everyday, as large of a dose you have, it will NOT get him high. So he brings up BENZOS and states that benzos potentiates the methadone and makes it like a regular heroin high. Which is extremely dangerous though.

Methadone + Benzos = death (for opiate naïve people, or people with low tolerance.)

But me, ive been in MMT for 2 1/2 years, before that I was on hydrocodone, oxycodone, and smoked black tar heroin for 6+ years, so that's close to 9 years experience with opiates.
a year and a half goes by while im on MMT. I started to get very depressed, because I felt like I was stuck on a medicine that I can never get off of, so that depression made my anxiety sky rocket. Then I started using benzos off the streets. I was abusing Xanax (6-10mg/daily) or Valium (80-120mg/daily) for 6+ months.

I thought HARD about it, and got even more depressed because I was getting myself into another addiction, so I got scheduled an appointment with my pshyciatrist, told her my problem, how im already on methadone, how bad my depression/anxiety is, and I told her I was using benzos off the street because that seemed like the only way out of that depression/anxiety. So I told her, please, I don't want to go any further with these benzos, and I would love to taper down. She was super smart, and very supportive of me. She RX'd me Klonopin 1mg tabs, hydroxyzine 25mg capsules, and promethazine 25mg pills, to taper off the Xanax and valium.

My taper schedule is like this--

1st 2 weeks-
5 1/2mg Klonopin/daily
4 25mg hydroxyzine/daily
2 25mg promethazine/daily

following 2 weeks-
5mg Klonopin/daily
4 25mg hydroxyzine/daily
2 25mg promethazine/daily

2 weeks after that- (this is where I currently am)
4 1/2mg Klonopin/daily
4 25mg hydroxyzine/daily
2 25mg promethazine/daily

So basically im dropping down 1/2 a mg of Klonopin (Clonazepam) every 2 weeks.
Which is working wonders so far.....
 
pinpoint said:
Sorry OP but nobody gets half a gram of methadone prescribed to take home. And a gram of methadone daily between two people? Really? A month's supply would be enough to kill over 1,000 opiate-naïve people. You're either full of shit, misinformed or both.
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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by royssjr
Been on methadone since dec 1st, and it helped but not at first still kept using i mean 30 and 40 mg isnt shit. At 80 now and finally able to go without getting high. subs never worked, was on them 3 years, and never got this many days in a row lol, i went all november without taking one sub lol. Oh and my best friend parents are on 1,000 mgs a day combined so get 30,000 mg prescibed, in giant cought syrup bottles, liquid intensol, 10mg/ml, any ever had access to that much? Its great to shoot like 40 or 50 mg of it but stopped that too lol. Really havent done anything, its like once i got to 80, it kinda knocks me on my ass and im satisfied for once"


Methadone is already quite tough to comedown and you can easily stay with it for years. Suggest you try to lower you dose to maybe 60 mg.
 
Did anyone read or re read the post? Me im on 80 thats all, if you want pictures to prove im not full of shit, i have them. These are my best friends parents, known them for 5 years now. NOT Takehomes from clinic, this is from there dr, both are terminally ill, well one is, and other is sverely physically disabled. The dad, gets 600mg a day, mom gets 400. This is not a joke or bullshit, and ive been reading hear for 5 years, and never have seen this discussed, so thats why i bring it up now, i have not seen many discuss this, and if they have, its a friend of a friend or some shit. These are 8oz bottles, with a cap on them you have to put the kind of syringe that unscrews in it and turn it upside down to draw the methadone out. Im not here for people to tell me im on 80 thats too much whatever thats another topic i guess. Does anyone else have firsthand experience with liquid methadone intensol, the small bottles he used to get were glass, with a 1ml dropper attatched to it, and made by roxanne i believe. Now, since the pharmicist, which is a compound pharmacy, just puts all his prescription in 80z cough syrup looking bottles. I dont know how to post pics but i sure can find out. I know its crazy, and have been wanting to put this out there for years and just now getting to it, since im bored all day now, not running the streets getting high and browsing here
 
And yes, they are on it for life, been on 30 years already no plan of getting off. The mom is on her last leg, kidney failure due to some infection that causes hallucinations all the time and i doubt she makes it another year, 2 at most, ive seen her go through intense problems for 5 years now and they can help her, so thats why i think their dr is just giving them what they want. Like i said, they also get 2 or 3 xanex a day, valium, oxy, dilaudid and opana. Tons of other non narcotic meds too, phenagran, neurontin all that. And the dad, who is on 600, said the only thing that has ever worked wonders for a methadone detox at those levels for him is lomotil, swears by it, and after trying it i do too for wd. I guess its simaler to loperimide or whatever immodium is right?
 
And did you guys read where i said he doesnt dose it all at once, ill get a pic. It says, 6x a day, 100mg for him and her, 200mg 2x a day. I mainly just wanted to post my first thread and get started but as I was posting I thought about putting that in there now I wish I could change the title to 600 milligrams a day or 1000 milligrams a day to see how many people would weigh in on this
 
Welcome to bluelight. A lot of people don't read posts properly. Possibly because they're scattered or a bit intoxicated themselves. What your saying is remarkable though, I've never heard of anyone being on that kind of dose but I'm not doubting you as I'm no expert. I know when people are terminaly ill doctors just try and make them comfortable with whatever they can. When my mother past away that's what they did but with morphine. She was on such a high dose that she was asleep for the last few days of her life. I doubt your friend's mum and dad would be able to function very well would they?
 
Erikmen said:
That's more likely getting high on Mdone IMO
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Not really.

Being a chronic methadone user, meaning a person who doses methadone everyday, don't get 'high'.
When you first start methadone, you will feel high for a good 2 weeks to a month. After that, you just start feeling normal.

That statement is with experience, ive been in MMT for 2 1/2 years, after the 1st month, you don't get high.
You can get high adding benzos to the mix, but that's very dangerous.
Another way to get high on methadone, is when you raise your dose.

Example, if someone was on 100mg/daily for a year, and wants to raise his dose, lets say he gets another 20mg, to make it 120mg, then youll get high for another 2-4 weeks. After that, back to being normal.
That's how I experienced it.

I know someone on 260mg, and he doesn't get high on it, because he's been on mmt for a long time.

So yeah, the only ways to get high on methadone are-

1. Dose Raise

2. Adding Benzos
 
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