Fucked up on heroin big time. Need urgent help. Please

[Erikmen]

Perfect!

 

[koneko]

Thinking of you Pagey, your strong and young with a lovely fiancée to support you, you'll get through this

 

[blondin]

Firstly unless it was #4 im v surprised you got high let alone wd's as the BA of snorting B is very low as its base and not water soluble so is very hard to get absorbed - te very few times i did it i just got a blocked nose and felt nothing in fact it was on a train and 6 hours later i stated to witdrawer but thats by the by.

There are a number of options,,as pointed out, if it were me i would keep taking gear just at a level to keep wd's at bay , to get thro' the next week/s then think about getting off. I don't know if you could pull a week sickie (probably not with exams) te options have all been gone through, clonadine and lofexadine don't really nail it and only help a little plus the BP effects are nasty and would make it V hard to work. Its amazing how little gear you need to stay 'well' as long as you have the self controll. Methadone is an option and is easily done if you have none in yer system; a 2 week taper from it is very doable with hardly any bad after effects , maybe a touch of PAWS but as you have only used for a short time it shouldn't be much of an issue.
The main thing is to be comfortable when taking yer exams - which ever route you take

 

[pjd555]

Hi
I don't think you need buprenorphine, methadone or clonidine. The period of time, estimated amount and route of administration mean that your withdrawal symptoms are magnified for another reason and it is in the second line of your post. You are stressed and quite probably depressed and for a week gained relief by taking some heroin. See your doctor about how you were feeling a week ago because that is how you are going to be feeling in a couple of day's time. It's up to you whether you talk about the mini binge on heroin. It isn't important and you could just as easily tell the doctor you have been hitting the bottle a bit too much. You are young and feeling unable to cope. You felt that way before you went on your extended lost weekend and that is what you need help with. Avoid taking any more opiates because one day becomes two days and then three and suddenly you are 40 and it is what identifies you. That isn't who you want to be.

 

[Urbain]

Oh, pagey. I'm so sorry to hear your having such a hard time.

I'm afraid there's not much I can say in words of advice, as I've never been down this road, but I do wish you all the best, and I hope you stay strong and positive. The one thing I've learnt from all my years on Bluelight, is that EADD can truly be a wonderful source of moral support, so take full advantage of the fact that there are genuine people here who do care about you.

All the best,

X

 

[Sammy G]

Firstly unless it was #4 im v surprised you got high let alone wd's as the BA of snorting B is very low as its base and not water soluble so is very hard to get absorbed - te very few times i did it i just got a blocked nose and felt nothing in fact it was on a train and 6 hours later i stated to witdrawer but thats by the by.

Many people do snort brown, and it's just as addictive as any other ROA. Your experience is irrelevant in the context of the thread; it happens, and it's happened here.

Can't add much to what Julie and others have already offered. I'm trying to stay away from the stuff for good, but it keeps on pulling me in. It does that.

Be strong.

 

[blondin]

Many people do snort brown, and it's just as addictive as any other ROA. Your experience is irrelevant in the context of the thread; it happens, and it's happened here.

Can't add much to what Julie and others have already offered. I'm trying to stay away from the stuff for good, but it keeps on pulling me in. It does that.

Be strong.

No they don't - as usual you are just trying to provoke an argument and its not irrelevent as i pointed out the ba is extemely low thus only a small amout is being used therefore the wd's would not be as strong.
Now go away and stop being and arse.

 

[Sammy G]

No they don't - as usual you are just trying to provoke an argument and its not irrelevent as i pointed out the ba is extemely low thus only a small amout is being used therefore the wd's would not be as strong.
Now go away and stop being and arse.

Are you six years old?

Basically, Pagey has a problem. She doesn't need a load of waffle about how you never got off on sniffing heroin, she needs constructive advice and support. That's all I'm trying to point out.

Grow up.

 

[BecomingJulie]

Kids, play nicely. You really aren't helping Pagey, with your pointless wiggling your willies about.

 

[Sammy G]

I don't see much wrong with my first post tbh, but if that's somehow seen as 'willy-wiggling', then I'll happily butt out of this thread and scratch my head in bemusement.

 

[pjd555]

If anyone is close to the OP and has a way to contact her please reach out and check she is OK. Don't report back here and breach a personal confidence but try to stop her feeling isolated just by reaching out. Her age and gender means the risk of her doing anything silly is low but, in the interests of harm reduction, it is would be a nice thing to do. The binge is a red herring but it happened for a reason. If it were a man of that age I would be greatly troubled.

 

[subotai]

best option - suboxone
alternatives - more heroin, other opiate full agonists

worst option -

If you can get hold of any meth (any gear dealer who uses probably will be on a prescription, and anyone who is scripted and using probably will have accumulated a stash of green for Just In Case), that might be better; but don't take meth before an interview if you aren't used to it.

dont do meth to cover up heroin withdrawals, no idea how that sounds reasonable

id tend to agree with blondin though

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Sorry to hear that Pagey, you were doing so well. Your life certainly isn't ruined though, you're too young for that!

I don't really have a lot specific to add, people have pretty much covered it with maintenance/treatment options. If you wanna chat to another recovering (kind of) junky then feel free to drop a msg though.

 

[BecomingJulie]

worst option -
dont do meth to cover up heroin withdrawals, no idea how that sounds reasonable

Um ..... Because it's a long half-life, full µ-receptor agonist? Same reasons why The Authorities prescribe it for that purpose, really.

And note, I did qualify it, with a big fat "if you aren't used to it". No way would I recommend some random stranger to go taking green when they'd never had it before. But I hope you could see from the content of my post that I wasn't addressing it to some random stranger, but to somebody with whose situation I had at least a measure of familiarity.

So, I stand by my original advice, and would be curious to know why you think buprenorphine / naloxone (a partial agonist, and capable of causing precipitated withdrawals even under close medical supervision) or more heroin are reasonable in this situation but not methadone.

 

[blondin]

If you could get a few 100 mg's of methadone then a two week taper would be my advice - it really is quite an easy ride maybe a few val's at the end if your having trouble sleeping - if you want a schedule Pm me and let me know how much gear your takin.

Just reread your post - you were on .3 and you stopped a week ago? then you really should be well past the worst of it - try and exercise and eat good food, sounds to me like you have headgames messin you about rather than physical issues - be strong you can definitly get thro' this, and I say this as someone who has been in your position many times ie a week of wd's.

 

[Pagey]

Hey everyone,

I've read through all the messages carefully and a number of times and gotta say this thread and all of your help is probably what got me through the worst of it. That and I'm lucky enough to live near a pharmacy that sells codeine linctus so I could take about a gram of pure liquid codeine a day and that eased the WDs off quite a bit.

I'm defintely passed the worst of it physically. There were a couple days of really bad flu and vomiting - I get disproportionally bad WDs, Shambles can testify as he was there a lot when I quit a couple years ago after being on it for just a year...
So the main issue I need help with is psychological and not relapsing because my dealer is stupidly good and lives right near by and I am not in a good place in my life at the minute. I don't want to get on methadone, I've heard too many horror stories. Can't do clononidine as I get convulsive syncopes and that would literally be the worst possible med in the world for me.
Bupe would be my first choice but to get put on a script don't they test that you're currently on gear? Cuz it would've left my system by now...

Again, really appreciate the responses and the few supportive PMs I got as well. Got a bunch of weed I'll probably be using for the last of the physical stuff these next couple of days.

Also can I just really quickly say blondin, I don't know what kind it was but snorting 0.1g got me nodding for 5 hours the first time and I'm in no way a first time user, so I appreciate Sammy G's defending me - I know you're trying to help but it really does devaluate what I'm saying and kinda makes me feel worse frankly. Fact of the matter is no matter what this gear was snorting it sent me flying and in ridiculous WDs (and yes I do know what ridiculous gear WDs are) and that's that.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

If you're through the worst of the wd fuck any maintenance off for sure, don't go on bupe. If you're really struggling maybe have a few promethazine and see if you can just sleep it off.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Hey, did you manage to make your interview? Glad to hear you're over the worst, but hope you're not just bashing the linctus as a substitute. Getting your head and uni work sorted is you're priority now. Good luck, I'm sure you'll do well...

 

[Pagey]

^Yeah, got the MA in Publishing at UCL. Somehow. So that's something at least.

But I got more gear a couple hours ago and snorted about 0.3 at once. I'm really falling back in guys, this is it. I'm scared. I've let my fiancé down, I've let myself down.
I did it because my landlord (who's a complete socio/psychopath) threated to call his solicitor and the police on me if my fiancé kept coming round TWO WEEKENDS A MONTH. Nowhere in the contract does it stipulate that's not allowed. Anyway, I panicked, and I'm back on it now. Yay.

Fuck guys. I don't want to be a smackhead again

 

[Whosajiggawaaa]

^Yeah, got the MA in Publishing at UCL. Somehow. So that's something at least.

But I got more gear a couple hours ago and snorted about 0.3 at once. I'm really falling back in guys, this is it. I'm scared. I've let my fiancé down, I've let myself down.
I did it because my landlord (who's a complete socio/psychopath) threated to call his solicitor and the police on me if my fiancé kept coming round TWO WEEKENDS A MONTH. Nowhere in the contract does it stipulate that's not allowed. Anyway, I panicked, and I'm back on it now. Yay.

Fuck guys. I don't want to be a smackhead again

That is not a very compelling reason to use. Just saying.