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the amount of heroin testimony in "The Dark Side"

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I just can't help but notice most of these dark side stories originate from opiate addiction/ccessation. I just think anybody intending to dabble in that oh so tempting devil should first be referred here. I think it's safe to say, opiates are the most* addictive class. I'm aware that my previous statement is simply my observation, I mean that opiates have the biggest "hook" to them. the INITIAL potential for addiction is so ridiculous. would most of BL agree with me ?
 
I agree with you about how there are a lot of threads about opiates on BL, specifically TDS, because that's usually where folks come to get sober. There are others, however, that try to get sober from other drugs such as meth, benzos, etc. If you poke around in the archives I'm sure you can find some stuff :)
 
thanks, yeah I see other ones. BUT those opie ones seem to carry a certain hopelessness to them. benzos are a tough one too. but I envy stimulant addicts for those easy withdrawals. just a CONSIDERABLE amount of tradge-dope.
 
I can't disagree too much, I guess it's all about preference. I guess what I'm saying is from MY experience, which may be absolutely unique, opiates are the hardest to, "leave behind you" you know what I mean?
 
I believe crack is the most rapidly addictive but heroin is the Worst addiction. It stays with you for life
 
Opiates have such a wide reach between prescription pain killers and heroin.

Meth seems to be just as addicting, but it's only reached certain parts of the country. There are people who use in the northeast and there have been a few explosions from unsafe meth labs, but for the most part it's not around. It's almost like a subculture of the drug subculture. Meanwhile heroin and pain pills are big here in the NE, and they've only gotten more popular in the last 15 years.
 
I think the addictiveness of a substance is going to depend on the person. I've heard some people say nicotine is the most addictive substance. I don't like tobacco at all, so I can't really relate to that statement.

I've smoked crack, shot coke, and while I've never shot coke while drunk/with alcohol I have sniffed coke a number of times after/with drinking. Also smoked crack with alcohol. I'd still take a shot of smack over all those. Though throwing some coke into the dope shot would improve it.


The big problem with opiates is the difficult physical WDs that accompany dependency. A lot of the threads on here regarding heroin mainly focus on how to deal with the physical WDs.
 
Thats totally true.

I believe percentage wise nicotine is the most addictive substance.

Im sure it may happen, but Im not sure I have heard anyone say they became addicted to opiates in one shot or one hit.

I have heard a bunch of people say that they became addicted in one base hit or one iv dose of coke.

@ erik.. I do not feel that an opiate addiction will last any longer then anyother addiction.

As Carl states its an individual exspierience. We are driven and can exspierience an addictive drive at times durring our entire lives towards what ever drug we are addicted to.
 
Honestly it depends on the person.

I can't say what the most addictive substance is for each person, because everyone's brain is "wired" differently. Opiates and benzodiazepines are my DOC, but stimulants make me freak out. Another person may only want stimulants and opiates may make them freak out. It depends on each persons unique brain structure and preference.
 
I feel especially sorry for people hooked on combos. I hear kicking IV speedball (heroin and meth/coke) is worse than burning alive,
 
aq. said:
honestly it depends on the person.



I can't say what the most addictive substance is for each person, because everyone's brain is "wired" differently. Opiates and benzodiazepines are my doc, but stimulants make me freak out. Another person may only want stimulants and opiates may make them freak out. It depends on each persons unique brain structure and preference.
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amen!
 
i guess the worse is poly addiction. People who is hooked on i.v. meth and heroin, and then use massive doses of long duration benzodiazepines mixed with ketamine to sleep have the worse time quitting

(is this un-topable or can some other substance be added to the mix to make matters worse?)
 
I have been listening to an online conference on addiction for the past four days, several hours each day. There are lots of speakers from lots of different walks of life. What I have liked most about the conference is that it goes way beyond drug use/drug addiction and into all the unhealthy ways we obsess about everything from money to looks to outside approval to shopping and junk food. Drug addiction is terrible because it is life threatening, it is usually illegal and it is quite dramatic in the way it robs a person of their sense of self; but if a person gets off all drugs and does nothing to change their relationship with themselves that recovery alone will soon feel hollow.

I believe that there is only one way to stop craving what is unhealthy--whether it is drugs or overspending or gambling or overeating or fill-in-the-blank--and that is to face whatever it is in you that is causing so much pain and to make your life about one thing: healing yourself. We are all mind/body/spirit living beings. We live in a culture that denies this in calculated and unconscious ways, every waking minute of our lives. We are taught to focus on external approval, external fixes, external rewards. Is it any wonder that drug addiction is epidemic? People want to be free of all this pain. Drugs work pretty damn well for that. For a while. But what is the real need under the need for drugs? It's pretty basic. We all want to be loved and recognized for who we really are. We want to feel connection. How can you be loved for who you are when you cannot yourself love who you are?

I agree with whoever said that "the most addictive drug" is whatever someone is addicted to. But the picture is so much bigger than one person and their DOC.
 
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