Bali Nine Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran to be executed together in Bal

It simply reeks of colonial superiority for Australia to try and over ride Indonesian courts sovereignty. For a country that prides itself on democracy, it is a little rich for the views of a majority of 300 million Indonesians to be dismissed as barbaric

Personally I do not support capital punishment due to the incidences of innocent men being wrongly killed in the past. In this case the two were proven to be guilty ring leaders and consistency in their laws mean they would face the death penalty
 
In Sweden, I believe - they did hand out Heroin to junkies (diamorphine pharm) - it had a better success rate than those that tried to quit Heroine with methadone


Yeah send the SAS to get them out

In Canada as well
 
it is barbaric. They need to step into 20 15 if they want a better success rate at finding drugs moving across their country because what they are doing doesn't help it at all. Even then that;s the totally wrong way to look at it as pointed out, should be focused on harm reduction and all drugs legal and clean

Aussie government tipped them out about the H iirc so they kinda already put the nail in the coffin way back then
 
It is estimated that there are 4.5million drug addicts in Indonesia. Almost the same as half the population of Sweden.


so legal heroin in Sweden or lax drug laws Vs. High illegal heroin and drug laws in Indonesia..

who has the better rates

I am sure most of it is meth . i wouldn't to travel to Asia because a failed drug test can be enough proof for them as possession
 
It is estimated that there are 4.5million drug addicts in Indonesia. Almost the same as half the population of Sweden.

True, although there seems to be less of a percentage of addicts in Sweden. Or maybe not if you include snus and drinking.
 
Absolutely, probably the best one in the world, along with Finland and Norway.
 
It really works, as everyone pays too much taxes. Maybe more than any other place..
You have this 'net' system where the Government gets you if you fall or fail in different areas.
 
Actually if they did it smart - it wouldn't cost much money to bank the addicts with clean drugs, help&information. if they stopped locking users up, they could spend that $ on that.. Ppl wouldn't commit crime for the drugs now if good ones are supplied

If cigarettes and alcohol were made illegal tomorrow, its price would go up about 1000% and so would crime



It really works, as everyone pays too much taxes. Maybe more than any other place..
You have this 'net' system where the Government gets you if you fall or fail in different areas.

Yeah i agree it is good& the top. insurance-free health care is also just as good in a lot of other countries too
 
Yes, I believe Canada is a good example too. I don't think we can say th same about US though- unfortunately..

Good point about cigarettes and alcohol- of course..
 
Bali Nine execution: Plans underway to move Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran from Bali to an island jail in Central Java

PLANS are under way to move Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran from Bali to an island jail in Central Java in ominous signs their execution is imminent.

The Justice and Human Rights Minister has instructed his staff in Bali to arrange the move to Nusa Kambangan island jail, close to the remote execution site and where those facing Indonesian firing squads spend their final days.

Momock Bambang Samiarso, head of Bali prosecutors office, said on Thursday he received a letter from Jakarta ordering the two Australians be moved, but there was so far no date for the move or for the executions.

“So they will be moved soon,” Mr Samiarso said.

Asked if the transfer could be this week, he said: “Soon. As soon as possible.”

The news came after a meeting in Bali attended by officials from the Justice Ministry, the prosecutor’s office, the Governor of Bali and staff from Garuda Airlines and Bali airport.

The move came amid a bipartisan call from Australia for Indonesia to treat the condemned Bali Nine duo as they would their own citizens.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop on Thursday told Parliament the Indonesian government was fighting to save up to 360 of its citizens on foreign death rows — including about 230 on drugs charges.

Ms Bishop asked for mercy to be extended to Chan and Sukumaran, who have been told they face the firing squad within the month.

“The Government stands resolutely with both families,” Ms Bishop said, in her strongest public statement so far on the case.

http://www.news.com.au/world/bali-n...-in-central-java/story-fndir2ev-1227217644819
 
Bali nine duo to be transferred to Indonesia's Alcatraz

Bali nine ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran could be transferred as early as Friday to the penal island dubbed "Indonesia's Alcatraz" ahead of their executions.

The order to transfer the men from Bali's Kerobokan prison had been made by the justice minister's office on Wednesday.

Attorney General HM Prasetyo has said the location will be Nusakambangan Island, off the coast of Java.

However, no date had been set.

"It is not possible today, but soon, as soon as possible. We don't have a target. The sooner the better," the head of Bali prosecutor's office, Momock BambangSamiarso said after a meeting with airport and Garuda representatives to coordinate the transfer.

The men will fly to Yogyakarta on a commercial flight and then be driven for about five hours to Cilacap, where they will catch a ferry to Nusakambangan Island, which is home to several maximum security prisons.

It was on a field on Nusakambangan Island that five drug felons were shot dead on January 18.

However, lawyers for Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran say they are still very much alive and there is still hope they may stay that way.

The lawyers filed an application in the administrative court in Jakarta on Wednesday seeking a stay in the executions, which are scheduled for this month.

In a statement, lawyers Julian McMahon and Michael O'Connell say there has been a "serious error of law" and the two men have been denied natural justice.

They say the law requires President Joko Widodo to have thoroughly considered the clemency applications.

Instead, the statement says, Mr Joko and other government officials have made it "absolutely clear" that all clemency pleas for drug felons will be rejected as a matter of policy.

"President Joko Widodo and Attorney General Prasetyo have repeatedly claimed that other countries must respect Indonesian law," the lawyers said. "It is now time for them to do the same."

The statement said the administrative court challenge was not "some half-baked last-minute measure" but raised genuine substantive issues of fairness and justice. "Moreover, it would constitute a grave miscarriage of justice for the executions to proceed before the court could determine whether the decision to refuse clemency was in accordance with the law."

The news of the transfer comes as Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop made an impassioned speech to Parliament on Wednesday.

"Our shared hope is that the Indonesian Government and its people will show mercy to Andrew and Myuran," she said.

"Australia and Indonesia work in partnership to address drug-related crime at all levels. No country has done as much as Australia to support Indonesia in this area. Not only is there co-operation between our police and law enforcement authorities, but Australia also supports drug rehabilitation and harm-reduction programs in Indonesia. These programs have saved Indonesian lives."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-ni...d-to-indonesias-alcatraz-20150212-13d9p9.html
 
Bali Nine execution: Plans underway to move Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran from Bali to an island jail in Central Java

A SUPREME Court judge who launched a private crusade for clemency for drug smugglers Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran has vowed never to return to Bali.

Justice Lex Lasry said last night he was leaving Bali for the last time having again visited the death row duo at Kerobokan prison.

Justice Lasry, who represented Van Nguyen - the last Australian man to be executed overseas in Singapore in December 2005 - visited Chan and Sukumuran twice this week.

It was believed to be his second trip to Bali this year.

“Leaving Bali tonight. Never coming back,” he tweeted last night.

Justice Lasry has refused requests to speak to the News Corp about his views but has turned to his 1300 Twitter followers in his campaign to spare the lives of the Bali nine ringleaders.

He also appeared on ABC’s 7.30 on Wednesday and earlier this month spoke at a vigil for the pair at Fed Square.

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http://www.news.com.au/world/bali-n...-in-central-java/story-fndir2ev-1227217644819
 
Risk and Reward. If you seek the reward, you must accept the risk. The illegality of drugs creates a motive for the seller, it is mainly a hinderance to the user.

I feel sorry that these people will die, yes. But I understand that we all make choices in life, and that one must accept the responsibility of ones actions. I know that killing these people will not stop the flow of drugs, or make any change in the world. However I have accepted responsibility for my actions, and expect others to do so as well.

dude you are a soul-less person. my god what the hell is wrong with you?? NO ONE SHOULD DIE FOR HAVING A FREAKING SUBSTANCE ON THEIR PERSON. What is wrong with you man? your a satanic person.. i can't believe your even on this forum babbling nonsense like you are.
 
Bali nine executions: Meet the nine others on Indonesia’s death row

JOINING Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran in the next, imminent round of execution by firing squad are nine others — four Indonesians and five foreigners. Paul Toohey asks: who are these death-row candidates and what are their crimes?

Martin Anderson, alias Belo, a Ghanaian national, has had it rougher than any of the others. He was sentenced to death by a Jakarta court in June 2004 for possessing 50 grams of heroin — worth, in current terms, about $2500. There have been no appeals on his behalf except by Amnesty. Ghana has no consular representation in Indonesia — its closest office is its high commission in Malaysia.

A Ghanaian consular officer in Malaysia said that to his knowledge, no Ghanaian official had visited Anderson in prison since his arrest 11 years ago. “We are still working on it,” he said. The officer said he had been approached by someone from Amnesty’s Indonesian office about Anderson last week. “But when he was arrested in 2004, it could be he may not be from Ghana,” said the officer. “It could be he is a person from another country using a false passport.”

President Francois Hollande has been active — but ineffective — on behalf of Serge Areski Atlaoui, 51, a French national and married father of four, who had his 2006 life sentence upgraded to death in 2007. Like all Indonesia’s death-row drug candidates, President Widodo rejected Atlaoui’s clemency appeal in January. He was convicted of running an ecstasy factory in the Banten Province of West Java. He has always pleaded his innocence.

The only woman on the list, Mary Jane Fiesta Veloso, 30, a Filipino migrant worker, has also spent the shortest time on death row. The Sleman District Court sentenced her to death in October 2010 for bringing 2.6kg of heroin into Jogjakarta from Malaysia earlier the same year. According to reports from Manila, President Benigno Aquino III did not raise Veloso’s case during President Joko Widodo’s just-concluded state visit to the Philippines, where both leaders agreed to strengthen efforts in the war on drugs. Veloso, who comes from a poor rural family, was a courier for a major international syndicate.

When Marco Archer was shot dead after midnight on July 18, in the first tranche of 2015 executions, it spelled disaster for Rodrigo Gularte, a fellow Brazilian national on death row. Gularte was sentenced to death in 2005 after being caught smuggling 19kg of heroin through the international airport in Banten province. Brazilian President Dilma Roussell recalled her ambassador to Indonesia after Archer’s death. He has since returned to Jakarta to continue what the Brazilian Embassy in Canberra says have been “dozens of efforts” on behalf of both men.

Three Indonesian men, Syofial (alias Iyen bin Azwar), Harun bin Ajis and Sargawi (alias Ali bin Sanusi), are the only people among the 11 who will die for non drug-related crimes. According to Amnesty International and other reports, they were sentenced to death in the Bangko District Court in November 2001 for the premeditated murder (accompanied by rape and theft) of seven family members of an indigenous Kubu tribe in Jambi Province, on the east coast of Sumatra.

The other Indonesian in the group, Zainal Abidin, from Palembang in south Sumatra, had his 2001 life sentence upgraded that same year to death for his role in smuggling 58.7kg of marijuana on the well-travelled Aceh-to-Java dope smuggling route. Indonesian authorities at the time of his arrest were cracking down on the marijuana trade, believing the proceeds from sales were being used to fund the Free Aceh Movement of north Sumatra.

Raheem Agbaje Salami, a Nigerian (who was initially wrongly said to have come from Spain) spent five years believing that he would one day be released. He had been sentenced, in 1999, to a life term by the Surabaya District Court in East Java for bringing 5.3kg of heroin through Surabaya airport. In 2006, however, the Supreme Court His upgraded his sentence to death. There has been little reporting of his approaching execution in mainstream Nigerian media, but Nigeria summoned Indonesia’s high commissioner to express “huge disappointment” after Indonesia wrongly said two Nigerians had been shot in the first round of executions in January. It turned out only one Nigerian, Daniel Enemuo, was executed.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/b...nesias-death-row/story-fnh81fz8-1227218463598
 
Australians may boycott Indonesia if Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran are executed: Julie Bishop

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has warned Australians may be moved to boycott Indonesia as a holiday destination if the executions of Australian men Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran go ahead.

Authorities in Indonesia are finalising plans to move Chan and Sukumaran from Bali to their execution place on a prison island off Java, however a date for the transfer is yet to be determined.

Ms Bishop on Friday described the situation as "tense" as the execution of two drug smugglers loomed in Indonesia.

Speaking on radio, Ms Bishop warned Australians may be be moved to boycott Indonesia if the executions go ahead.

"I think the Australian people will demonstrate their deep disapproval of this action, including by making decisions about where they wish to holiday," she said.

The Bali nine ringleaders were sentenced to death in 2006 for trying to smuggle heroin into Australia.

Ms Bishop has been asking for clemency for the pair and says their execution will not solve the drug scourge in Indonesia.

She says the government will leave no stone unturned in its bid to secure a stay on the Bali Nine members' executions.

"Executing these two young men will not solve the drug scourge in Indonesia," she told Fairfax radio on Friday.

"It's a very tense situation."

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...re-executed-julie-bishop-20150213-13e5lp.html
 
Surely these men do not deserve to die for moving one pharmacological substance, which is used in medicine, from one place to another place?

O Draconian Devil!
 
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