Dose of adderall to feel euphoria?

[maddiemax]

So I just got a script for addys... I tried to take them for studying.... they work i guess, i don't know, they're really not amazing in my opinion. i could take them or leave them. don't see what all the hype is ...

the only thing i really like about them is that i am less shy on them. i have bipolar type II so I'm very familiar with mania symptoms, from all my research i thought adderall would be very similar but all i feel is just a tad more energetic (elevated heart rate, cotton mouth, & loss of appetite i noticed too), but the only mental difference i feel between this and drinking an energy drink is feeling more focused but i don't really feel that much of a difference

although considering the hype there is, I've concluded i must be doing something wrong

maybe my doses are wrong?? i took 20mg over about 3 hours... I've never taken amphetamines before. do people normally get euphoric on this dose? at what dose would i really start to feel something?

 

[Dresden]

90 to 120 mg IR. If you have XR, be sure to chew them up thoroughly before swallowing until all the little beads are gone. If you take XR without doing that, you can not really expect much of a euphoric state without resorting to taking even larger (much larger) doses.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

wtf 90-120mg to feel euphoria? You must have a tolerance because I achieved euphoria off of 15mg. maddiemax try taking 20mg all at once not over 3 hours, the more you spread out the dose the less effective it will be.

 

[Alex000]

Do try dosing at once, however a dose of 10 mg IR (and even less, really) should have someone feeling pretty good with no tolerance to amphetamines. Depending on your initial larger dose, if I recall correctly, a little bit of a break, even from that, might be in order (just 5 days to a week, or so) in order to get you to a nice baseline level. Remember, good mindset and good setting. It is possible that you are looking to hard for the euphoria, or expecting amphetamine to be something it is not. Go into it, after a break, expecting nothing in particular - just good result - and see how that goes with a dose of 10 to 15 mg IR.

 

[CosmicG]

Adderal was the first drug I ever got "high" on. I was a freshman in high school and took sixty milligrams IR while waiting for the bus after being told by my best friend they would make me super smart. Lol

 

[maddiemax]

I think the problem is that my body is having difficulty digesting them. I shallow IR whole and then later when I went to the bathroom I saw a whole pill in the toilet (I know, so gross!)

I was wondering if crushing them and putting the powder in a little water would work better? Because I did 40mg the other day and I didn't feel overly euphoric, also maybe I have a natural tolerance? I've been told by doctors that I have bipolar disorder (I thought because of that I would be more sensitive to amphetamines though..)

What I really notice about the adderall that I love is it kills my appetite!!! But it's not making me feel overly euphoric...

 

[Kilfer]

Because I did 40mg the other day and I didn't feel overly euphoric, also maybe I have a natural tolerance? I've been told by doctors that I have bipolar disorder (I thought because of that I would be more sensitive to amphetamines though..)

I have BPD Type II as well. During hypomanic phases the brain's neurochemistry replicates many of the positive effects of a therapeutic amount of amphetamine but few if any of its most unpleasant negative effects. Some neurologists think that Bipolar II is likely to predispose patients to display a natural tolerance to amphetamine stimulants that leaves them unable to respond positively to treatment while leaving them fully exposed to undesirable peripheral side effects which are either not present or subdued during hypomania.

Psychiatrists don't seem to have a settled opinion on the matter other than a tendency to favor methylphenidate over amphetamine when a stimulant is required for a patient with BD2. The beneficial effects of Ritalin do not seem to be affected by any natural tolerance BP2 patients may have. I can vouch for that, Adderal only brings me the effects of physical overstimulation. While Ritalin only causes very modest euphoria, which is normal, it still brings the focus-oriented mental stimulation both of these drugs are supposed to procure.

Since both stimulants achieve mental stimulation mainly through their dopaninergic activity one can speculate that *if* a natural tolerance is in cause with amphetamine then it is perhaps interfering with the response to dopamine releasers while re-uptaking remains unaffected. Weirder stuff has happened.

 

[maddiemax]

I was thinking that -- a natural tolerance to amphetamines because of the BPD. So, are you saying that Ritalin may be more effective? Now that I've tried Adderall a few times I do think it's effective in helping me focus. Adderall, unlike hypomania though, makes me feel sort of like a zombie if I'm not doing anything. I will space out and stare at walls unless I'm doing homework or cleaning & be perfectly content with staring at walls. Though I think it's an absolute waste to take Adderall so that I am satisfied with staring at walls, so I always make sure I am doing something productive.

The main negative side effect with Adderall (beside the comedown depression) is that I am pretty tiredrom my research, I find that abnormal & a little troubling. I took around 30mg IR yesterday and could fall asleep if I tried. I was yawning 40 minutes after ingesting the drug!! From my research, I find that abnormal & a little troubling. My reaction to Adderall I think looks more similar to an ADHD patient's reaction. Maybe it's the BPD? I do really think though I have some natural tolerance because from what I've read 30mg is a pretty high dose for a complete newbie (and I did start out at 5mg then 10mg but took more because I wasn't feeling anything -- and this isn't gaining tolerance).

Maybe I'll look into Ritalin then. I just find my reaction to Adderall to be rather atypical given my bipolar diagnosis which really makes me wonder if I actually have BPD. I was expecting 30mg of Adderall to trigger a manic state and possibly induce psychosis (that's why I started out at only 5mg & worked my way up). This whole experience with Adderall really makes me question if I'm bipolar because of the fact that I'm not manic or even hypomanic when the Adderall is wearing off or even when the Adderall is peaking.

I do think it's really weird though how I can easily fall asleep an hour after taking a moderate dose of an extremely powerful stimulant... Certainly that's not typical of a bipolar person...

 

[spemat]

I have bipolar I disorder (manic with psychotic features) and ADHD and I am prescribed 90 mg/day... I have been on 120 in the past too. it is quite common for both problems to happen. I am calmer on Adderall or Dexedrine but an SSRI would have me manic in 3 days.

My last manic episode was 2007 but mine lasted for 1.5-2 years that time. My doctor is being an Adderall Nazi so I have to switch back to two 30 mg XR and 1 30 mg IR but I have had both of these issues since I started getting manic in the summers at age 6 or 7. (Was Dexedrine). If you mood is stable, you should be fine.

Some days if I have a lot left over from the previous month I can take 8-10 a day and be fine... other times 1 broken up into quarters is all I need.

 

[maddiemax]

Thanks spemat! So my reaction isn't that abnormal? SSRIs have made me very hypomanic in the past so I thought Adderall would too. I think the depresson be my biggest problem though, I've always had more problems with depression than hypomania. Do you have problems with the depression aspect of bipolar when you are coming off of adderall? Or do you not have a comedown because you constantly take it?