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Xanax, self esteem and relaxation (please read, would mean a lot to me)

cassius14

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- I mormally procrsatinate things or let them build up and get very anxious
- Doctor gave me AD that helpe with anxiety but not procrastinating
- On xanax, I get shit done, whether its cleaning my room, or being extremely patient/calm about things (im generally fairly wired up guy. On xanax I even have desires to do my uni work, and even take up hobbies like drwang painting and thatda shit. I decided to write it all down while under influence of xanax (about 3-4 mg tops) '
- The day after my ibiza binge my confidence, energy and ability to relax does to the toilet, mind you Ive only had 3-4mg of xanax in my entire life

My question is it possible to just always be this productive without having to take xanax? To some degree, because of past learned haviours while on xanax I forced myself to do sober but it wasnt quite right and much easier tasks. Any idea guys?
 
Yes it's possible . Remember if you develop a xanax habit, it only hinders you from being productive in life imO. I TAKE 1 mg of xanax daily and this is for maintenance only. I'm not happy that I have developed this reliance.
 
You have a shit doctor who should have you in proper cognitive therapy instead of fucking you up with Xanax.
 
OP never mentioned having a doctor. Xanax works great for anxiety my doctor prescribes me .5 mgs three times a day no questions asked and life has never been better. I guess that's your opinion though Nero thanks for sharing. Xanax is great for social anxiety and panic in general.
IME no I can't be me without Xanax but is it impossible to have confidence without it? Of course not. Therapy may help you immensely if you are open to the idea Cassius.
 
I struggled with anxiety as it continually worsened. It got to the point where I saw a doctor or 10.

Eventually after trying a bunch of stuff off label for anxiety I got a rx for Klonopin.

For me it worked out pretty well. I was able to go to college (I had dropped out due to frequent panic attacks) and date.

My dose is very high and it is kind of irrelevant to this thread. It does suck to be dependent on a narcotic prescription but the pros outweigh the cons in my situation.

Now that I have a much better view of myself and a far better understanding of the world I might fair ok without Klonopin. I still would rather not find out after being on the stuff over 1/3rd of my life or basically my entire adult life for the most part.
 
whatever its ur life. I see dopemaster on everything around here. whys that?
 
Yes it's possible . Remember if you develop a xanax habit, it only hinders you from being productive in life imO. I TAKE 1 mg of xanax daily and this is for maintenance only. I'm not happy that I have developed this reliance.

Xanax can really be tricky to be discarded later.
 
I find it particularly very difficult to quit benzo as it involves you day to day activities, thinking, and even the logic you apply to things. Some people who are actually shy start to feel confident and by taking that out everything you have acquired would actually go away too. That´s why you need to do this with a doctor or with a program in which you feel stronger and positive.[
Good luck!!
 
Are you rich?

Nope. I am not making much money atm. I spent all the money I had on college.

I work in design as an artist for my own company. I should be making more money soon.

I have had decent 9 to 5's doing manual labor, but I always wanted to do more than just manual labor and to get an education.

As far as getting medication, I go to a doctor.

Everything I have done for a living is in my profile if you are really interested.

As part of my ambassador position I check out new posts and respond to them and give links to various parts of the site and answer any questions that people are new to the site might have.

I haven't had a computer for quite some time, so I was just helping out a bit more.
 
Everything I have reas in the replies seems pretty on point. Ill keep my response brief but hopefully it helps.

Having very bad anxiety my whole life has manifested in many ways. Lack of motivation, intestinal issues, social issues, appetite issues, etc. its even cost me a job that i was the #1 employee at before.

During college my anxiety was mainly in the form of panic attacks that made my appetite disappear and sometimes made me vomit in the mornings for a solid hour straight. The moment I told the doc i was medicating with marijuana they threw like 3 benzo prescriptions at me. I had never done a benzo in my life at that point. My main med was xanax much like yourself.

For a while I thought I had found The love child of Neils Bohr and Jesus Christ in the form of a pill. But Im sure you know quite well all about that.

I still have a few RXs for xanax and klonopin which i use occasionally when needed but to really address your post/question directly: I had to do a shit ton of self realization and self discovery in order to have the benzo mindset while sober. For me personally it mainly boiled down to self esteem.

Once i realized a lot of my anxiety was due to low self esteem as well as the reasons it was so low in the first place, I was able to start making some extreme mental and life changes.

Everyone is different and the human brain is definitely one of the most complex and interesting things in existence that we know of. Life... seems to be the only thing in the known universe that flows AGAINST entropy and that in itself gives me a reason to live and a reason to learn about myself and my surroundings.

I wont try to give you some personal self help advice beyond what I have already written, I normally dont like to preach. The trick for me was very pavlovian. I conditioned my brain over time to "feel good" when performing tasks and/or dealing with everyday life that I normally would have not addressed. Doing homework sucks as does waking up at 6 AM for work five days a week but by somehow making it enjoyable by setting "fun goals" to do after the boring shit, Im able to do the boring shit and also not take benzos more than 2 or 3 times a month. (Obviously i occasionally binge recreationally or use em if i need to come down from stimulant usaage. )

Best wishes to you. All in all if you need a small daily dose of xanax or klonopin or a similar benzo for a while to get you through life successfully then do not be afraid to do it. Your happiness health and success are what matters.

Okay so that wasn't really brief at all. I tend to do that from time to time -___-
 
I to had panic attacks which would induce vomiting and feeling sick to my stomach.

I also got light headed, dizzy, and passed out sometimes.

For me I really had to get on benzodiazpines. I did try other medications first to try not go straight to narcotics but stuff written off label such as anti-depressants only seemed to make things worse. I tried pretty much every psych med off label because I was so young and the first place I went to had a no benzo policy.

I did not have access to the best medical care and I really had to be direct with my doctors about what worked and what did not. I had many shrinks write me off as a drug seeker and drop me as a patient. Whenever that happened I went to my regular doctor and now my regular doctor writes my prescription. I saw no need for any other psych meds so I refuse to take medication I do not need which is a right.

Remember you always have the right to refuse unnessary medical treatment and that little phrase doctors will take seriously when you tell them the likes of paxil or seroquel do not work for you. The exact wording is "I have the right to refuse unnesecary medical treatment" so pretty much an any situation even if somone is trying to get you in an ambulance will work unless you are a danger to yourself or others.
 
If you are gonna commit to taking benzos, make sure you got a doctor that is down with long-term prescriptions. Something i failed to do. I go in to see the doc and get my refill, and the nurse says it ain't happening. You've been on these for over 2 years and they are only meant for short term. Cut me off just like that. I've been through withdraws before, but nothing could have prepared me for benzo wds. Worst time of my life.
 
If you are gonna commit to taking benzos, make sure you got a doctor that is down with long-term prescriptions. Something i failed to do. I go in to see the doc and get my refill, and the nurse says it ain't happening. You've been on these for over 2 years and they are only meant for short term. Cut me off just like that. I've been through withdraws before, but nothing could have prepared me for benzo wds. Worst time of my life.

This seems illegal and really irresponsible on their part. They should have at least tapered you unless you were abusing them and then they refused to help you. I could not see a doctor just saying no more at all after two years of prescribing a benzo, since that would put you in a life threatening condition.
 
Nope. I am not making much money atm. I spent all the money I had on college.

I work in design as an artist for my own company. I should be making more money soon.

I have had decent 9 to 5's doing manual labor, but I always wanted to do more than just manual labor and to get an education.

As far as getting medication, I go to a doctor.

Everything I have done for a living is in my profile if you are really interested.

As part of my ambassador position I check out new posts and respond to them and give links to various parts of the site and answer any questions that people are new to the site might have.

I haven't had a computer for quite some time, so I was just helping out a bit more.


i wouldn't worry about explaining yourself to some random antagonizer. i post a lot too and it's because i enjoy it, and helping people. if someone has anything to say about it... well, that's great, i don't care, lol
 
I spent 3 years on 4mgs Xanax a day. The productivity wears off with regular use. I did exactly what you are saying about learned behaviors...I took all the good habits I had while on Xanax with me when I quit. But then again I doubt you me or anyone is such a fuck up in life they NEED 4mgs a day. It just makes things easier while you're on them, and if that's what you want to do everyone should have that right.

Besides just changing behavior patterns I can't really think of any natural ways to achieve the same feeling as Xanax. But if you're talking about other medications...I recommend Klonopin. ;)
 
^^actually, I thought it was a classy way to handle an obvious attempt to provoke you into an exchange of insults that has nothing to do with OPs original question. Kept the thread on track rather than diverging into some irrelevant nonsense.
 
First all, you guys really REALLY helped me. I don’t think you understand the amount of times I’ve wanted to off myself but the responses here are very very encouraging. I don’t want to keep taking medications just so I can stop feeling lonely or killing myself, I want to vent these out. I got a bit of an essay to read so I apologise in advance, I also apologise if I sound weak or spoilt, these are bad traits but I want to fix and that I hate myself and nobody else really gets me they just say get over it, or psychologists just smile and nod and keep reinforcing methods that don’t seem to address the issue directly.

It makes sense anxiety linked to self esteem, anxiety is cased when we thnk we lose control and if we think we have then isnt it quicker to xanax than to actually take control (eg. procrastination)

I just hate those days when you wake up feeling like _utter_ shit, like I'd like to neck myself now; or the lack of sleep completely aggrevates the whole situation. my (other) doctor wouldnt give me a few days of valium to help me sleep before final exams. I normally used to jump out of my bed happily and go along with my routine before any of this which is why Im making such a big deal.
To give you a basic idea of how I was, I used to always take pictures out with friends smiling, happy, hanging out but for some reason I simply just don’t bother, I feel too meh about it.

a few years ago if I was stressed out antidepressants or benzos never crossed my mind. I'd spend upto 2 hours a day, 6 days a week (yes im serious) at the gym and i would walk like smeone just injected me with morphine it felt so, good, this took me approx 4 years oto
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now when I go, I dont feel so good, no motivation, depresses/sad, I get anxious and want to leave early, or I "feel tired (Started taking energy drinks to give me a kick) but that either did nothing to my depression and still leave early, or if I was anxious feel that i HAVE to leave went gym because I had things to do; in that case i made it worse). I am rarely getting those nice, enjoyable gym highs which one I used to get. I either arrive at the gym depressed, indifferent or anxious. Cardio is not much of an option I have huge injury on my leg.

to give you a better idea, while on xanax im more likely to read a whole variety of topics on the internet (mostly medical journals), chat to my friends more, and even buy the odd thing here and there (mind you we are talking about stuff on sale nothing expensive)

I am studying alone broad (go to and from uni by myself) at the moment, so this aggrevated my anxiety but i thought it was a good opportunity to crush my anxiety as well. Interesting note: I actually love going to lectures generally, I love what Im learning and theres people around me like me. The first semester was horrible, I basically locked myself in my room didn’t speak anyone but paid pretty good attention in class; mood was only good in class, not anywhere else.

I always put off hanging out with the college societies. with the guys in the dorm they often invite me out for drinks (but they're like 20, im 26) and from im told they think im funny as hell, the girls arent so welcoming and quite bitchy, but some added me on facebook and havent said a word to me, or very brief in the conversation ??. I'm studying on exchange in ireland for a year btw, originally from Australia.
All the guys here all have close nit cliques and groups, go over teach others dorm etc. and im jealous for them (but not in a spiteful way)- I don’t have that close of friendship really as much anymore especially in Australia; and if I do, I see them rarely.
I have made an effort now to say hello to everyone I meet, and If I have seen them a few times I make chit chat not really sure where to go from there unfortunately, any tips?
I feel a billion better times if someone told me that more or less people like me there and enjoy my company

in a lecture theatre? picking up with to randoms is a huge confidence booster for me (if I knew how to do it lol)

but at night clubs I knew what I am doing much more, ironically Ive been getting time goes on Ive become far worse at approaching girls. probably because of all this bad shit thats happened to me in the past 18 months. I used to never be clingy, attached or emotional and you can say that on a big part completely flipped over, it takes a lot of self control to hold back (usually by speaking to several girls at once)—now I get attached VERY easily and if I’m feeling down straight away I want to be with someone, it never got this desperate usually gym and stuff worked perfectly keeping my mind away from feeling lonely.

why does benzos (at least temporarily) make us so much more confident? or interested in reading in depth topics (I had 14 pages of pubmed open)- I could never mimic that kind of commitment or concentration sober]

I dont want to take any meds full stop, I want to somehow condition the confidence, ambition, motivation, determination, productivity etc. that seems to come with xanax. I've even gone as to far as to considering going on it for a day and write down what I do on it so I can have a better idea, albiet you get the episodic amnesia on xanax!

Sometimes I am overwhelmed that i can't just for a walk, uni or gym, I literally just feel like crawling up in bed watching movies which I am miserable half the time but avoids external responsibilities that are piling up. Even when I try to do something relaxing like lie in the sun or swim, again I feel uneasy and uncomfortable.

also my sleeping habits taking a huge kick in the nuts, ive been told aside from the obvious no electronics before bed (even though all my magazine subscriptions are on ipad!), and to _always_ wake up the same time. The biggest problem of this is I find it hard to sleep to begin with, especially If I go just to lie down, I normally put a movie on I doze off. but that usually limits me to 6 hours sleep by the time afternoon roles around I feel totally exhausted, like want to crawl in bed die ant not even at least do _some_ study but Ill wake up super early and try toss and turn all night, and I’m way too restless to try and read.
I have considered just starting my day the moment i wake up and I cant sleep and just duke it out- what do you guys think? Or take a xanny and go back to sleep? Most my classes start late and I train early in the morning like 7

-I find CBT not helpful (eg. focus on 5 senses)-t it just seemed too weak, mindfullness I realised I do already in a good mood (admiring architecture and such, but in a bad mood my mind is racing and I cant seem to slow down and look around me, gym feels far more effective if I focus on the exercise


-heavy gym session works great but I work my ass to the bone (albiet recently as I said I don't stick around for long so I dont feel good after)- when I force myself to stick around I feel even more tired, even more sad!
I started taking anabolic steroids a few months ago to push the boundies and my body exploded in size, in a good mood I want to mix up my routine and progress but on a bad day I just go there monotonously rather than a winter attitude;…….and meditation I have tried a few times but found it very frustrating, it takes the edge off but only maybe 20% tops.

I find myself glued to social media a lot, I like reading what my friends are up to (funny videos, pictures, and keep in touch by saying hello) and I regularly use my fb too. But if people aren’t replying (especially if its read) it bothers me a little bit- if I am anxious ‘ll always be checking it, but if I was like yesterday and just stressed out/busy I didn’t even notice facebook

I think this is important most the talking/chatting I do day to day conversational rather than; lets meet there is via sms or fb inbox

I one thing is that I LOVE meeting new people especially simular like me, im not a very clique person I like to hang around all kinda groups. I’m not really shy at all meeting people, that rubs some people the wrong way.


- I have bought some books on CBT, anxiety etc but again ironically, I hold off reading them, procrastination, anxiety

I have considered starting a private journal every day to give me insight day to day?

There is SO many things I want to do while under the influence of Xanax or had a great day, Ive designed my own shirts which people ask where they can buy it ( and im studying to a medical doctor, go figure), redecorate my room, make more money, completely redesign my gym work out, draw, even grow flowers, sketch, read novels (which I haven’t done nearly for a decade), I like to be extremely thorough with all my work, cook huge savoury meals. If I am merely contempt not happy or sad, I have no interest in doing the above at all. But they seem like great hobbies but then I lose interest after Xanax wears off, where the hell does all this come from?

But the times when I feel down I cannot do any of the above AT all, should I just force myself to do It anyway?—Most this stuff (including this post) I do from my bed. I was told use bed strictly for reading before you go to bed, and to sleep which makes sense.

from what my friends have told me to, I find it very hard to concentrate and easily distracted when I study if that helps? I’m always distracted about when is the next party, even though I’m in my third year of medicine at university and if others are going I feel uneasy not going.

I am a very wild happy, hugging, lovey guy when drunk or even even the few times I've tried drugs. Not a violent or angry bone in my body

My parents make me feel like utter shit I buy something (literally, anything), but they can be extremely supportive and helpful at times.

I have been put on a number of different anti-depressants; its like they take the extreme happiness away, but also the negative/lonely/odd suicidal thought away.

diet is very clean btw, oats, fruit/vegetables, meats, vitamin b6, coffee kept to a minimum and fish oils

Some girls if I lose (because im not interested in them, or I was too slow to make a move, or like in the case of my ex)- all whom I more less not the best, some of them are moving on much happier and again that makes me extremely like shit (but, happy for them! I don’t wish ill on them in any way). I cant have that “oh fuck that bitch” kinda mentality, If I wasn’t so much of a dick I’d probably still have her. I’m 27 In May and had a “girlfriend” on and off for 6 months topped, I always avoided relationships like the plague and girls which I never called her my girlfriend to any of my friends until we broke up, rarely put photos of us up together. And now If I feel lonely or shitty I’ll go chat up several girls and burn time with them. I’ll even go as to far as to manipulate them to like me because I feel alone, sometimes it blows up In my face and I end up falling for her. I know this sounds pathetic and the answer seems obvious in the answer but I need to vent this, I haven’t told a soul and I don’t know of if its normal or out of place and I feel ashamed telling anyone this.

To a strong degree I love helping people, whether I hate them or don’t know them at all I will give them my left kidney if they needed it

silly question, do you guys that no fap thing works?

are guy guys saying in a nutshell: you can't change the way you feel right now, but you can change the way you react right now? –ei. Don’t wait till the next morning, get on it right now?

Anyone who works hard at a goal an be anything, I don’t believe in intelligence. I can learn anything if I put my mind to it (and I was coming last most subjects in high school), Ive done finance/law before medicine, this is technically my 4th degree ad my university hired me to tutor them so that sounds all nice and dandy on paper right? but I have literally social/emotional control/self esteem/street smart, self control of a stapler. At school I didn’t even kiss a girl till I turned 18 in university.

Now, im the life of any party, always cracking jokes, everyone loves traveling with me around Europe or just local night clubs; ill happily approach a group of girls and talk and that slowly faded away, but its coming back. The one thing gnawing at the back of my mind is what people are thinking of me, what if I’m loud, what if I put something ridiculous on fb that nobody gets? Its extreme insecurity that manifests into anxiety.

The few friends who know even some of these details say to me; I never would of guessed, you look so successful and happy on the outside and like that youre having fun (ie. Fb photos).

Again thanks for reading guys, it means a lot to me. It really does. Ive tried telling a psychiatrist, GP, psychologist, even friends and all of this just flies over them they just fire pills at me, or give me some inane vague answer like “it’ll be alright” and its “no big deal”

ps. cousinskeeter @cousinskeeter could you elaborate more please?
 
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