need help to get off heroin

[siirblazealot]

I've been snorting heroin for the past 6months. It's ruined my life. I've lost my family, I'm always broke and now I'm on the verge of not being able to be in my daughters life.

I have access to some suboxone strips. I have two 8mg strips stashed away for withdrawals when i can't get dope .

I've read on this forum about people using 2or3 strips to get past the "worst" part of the withdrawals. Then quitting completely.

My question is how should i go about this.
I'm snorting 20$-30$ worth of heroin everyday.

What would be the best way to use a few suboxone strips to help me better my situation. I have to be able to go to work and function still. My last dose of dope was about an hour ago i snorted a 30$ bag of dope.

Any input will help me out at this point . I also have access to xanax if that helps. Thanks everyone.

 

[mostly-human]

I have no idea how much heroin you're taking based on how much it costs you, I'm from Australia, the amount of money you're spending a day wouldn't buy you half a hit over here. Anyway, you shouldn't be mentioning prices, but you seriously couldn't be buying that much dope for that amount, so I'm going to assume you're not taking huge daily amounts.

That said, daily use of any amount for 6 months is going to give you a bad time.

16mg of sub is plenty to do a rapid taper with and it is surprisingly effective in terms of beating the worst of the withdrawals.

However, beating the WD is not the hardest part, the hardest part is not relapsing after day 4 or 5, once you start feeling a bit better, you go from being determined to beat the demon to feeling bored with a whole bunch of nervous energy. Not to mention depressed and generally anxious.

You may also want to consider going onto an actual program - suboxone or methadone - these are far more effective than detoxes, in terms of staying clean, these programs allow you time to actually restructure your life so it doesn't revolve around copping dope. A quick 7-day detox or what-have you won't do anything to actually break the cycle.

Anyway, goodluck.

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey blaze and welcome to BL :D

Here are some medications to explore to help with the withdrawls.

medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

You can do this!!

 

[siirblazealot]

I have no idea how much heroin you're taking based on how much it costs you, I'm from Australia, the amount of money you're spending a day wouldn't buy you half a hit over here. Anyway, you shouldn't be mentioning prices, but you seriously couldn't be buying that much dope for that amount, so I'm going to assume you're not taking huge daily amounts.

That said, daily use of any amount for 6 months is going to give you a bad time.

16mg of sub is plenty to do a rapid taper with and it is surprisingly effective in terms of beating the worst of the withdrawals.

However, beating the WD is not the hardest part, the hardest part is not relapsing after day 4 or 5, once you start feeling a bit better, you go from being determined to beat the demon to feeling bored with a whole bunch of nervous energy. Not to mention depressed and generally anxious.

You may also want to consider going onto an actual program - suboxone or methadone - these are far more effective than detoxes, in terms of staying clean, these programs allow you time to actually restructure your life so it doesn't revolve around copping dope. A quick 7-day detox or what-have you won't do anything to actually break the cycle.

Anyway, goodluck.

I have a really good connect that i went to school and grew up with.. I'm from the east coast and the h here is pretty decent I get anywhere from 0.6 to 0.7 for 30.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

Thing is, a few isn't going to better your situation. Sure, it'll help you through the worst part of withdrawals, but then what?

1) Are you going to invest in a maint program? Will you continue on subx, or try methadone? Will you wing it cold turkey?

2) Do you have emotional triggers that cause you to use? If so, will you avoid them?

3) Are you willing to totally change your life? Will you delete contact numbers, avoid people who use, etc.

Many, many of us have been there, some of us still struggle, I know I do.

I wish you well in your journey. Your daughter is worth it!

 

[mostly-human]

Thing is, a few isn't going to better your situation. Sure, it'll help you through the worst part of withdrawals, but then what?

1) Are you going to invest in a maint program? Will you continue on subx, or try methadone? Will you wing it cold turkey?

2) Do you have emotional triggers that cause you to use? If so, will you avoid them?

3) Are you willing to totally change your life? Will you delete contact numbers, avoid people who use, etc.

Many, many of us have been there, some of us still struggle, I know I do.

I wish you well in your journey. Your daughter is worth it!

All this.. I can't tell you the amount of times I've smashed it out cold-turkey, gone through fucking hell for a few days, only to be straight back on the gear within the same week.. And I tell you, if you start cycling like that - detoxing CT every 2-3 weeks, it takes it's toll worse than if you're just using!!! It's all these things above that are important, it's a lifestyle change, not a detox, otherwise the odds say you won't succeed, sad, but those are the statistics. I do wish you very good luck. I'm currently on day-9 coming off a combo off heroin/methadone (alternating between them) - and I'm struggling.

 

[siirblazealot]

Thanks for the replies guys! Its really nice to talk to people who have been through the same thing and know that you're going through.

Today was day 1 and it was hell. Not physically but mentally. I knew it was too early to start the subs so my dumbass went out and got a 20$ bag.

This was from someone I've never messed with before and boy did i mess up. I snorted the whole thing thinking it would be just enough to keep me well, but i was wrong. It must have been cut with fet because within 20 minutes i was nodded out, woke up and was puking my guts out. It was horrible and i never want to feel like that again. I really thought i OD'd. I waited it out and then it was just a real intense high for about 6-7 hours .

This experience is enough for me to be done. My sister is prescribed suboxone and is willing to help me get off the dope. Tomorrow i will take nothing. I'll keep busy at work. Then at night I'll take a few xanax to help me sleep. Tuesday morning i will start the subs.

What dose of the suboxone should i take Tuesday morning to start with? I dont want a buzz from it i just want to feel normal for work.

Thanks for everyone's support and and input: positive or negative

--BlaZe

 

[mostly-human]

This was from someone I've never messed with before and boy did i mess up. I snorted the whole thing thinking it would be just enough to keep me well, but i was wrong. It must have been cut with fet because within 20 minutes i was nodded out, woke up and was puking my guts out. It was horrible and i never want to feel like that again. I really thought i OD'd. I waited it out and then it was just a real intense high for about 6-7 hours .

Don't take offence at this, not saying your regular supply was shit, but you probably just got onto strong dope, that's what happens. The average purity of street heroin is very low, people who get 'good stuff' are often getting around ~20% (obviously this varies wildy on many factors, but as an example). There's a huge amount of room for the same weight you usually take to actually be 3-4 times your regular dose.

Heroin overdose is an incredibly unpleasant feeling. I've OD'd a few times. Once off as little as 50mg of near-pure heroin, even though I had a habit at the time

I doubt it was fent, because you said there was an intense high for 6-7 hours, fent simply doesn't last that long, not anywhere near that. Honestly, this is what happens to dope addicts, you get used to one source, change sources and suddenly you can accidentally be adjusting your dose by an order of 2-5 times your regular dose. For people getting shit gear, they maybe find their dose increases 10 fold.

What dose of the suboxone should i take Tuesday morning to start with? I dont want a buzz from it i just want to feel normal for work.

--BlaZe

I'd suggest starting at 4mg, you can easily increase your dose if it doesn't hold, it's a very long-acting opioid and you won't waste your initial dose at all if you redose a few hours later, in fact, some people prefer to take sub maint doses split throughout the day, rather than at once.

You'll probably find for the first couple days, you'll feel shit, but able to go to work and such, then after day 3 or so, you'll feel a lot better and after about a week you'll almost just feel normal/sober all the time.