Heroin A question about plugging, new to heroin...

[El_Truthio]

Okay for my own reasons, i've decided to try heroin. I am well experienced in all types of psychedelics, cannabis and MDMA but i have little experience with opiates. I obtained a gram of #3 of what is supposedly very good quality, via the darknet. On the forums of the website it had reviews and one poster said lab tests came back at 85% purity i think it was. Any way i have no doubt of the quality of the gear.

So far i've tried smoking, snorting and plugging it. Smoking it does work but i'm not very satisfied with it, i'll smoke 25-30mg off foil and it basically makes me feel warm and kinda itchy for an hour then when i stand up i have to throw up. I know #3 isn't water soluable and thus not very suited for snorting but a lot of posters here have said that snorting #3 does work, i tried it but found the taste/feel of the powder to be very unpleasant and didn't get any high from it.

Now the other day i got a 5ml oral syringe and cooked up about 25mg with about 3ml of water and some ascorbic acid to make it dissolve, i then lubed up, inserted about 2 inches in and shot the dose up there but it had no effect. The next day i tried again but with a 1ml syringe with the needle removed (I don't like the size of the 5ml going up there, i'd much rather use a 1ml it's so much more comfortable) and again i had no effect other than slight warming. Today i tried one more time with 30mg and again nothing happened.

I just wanted to know if i'm doing something wrong or if i'm not using enough or something? I read that rectal administration makes it more bioavailiable so i don't wanna be too hasty in using more dope for the desired effect, i've read that plugging is the 2nd best way of using H other than IV but i'm not gonna do that for obvious reasons, anyway if someone could help i'd really appreciate it...

 

[El_Truthio]

Tried again with 30mg, 3ml of water in a 5ml syringe, and again failed. What am i doing wrong?

 

[Aidens]

If it doesn't work intranasally, what makes you think it'll work rectally? It's basically the same concept, and #3 obviously isn't very suitable for traveling though mucous membranes(aka your bumhole or nasal cavity)

What is your reasoning for wanting to do heroin? Like you say it seems you're very inexperienced with opiates in general, why make this enormous plunge to this toxic, life stealing substance? I am not here to judge just try to understand and possibly provide insight that might save a life.

 

[serotonin2A]

If you are not satisfied with smoking then intranasal or rectal admin isn't going to improve the effect. The bioavailability of smoking is close to IV and higher then oral, intranasal, or rectal admin.

 

[fizzymk]

I smoke my dope frequently, as I have veins that hard to find and hit, but I have Ivd junk in the past, and IMO, smoking it, is pretty damn close, only difference is you dont get that initial rush, but for me, smoking it seems to last alot longer, on a given day, I can wake up in the morning, smoke a few points ( a point being about the size of a match head), and I can feel it sometimes 5-6 hours later, it doesnt keep me high for that long, but does keep the sickness away for up to about 7 hours..

Ive never bought shit online and probably never would...IMO, thats too great a risk to get screwed, I mean, the 'seller' could send you anything, and nothing you could really do about it...or it could be real dope with ALOT of cut in it, (like 90% cut-10% dope).

I think its best to stick with personal connections...when buying online (sight unseen, besides the risk of getting screwed with fake or weak shit, you also have to worry about the law/post office).

 

[Sinner707]

Anybody know where I can get some h in San antonio Texas just moved here from Reno nv I haven't had any luck at all,help me out thanx a bunch

 

[black kat]

I dont get it-is your H in form of solid rock or some kind of sticky wet stuff like tar?

If it is a clean,dry rock id suggest you crush it w a credit card of something,make it into perfect powder form and just sniff 40-50mgs,light up a cig and relax without worrying about the results.Wait for an hour or so and if you feel like you didnt have enough,redose another 30mgs or so.

Some ppl just cant feel/understand/appreciate certain drugs in their first encounters.Try taking steady,solid doses(dont jump from 30mgs to 100mgs because of curiosity or frustration),make sure youre well rested and whatever you end up doing,make sure you stay safe.

 

[mostly-human]

Your only measure of quality is some reviews on a Darknet message board assuring your it's "85%" pure heroin. Really, you have no fucking idea how good your gear is, yet you post "Any way i have no doubt of the quality of the gear" and yet you're plugging 30mg and getting no effect and smoking a pretty similar amount also seems to produce no effect.

Now, I'm a bit of a fan of occam's razo and I'm also speaking from personal experience with very low quality and extremely high quality dope and everything in between.

The incredibly obviously piece of the puzzle that you're missing would seem to be that your dope is not 85% pure heroin. Because smoking 30mg of pure gear would probably get you a bit more stoned than you describe and plugging 30mg almost definitely would get you stoned. It seems to me, there's a pretty bloody high possibility your dope is just regular strength (10-20%) and that is why you're not getting the desired effect.

Now - I'm not saying jump straight to 100mg (because 85mg of pure heroin, if your theory on 85% is correct, is too much for someone with no tolerance) - but I suppose maybe you want to try a bit more and a bit more until you find the sweet spot for you.

And, just maybe accept the fact you just bought normal heroin and not "super internet heroin".

 

[El_Truthio]

From what i've read, plugging is the 2nd most bioavaliable ROA, not smoking.

My technique wasn't perfect but i'm managing better now, i smoked enough to give me a buzz and not be sick but honestly i just don't like it very much.

For those of you who doubt the darkweb, you really should look into it more, i'm not saying you can't get screwed but when a vendor has 5,000+ tranactions in the past year and has been on the darkweb since i first started using it years ago and 99% of his reviews say he's legit, i'm not exactly worried about ordering. Yes they can sell you anything but so can a street dealer, better to get it online than on some sketchy corner.

The H i obtained is #3, it's the most common form of H in Europe and it's generally smoked. From what i understand in the States you get mostly #4 powder on the east coast and tar on the west and south?

Anyway the gear just makes me feel warm and itchy i'm not really into it, not gonna bother using any more. My reasons for doing this experiment were simply curiosity and the desire to understand heroin users a little better. And yes, i'm aware of how stupid that is.

 

[mostly-human]

For those of you who doubt the darkweb, you really should look into it more, i'm not saying you can't get screwed but when a vendor has 5,000+ tranactions in the past year and has been on the darkweb since i first started using it years ago and 99% of his reviews say he's legit, i'm not exactly worried about ordering. Yes they can sell you anything but so can a street dealer, better to get it online than on some sketchy corner.

I don't doubt the dark web, I just doubt the quality of your gear. because I actually have tried near-pure heroin and I've also tried plenty of 'regular' quality heroin and I know the effects of both and I know, roughly, what one in your position should/could expect from something like ~85% pure dope.



I've also heard of countless stories of reputable darkweb vendors also doing dodgy deals, scams etc.


It's simply occam's razor.. Or, another way of saying it, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...


Maybe you're an irrational person, but personally - I'm very rational - so if somebody thinks their drugs are 85% pure, but every bit of actual evidence and practical experience and / or observation indicates otherwise, well - I assume the simplest explanation - your dope isn't that strong, not that there is some bizarre thing going on where you have near-pure dope, but for some reason it's not working properly for you.

 

[Bdbd703]

Smoke that shit man if u cant snort it then u cant olug it its absorbed the same way. Smoke a lil more if u knly feeling warm , smoke hntil your high and you start to nod and feel realy warm inside thats the real high of good dope

 

[f33lg00d]

Maybe you're an irrational person, but personally - I'm very rational - so if somebody thinks their drugs are 85% pure, but every bit of actual evidence and practical experience and / or observation indicates otherwise, well - I assume the simplest explanation - your dope isn't that strong, not that there is some bizarre thing going on where you have near-pure dope, but for some reason it's not working properly for you.

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