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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 2

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Yeah, lucky... for me, usually, 20mg is pretty light. I've taken it up to 30mg, but I've never had a heavy experience from it. Actually the heaviest experience I've ever had from it was 12mg rectally (I have usually dosed it orally)... that had a pretty difficult come-up actually but the trip was very nice. Still not heavy in the way that other 4-sub-Ts are for me though. My best experience on it was about 3 hours after taking 37mg of 2C-B... they combined so beautifully. Probably the best CEVs I've ever had in my life, beautiful, moving, responsive to the music and my thoughts and emotions. It would alternate between amazing fractal mandala displays, pulsing and undulating, that would open up and give way to realistic scenes describing the music.
 
10-15mg 4-HO-MET with a little bit of cannabis creates a very euphoric, beautiful, "heart opening" experience for me, quite stimulating with a high urge to dance, which feels absolutely amazing on this combination. I've gone up to ~35mg with it, which was mostly confusing and didn't really lead to any insight. It's one of the psychs were less is more, in my opinion ;)

Metocins extremely quick comeup (5-10 minutes) and lack of side effects make it one of my favourite psychedelics.

And aww now I want to combine it with 2C-B, that could definitely be awesome.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah, lucky... for me, usually, 20mg is pretty light. I've taken it up to 30mg, but I've never had a heavy experience from it. Actually the heaviest experience I've ever had from it was 12mg rectally (I have usually dosed it orally)... that had a pretty difficult come-up actually but the trip was very nice. Still not heavy in the way that other 4-sub-Ts are for me though. My best experience on it was about 3 hours after taking 37mg of 2C-B... they combined so beautifully. Probably the best CEVs I've ever had in my life, beautiful, moving, responsive to the music and my thoughts and emotions. It would alternate between amazing fractal mandala displays, pulsing and undulating, that would open up and give way to realistic scenes describing the music.
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Hmm that sounds unlucky to me but I really enjoyed being able to have a gram for a year or more while having fairly strong experiences on it! I used it a lot. I find it's great alone and especially as an add on. When I combined it with DOC, LSD, and 2c-B I was getting amazing 3d geometric CEVs that were making such intricate shapes with so many dimensions I couldn't even name. Not to mention I love how bright and neon the colors are regularly with it but with 2c-B they were especially so! I love the quick come up too, a bit jarring but over quick enough not to be an issue really. I remember one time when I was coming up hard on 16 or so mgs with some oral hash, as well as hash with JWH-018 smoked, I walked out into my front yard near sunset while letting my dogs out and for some reason I started to methodically walk in squares crushing down this high patch of grass in my yard... Then I had one of those moments of reflection where I thought about how insane I must look if anyone saw what I was doing and went back inside.
 
Im surprised by the duration of it. Peak for me is 2-3hrs then slowly tapers off until around 5-6hrs at around the 15-20mg dose. It seems more potent then 4-aco-dmt and more of a quick in and out trip then 4-aco-dmt. Very light too. It seems like even with that crazy intense trip i had it would be near impossible to feel a dark side with this one.
 
My best experience on it was about 3 hours after taking 37mg of 2C-B... they combined so beautifully.
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Holy shit: I actually have the chance to give this a try, if I want. The combo sounds really good on paper. . .

ebola
 
Damn, took me several hours to read this whole thread. The oddest thing I heard was from a few posters saying how they turned red and their body became puffy? Has anybody else who has tried this get this side effect?

I'm mostly negative-side-effect free from a lot of substances, to the point where I feel damaged when I get any. Actually, those few side effects tend to do quite a bit of damage, as I like to make damage evaluations from drawing comparisons to if I had just been sober vs taking the substance. I'm just like that, heh.

So, that one side effect seems real trippy and unwanted from my view. I'm about to take 20mg of this later today anyway, since 4 ho met seems very benign considering that I got practically zero negative side effects from its 4 ho mipt counterpart. But I'm hoping that aforementioned side effect is an anomaly. I have high hopes for this chem, and I almost can't wait to mix it with 4 ho mipt. From reading all the posts here, I know I won't be disappointed! I'll be enjoying it for what it is.
 
I have never had any negative side effects from this, or any 4-sub-tryptamine. I don't know anyone in person who has either.
 
ebola? said:
Holy shit: I actually have the chance to give this a try, if I want. The combo sounds really good on paper. . .

ebola
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It was pretty glorious, among the best CEVs I have ever had, so colorful and narrative and fractal. Music enhancement was also amazing, I had one of the best musical experiences of my life on this combo. Enjoy!
 
Xorkoth said:
I have never had any negative side effects from this, or any 4-sub-tryptamine. I don't know anyone in person who has either.
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Alriiiight, yeah I was thinking that if miprocin was good on me, then metocin would be too. Today is a good day to trip without it being too hard on the mind. Thanks Xorkoth, once again!
 
Taking this stuff reallll soon, in about 10 minutes. I love getting effed up at night! <3
 
Damn, this stuff is clean. Like I read here, it IS easy on the mind and the visuals are pretty crazy. It had a distinctly different effect compared to miprocin, oev were more chaotic. Even on a high dose of miprocin, people's faces didn't look trippy but on this stuff, they did. I usually don't like that effect, however I didn't mind it as it seemed to have a friendly nature (similar to miprocin). The body high was nice too, at 20mg it wasn't strong but I expected that. A nice buzz and warmth feeling. I was apprehensive of body load but of course Xorkoth was right, there wasn't any or it was so negligible that I couldn't notice it (I'm usually sensitive to feeling negative effects too). It lasted a good 6 hours, there was a weird chemical taste throughout when you swallow your spit (miprocin has that too), but it's a lot better than the "crap breath" that comes from eating shrooms. Not that shrooms aren't great, because they are. =) It gives me stomach pains though, so I haven't taken them in a while. These trypts are nice substitutes to the lsd/shrooms psychs I've been use to in the past.

Most of all, no body puffiness or vasoconstriction! The last one scares me, as I have heard of gangrene and amputation being possible if it's terrible enough. Just reading that makes me want to faint and stay away as far as possible. Even though I know the chance of that happening off of most of these substances is slim to none.
 
This one has been really catching my eye lately. I was planning on getting 4-ACO-DMT next, but may have to get this instead.
 
I've done 4-ho-met twice at 15mg and have enjoyed it a lot, but honestly felt 15mg to be intense when I didn't have a tolerance. I'm thinking of mixing methylone at 150mg and 4-ho-met with about 5-8mg this Halloween, has anyone tried this kinda combo before?
 
I tried 4-ho-met again, this time at 12mg, and it was still a fairly strong and hard to handle experience at times. Does anyone else have such a low threshold as I do for this drug? I'm wondering if by dosing lower at say 8mg I'll finally be able to find a more comfortable dose on it, as 12mg still gave me fairly strong visuals and a bit of a head fuck (in an unpleasant way).

Also, I always notice an uncomfortable physical effect on metocin, where my hands get tingly and feel like they haven't got much blood in them. It's sometimes hard to deal with and often detracts from my trip.
 
Are you sure you have 4-HO-MET?

I find the visuals very smooth, pulsating warm colours and tracers and 4-ho-met to be very light on the head so much that I would suggest it as first time psychedelics so some. I have dosed between 16-20mg.

Dropping methylone mid trip felt like I polluted the trip somehow and my stomach didn't agree either, but later when only feeling slight residual effects methylone crystals provided excellent blissful relaxation.

Yesterday, I tried a threshold dose of 6mg, just to loosen up a little.. which gave mostly a stimulating body high that felt slightly irritating at times, this dose was probably not enough to break trough at higher doses the body high was great even more so with 4-ACO-DIPT, will explore higher doses soon.
 
The mental effects weren't terribly strong... just unsettling, forcing me to think about unpleasant thoughts. I'm fairly certain it is 4-ho-met, I got it from a reputable vendor that has always done me right. I've noticed that others can take larger doses than me and be fine kinda thing, so I feel I must be super sensitive to this drug.
 
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The mental effects weren't terribly strong... just unsettling, forcing me to think about unpleasant thoughts. I'm fairly certain it is 4-ho-met, I got it from a reputable vendor that has always done me right. I've noticed that others can take larger doses than me and be fine kinda thing, so I feel I must be super sensitive to this drug.
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Yes, I've taken lsd hundreds of times (and consequently got everything I could out of it) so you can say I've got a high tolerance from the effects of psychedelics, especially the mindfuck from it. But back when I first got into it, I was also pretty lightweight (100ug would floor me, and 1g of shrooms would as well). During my latest excursions with them, I'd need at least twice that to feel something, and the trip would be light to medium. I find that with psychedelics, even if you bring tolerance down by spacing the trips out, you gain another tolerance through experience itself.

Is yours the fumurate version too? That's the reason I dose high; I think the original dosage levels were based off of the hcl, so that's also why I upped the doses right off the bat with the fumurate chems. You may be just sensitive to psychedelics overall, haven't done any in a while, or you have a really good batch (though I think I do too).

The visuals were definitely strong though, in a fun kind of way even at 20mg. I'm guessing even extreme doses won't mess with the mind all that much either, it doesn't seem like the kind of chem for that. Either way, I'll test this at 60mg in a few weeks and see how it goes.

But I could see how someone may be affected by its headspace, if anything negative thought loops seem plausible on this one.
 
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