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3WarmWildEyes

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Hey guys :) So I'm fairly new to all this & have never posted before, so I really have no idea where this should go. But I do have questions so I guess I'll just go ahead and lay it all out there...

I'm 26/F and have been prescribed to an array of meds, on & off, since I was about 14. I've been diagnosed with ADD, Anxiety & Bipolar disorder/ Manic Depression. Borderline Personality Disorder has been suggested & if I could actually afford to have a sleep study I would most definitely be diagnosed with a circadian rhythm sleep disorder. Either Non-24-Hour Sleep/Wake Disorder or Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome. Basically my body never wants to function on a socially acceptable sleep schedule. I've had problems with it all of my life but as I've gotten older it has become progressively more debilitating. I have a theory that it was, in a way, worsened when I began being prescribed to Adderall & Mirtazapine at age 14. Although it did help, my guess is that my already struggling brain continued to develop while on these drugs, causing my body to NEED them to function at least somewhat properly. I'm not a doctor so of course I don't know this for sure. But to me it makes sense that a developing brain can be irreversibly changed by such chemicals.

Anyway... I missed a lot of high school due to all of this, mostly because the lack of sleep & the stress began to cause migraines. That's when I started smoking herb, which helped, but not enough. I actually had to see a neurologist because I started having fainting spells & mini seizures as well. So much school was missed that the ill-equipped social workers involved in my Individualized Education Plan told my parents to just let me drop out at age 16. I think that might have had a lot to do with my parent's lack of funds & the fact that I had hott pink hair and black fingernails. To them I was just an outcast problem child with no money. Unfortunately their closed minded view of me outweighed the fact that up until high school I was in advanced classes and ALWAYS tested above average in SOL's. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd be willing to bet that if I had been more of a popular, preppy kid & Daddy had more money, things would've been a lot different.

Anyway... After tinkering with doses and trying different SSRI's I finally got to a point where I was functioning quite well. At least as well as a teen can with all this going on. I was lucky enough to have found a private school for kids with emotional issues and different educational needs like me. So with the combo of meds & an understanding environment, I was a thriving straight A student with a perfect attendance record. Unfortunately it was all short lived because I was dropped from my Mother's health insurance when I turned 18. It wasn't long before I began to regress & that's when I really started to self medicate. I couch surfed & lived with a laundry list of awful/abusive boyfriends. This went on for a few years until I was about 22- 23 & found a job bar tending the graveyard shift at a sleezy 24hr diner. It seemed to work for my sleep habits and I'd like to say I was functioning fairly well again. But in reality I hated my job, my boyfriend and my life all together and I developed a coke & opiate habit. I eventually ended up loosing my job, my boyfriend, my apartment & my car all in about a 2 month period. I of course fell into deep depression followed by extreme manic phases. This cycle went on for months until one night, while manic, I met a random dude at a bar who grew weed in northern CA. So I left my home in Richmond, Va... California on my mind ;) That turned out to be a great experience in a lot of ways but also a new special kind of hell. That is until I finally got pretty clean (not by choice) and met the man whom I've now been with for 3 years. We are amazingly perfect for each other and I'm extremely happy with him. But we both definitely have our demons & bad habits. While in Cali we got pretty wrapped up in both meth & opiates. We were struggling to afford our habits & just life in general with trim work in NorCal being very seasonal. So after awhile we moved to Florida, where he is from. There we definitely calmed down with the frequency of our drug use, but our primary method turned to mostly intravenous. After a few months, things went once again sour with my job (that I had somehow acquired) and also with our living situation.

My Father, whom I haven't had a good relationship with since before puberty (surprise surprise) offered to let us move into the house I grew up in. And since my Father didn't actually live there and RVA is just swarming with dope, it was extremely easy to develop a VERY bad heroin habit. It wasn't long before we were both completely strung out. I guess my family really didn't want to believe it, so it took awhile for them to figure out exactly what was going on. But of course they eventually did. My boyfriend went back home to FL & got on the Suboxone program & my Mother basically kidnapped me & took me to a much smaller mountain town with the hope that I wouldn't be able to get my hands on anything. At first she was right & I thought I might die from the withdrawal. But up popped a friend of the family that helped me get dope, at first, but then mostly Suboxone.

My Mother (with whom I have a very good relationship) was devastated of course but actually really cool about it & took me to a Psychiatrist. He put me back on Adderall, Mirtazapine & Lamictal. Neither of them were aware that I was using again. But since it was mostly just Subs, along with the psych meds I really started to function again. To the point where I got myself back down to FL to be with the love of my life. We had been through too much together & love each other too much to throw it all away. Now we are both living in FL together. Both mostly clean, other than Subs. And although we are currently working on our living situation and our financial situation isn't perfect, we have definitely come a long way since this time last year & we are very happy!!

I have a Dr. here who is prescribing Adderall, Lamictal & Xanex & along with Suboxone I feel like I've finally found the right mix of meds that works for me :) My boyfriend is working full time & although I haven't found one yet, I feel like I'm finally to the point where my head is on straight enough to hold down a job. I've even started working on my art again, which is a passion of mine. But in the past I have struggled with finding the motivation & focus that is needed. I've come to terms with the fact that I'll most likely have to be medicated for the rest of my life but I do someday want to have children. So I guess this is where my questions come in...


I've read a few contradicting views on pregnancy and breast feeding while on Adderall, Xanex, Antidepressants & Suboxone. But from what I've gathered, the percentage of the drug that is passed on to the baby is so small that there are very little to no negative effects. At least as far as breast feeding goes. Especially since with the Suboxone I have weened myself down to about .5-1mg Bupe (1/16-1/8 of a strip) every 12 hrs. But my real question is... Is this still true if I am taking it intravenously? I know that sounds awful & please believe me when I say that if there is a real chance that it could harm my hypothetical baby then I will stop. But I have found that I can take alot less this way. Not to mention I do seem to be addicted to the prick & the ritual. I'd also like to know if shooting Suboxone strips "properly" can have any major health risks for me.

I recently had to have my gallbladder removed due to an infection. I believe this to be caused by me (stupidly) shooting old Opana cottons. But I've noticed that since my surgery my lungs have felt very "heavy" and I have some discomfort breathing. But only when the Suboxone starts to wear off. Could this be caused by the surgery itself or my IV usage in general or by my Suboxone IV use? I will mention that I smoke about a pack of non-menthol a day, am prone to bronchitis & seem to be easily effected by mold & allergenes.

Also does anyone have any info about any negative effects associated with any mixture of the meds I am taking? Like I said I feel I have FINALLY found a regiment that works for me but I need to know if it is doing real harm to me or will do harm to my future children. And unfortunately I can't be completely honest with my Dr. as I am not actually prescribed to Suboxone & I obviously won't be telling him that I use needles. I know this is extremely long & has ALOT of different angles, but I think I needed to get it all out & let you have all the info.

If you've made it this far... Thanx for reading and for any advice you may have. I am also open to any advice or incite about any of the other issues I talked about such as the development of an adolescent brain on meds, our education system, self-medicating/drug use (you name it I've most likely done it) addiction or sleep disorders. I've considered trying to get on disability for my sleep disorder, but I can't afford a sleep study. So any advice on that would be greatly appreciated as well :)
 
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Welcome to Bluelight!

In ALL honesty.. i read half way through, i can't understand a big wall of text like that. Too hard to read.
Maybe edit it and add some paragraphs to make it easier on the reader?
From what i got from what i could understand is you're telling us your ups and downs and troubles you have.

If i could read it more clearly, i could offer some advice (maybe).

Again welcome to BL :)

-HOOD
 
^ fair point, but did you guys never pick up the 'skill' of "speed reading"?

Start from here, after the introduction;
I've come to terms with the fact that I'll most likely have to be medicated for the rest of my life but I do someday want to have children. So I guess this is where my questions come in...
I've read a few contradicting views on pregnancy and breast feeding while on Adderall, Xanex, Antidepressants & Suboxone. But from what I've gathered, the percentage of the drug that is passed on to the baby is so small that there are very little to no negative effects. At least as far as breast feeding goes. Especially since with the Suboxone I have weened myself down to about .5-1mg Bupe (1/16-1/8 of a strip) every 12 hrs. But my real question is... Is this still true if I am taking it intravenously? I know that sounds awful & please believe me when I say that if there is a real chance that it could harm my hypothetical baby then I will stop. But I have found that I can take alot less this way. Not to mention I do seem to be addicted to the prick & the ritual. I'd also like to know if shooting Suboxone strips "properly" can have any major health risks for me. I recently had to have my gallbladder removed due to an infection. I believe this to be caused by me (stupidly) shooting old Opana cottons. But I've noticed that since my surgery my lungs have felt very "heavy" and I have some discomfort breathing. But only when the Suboxone starts to wear off. Could this be caused by the surgery itself or my IV usage in general or by my Suboxone IV use? I will mention that I smoke about a pack of non-menthol a day, am prone to bronchitis & seem to be easily effected by mold & allergenes. Also does anyone have any info about any negative effects associated with any mixture of the meds I am taking? Like I said I feel I have FINALLY found a regiment that works for me but I need to know if it is doing real harm to me or will do harm to my future children. And unfortunately I can't be completely honest with my Dr. as I am not actually prescribed to Suboxone & I obviously won't be telling him that I use needles. I know this is extremely long & has ALOT of different angles, but I think I needed to get it all out & let you have all the info. If you've made it this far... Thanx for reading and for any advice you may have. I am also open to any advice or incite about any of the other issues I talked about such as the development of an adolescent brain on meds, our education system, self-medicating/drug use (you name it I've most likely done it) addiction or sleep disorders. I've considered trying to get on disability for my sleep disorder, but I can't afford a sleep study. So any advice on that would be greatly appreciated as well :)
<3 Love & Light <3

(I'm not sure if someone can provide you with some guidance - in the form of advice or subforums in which your questions may be more suited, wildeyes, but it sounds like you've had some hard times to get through.
Welcome to bluelight, I hope you find the community here helpful and supportive as you take on this next stage of your life).
 
I've read a few contradicting views on pregnancy and breast feeding while on Adderall, Xanex, Antidepressants & Suboxone. But from what I've gathered, the percentage of the drug that is passed on to the baby is so small that there are very little to no negative effects. At least as far as breast feeding goes. Especially since with the Suboxone I have weened myself down to about .5-1mg Bupe (1/16-1/8 of a strip) every 12 hrs. But my real question is... Is this still true if I am taking it intravenously? I know that sounds awful & please believe me when I say that if there is a real chance that it could harm my hypothetical baby then I will stop. But I have found that I can take alot less this way. Not to mention I do seem to be addicted to the prick & the ritual. I'd also like to know if shooting Suboxone strips "properly" can have any major health risks for me.

I firmly believe there is potential harm to the child if you're taking antidepressants during your pregnancy. Your doctor will almost entirely disagree with this idea, and want to keep you on them. You'll have to let me know which specific antidepressant to give you a better idea on the degree of safety for the unborn child.

A steady amount of Xanax won't be harmful from what I gather; as long as it's never misused, and always a conservative medicinal dose; how much Xanax are you taking per day?

From what I understand, Adderall is potentially harmful to your unborn child. The good news is that you should be able to stop taking Adderall by gradually decreasing your dose before stopping it, and you shouldn't feel too horrible, and it shouldn't have any negative effects on your pregnancy. Please confirm this with your doctor; if they want to keep you on some antidepressant, they won't want to take you off this one either. How much Adderall are you taking each day?

SUBOXONE IV; this is all right

A) you are stabilized on it, and it is a partial agonist. The amount you're taking isn't likely to cause a severe case of withdrawal (or any at all, perhaps) for your unborn child.

HOWEVER... it is VERY important to remember that for children and newborns/un-borns, that buprenorphine is 10x potent. A medicinal dose of 150-300mcg IM/IV buprenorphine for an adult would translate to a 15-30 mcg dosage of buprenorphine for a child. It might even be a smaller amount; though an un-born child would not in itself require a suboxone dosage

^ It's important to remember this.

About IVing it

you're going to be getting the drug into your blood stream with any ROA; intravenous drug use is literally the most direct way to do this. It would be impossible to administer buprenorphine directly into your brain, so any ROA you use, the unborn child WILL be receiving an amount of the drug

So really, I wouldn't stop IVing on my account, but are you going to keep IVing after your child is born? Maybe this is the time to quit; or at least ,switch to a non-IV route. At the very least, I urge you to be ready to switch away from IV use the day the baby is born - but again, this is just my personal advice


I recently had to have my gallbladder removed due to an infection. I believe this to be caused by me (stupidly) shooting old Opana cottons. But I've noticed that since my surgery my lungs have felt very "heavy" and I have some discomfort breathing. But only when the Suboxone starts to wear off. Could this be caused by the surgery itself or my IV usage in general or by my Suboxone IV use? I will mention that I smoke about a pack of non-menthol a day, am prone to bronchitis & seem to be easily effected by mold & allergenes.
A) you likely weren't using micron filters
B) not properly filtering tablets (let alone old cottons...) means all the inactive ingredients get to be filtered out by your body's organs (eyes, lungs, etc); this is likely why you feel this
C) You SMOKE A PACK OF CIGARETTES A DAY? Please quit these NOW; these are worst for you and your unborn child. The nicotinic acetylcholine receptors are rather important for optimal mental functioning. In addition; your baby can have birth defects as a result of tobacco use; I personally knew a young woman with a cleft palette due to her mother's relentless cigarette use during her pregnancy

sorry to put that in such a large size, but really, all the other drugs are a drop in the lake compared to cigarettes. What Adderall, buprenorphine, and Xanax will do to the child's brain is not going to be as detrimental as what nicotine can/will do, not to mention, how the tobacco use will potentially cause birth defects.
 
Thanx guys :) Yea I guess I got a little carried away. But since I was looking for advice on so many different topics I figured I'd just put it all out there for this first post. I plan to break it down into different topics for different forums.

Captain.Heroin- Right now I'm on 50mg Lamictal which my Dr. said is a very low dose & from what I understand is not an SSRI but a mild mood stabilizer. Most SSRIs haven't worked well for me. I take .25-.5mg Xanex & 15-30mg Adderall/day depending on how I'm feeling. Yes I do plan on switching to a non-IV route, but I know this will be a hard habit to break.

No I've never used micron filters & don't actually know anyone who uses them. Just regular cotton. I've never had a problem before except "cotton fevor" a few times. & when I say "old cottons" I mean I kept the cottons I'd used to filter the pills originally & then after they'd been sitting for like a week I added more water & squeezed the hell out of them to get any leftover Opana left in them & then refiltered with a fresh cotton. I got high but then immediately got violently sick. I'm sure the sitting cottons had collected bacteria which is why I got so sick. Stupid I know but I had seen someone do it & they were fine. But trust me, I won't be doing that ever again.

I am definitely aware of how cigs are harmful to me and my unborn children & although I am not ready to quit yet & I know it will definitely be the hardest habit of mine to break, I will definitely do it before I even think about starting a family!!

So are you saying that using just plain cottons has caused a new infection in my lungs?

Thanx again for the advice :)
 
Welcome - and i can only echo what captain herion said. I knew a girl who smoked through pregnancy and the baby did have physical abnormalities. Good luck. A child is a gift. THey give you a sense of purpose like no other. Imaging a world with out children is like a world with no music or fireworks. Thats my take anyway.
 
A) you likely weren't using micron filters
B) not properly filtering tablets (let alone old cottons...) means all the inactive ingredients get to be filtered out by your body's organs (eyes, lungs, etc)


So are you saying that using just plain cottons has caused a new infection in my lungs?
 
Basically no; the cotton in itself isn't what did it

The leftover water in the cottons, sitting around for a while, enabled the growth of bacterial colonies

when you re-washed these, you absorbed the leftover oxymorphone as well as the bacterial colonies

the latter is what caused you to become sick

If you aren't ready to give up nicotine, please switch to an electronic cigarette, so you can vaporize nicotine safely
 
Yea I get that. & then I was hospitalized, the infected organ was removed & they pumped me full of antibiotics so there was no infection left. So that's not what's bothering me now. What I'm wondering now is what's wrong with my lungs & whether its possible that shooting subs (with clean cottons) has caused a new lung issue? Do u know if the surgery itself (like being intebated) could cause this?
 
Only going back to the hospital and getting it checked out can tell you what is going on for sure.
Everything else is just speculation.. even if we were all doctors (which were not) we cant examine you over BL.

The suboxone could have caused lung infection..
And so could have the procedure you had done.
It's a crap shoot.

-HOOD
 
I plan on going to the Dr on Monday. I just thought there might be a possibility someone out there might have heard of or been through something similar. I'm starting to think that I might have a partially collapsed lung which is apparently a really common complication of surgery. Of course NONE of my doctors or nurses actually told me that or what I could do to try to avoid it. I'm not surprised though considering how ridiculous my whole hospital experienc was... another story for another day & another forum. Anyway thanx for your input. If anyone is interested in the diagnosis I'll update later. But either way thanx again :)
 
Welcome to Bluelight, 3WarmWildEyes,

I apologise as I've not read your post yet - but wanted to welcome you to the forum n hope that you settle in well n find what you want / need here. From the snipbits I've read so far (of the responses) it gives an illustration of what BL is about, information, harm-reduction n support. You've come to the right place I hope you'll agree. Lots of posters here are well-experiences with several different substances so you're in good hands :).

Once again, welcome! And I look forward in seeing you around the site.

Evey
 
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