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The ISIS Megathread

I see the most likely solution to Iraq that the current government is strengthened by US intervention and eventually is powerful enough to stand on its own.

Coming back to this point again though, we've done this already. We were entrenched for nearly a decade, propping up the current government with the full force of the US military while also providing training, weapons, funding, intelligence etc to the current government and they're just getting steamrolled by ISIS now. I'm just not seeing what else the US can do. We can't live there.

This is going to have to involve a regional coalition and with a local solution. The Peshmerga, the Iranians, Assad and probably the Saudis and Turkey are going to have to sit down and figure this out if they really want to rid the region of this problem.
 
They've got a 5-year plan...

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http://www.worthynews.com/#article/16641
 
I imagine you think I think that it will happen. What is your fucking malfunction? You are so fucking vile, and have something for everything. How far can you shove that carrot up your ass?

The 'IS' claimed this. This is enough to make we want to smash them where they are.

"Oh"- you say. "Such a badass, why don't you join up?". You've got to be the most annoying troll on this site. Go entertain yourself somewhere else.

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I imagine you think I think that it will happen.

I imagine you think that I think that you think that I think you're the kind of terminally petrified 'fraidey cat who thinks that the Caliphate is a real threat to the world order and I think that you think that I think that you think that I am probably right. And I think that i think such thoughts because you think things out loud on this forum all the time that make me think that you think exactly those sorts of thoughts. I especially think that you think such thoughts when you post scary images devoid of all and any context - your link just links I think to the Worthy Christian News (lulwtf do you REALLY base you worldview on crap like that? I didn't think that even the thoughts that you think are quite so insane but here we are...) so without any context and based on the thoughts you have thought in the past I think it's quite legitimate for for me to think that you think such thinking things.
 
Pathetic. Its not the only source that had that info.

As if I don't know the so called Islamic State is only in certain areas right now...

Frankly I feel that the '5-year plan' is laughable... Currently. But I don't know the future. I can see sometime later them influencing people in certain areas, and causing havoc. Maybe not what they aim to do. I don't know. I posted '5-year plan', in part in humor, fuckbag. Like how people have five year plans for their lives... This is theirs.

So fucking desperate you are.
 
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Oh. My.

ABC News' headline read: “See the Terrifying ISIS Map Showing its 5-Year Expansion Plan.” It traced the map back not to the Sunni militant group, but to A3P, an American political party that promotes white supremacy. Other media organizations that published the map include The Daily Mail, The Blaze, a conservative news site founded by Glenn Beck, and iO9, a blog launched by Gawker Media in 2008.

This is why it's probably not a good Idea to rely on sites like "Christian Worthy News" to form your view of the world (or ABC News and the Daily Mail for that matter) :\

And more on A3P

http://citationsneeded.com/2014/07/...lshit-isis-caliphate-map-other-media-follows/

Seem just like your kind of people, LulWut23!
 
This x1000000

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Australia is not a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. That is because Australia is a long way from the North Atlantic.

That did not deter the Prime Minister from offering the Ukrainian government military support and military advice in its struggle with Russian-backed separatists.

What vital Australian interests are at stake in Ukraine has not been explained. What useful military advice Australia has to offer has not been spelled out.

Tony Abbott has been equally eager – pantingly eager, it must be said – to join a new coalition, put together by US President Barack Obama at NATO's recent summit in Wales, to "degrade and destroy" the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

None of the 10 nations that have so far joined the coalition is willing to commit ground forces. The degradation of ISIL will be carried out from the air. How that will be done without risking massive casualties among the long-suffering civilians of northern Iraq and eastern Syria has not been clarified.

But we are assured it must be done. ISIL poses a real threat to Australia's own security, because, like a virus, its ideology will be carried home by those deluded Australians who have volunteered to fight in its ranks. Terrorism and jihad will return to our shores.

That is less likely to happen, it seems, if Australia joins in the aerial bombardment of northern Iraq. Even though, as Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop confusingly told us over the weekend, ISIL cannot be destroyed. As the Americans say, go figure.

Meanwhile, there is another deadly virus loose in the world. A real virus that poses, I would have thought, at least as serious a threat as the jihadists of ISIL to the health and security of Australians – and the citizens of every other nation on earth.

On September 2 – just two days before the leaders of 28 of the world's wealthiest and most militarily powerful nations met in Wales – the President of Medecins Sans Frontieres International made a desperate plea at a briefing to the United Nations in New York.

"Six months into the worst Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it," said Dr Joanne Liu. The international response had been "lethally inadequate". What was needed now, she declared, was the sort of expertise in dealing with biological threats that only advanced nations' armed forces possessed.

In a moving interview on RN's Breakfast last Friday, the President of MSF Belgium, Dr Meinie Nicolai, repeated Liu's call. MSF was being overwhelmed in West Africa, she said. "We cannot do this alone."

In other disasters, she pointed out, advanced nations had been quick to respond. "If we have an earthquake, for example … there's a lot of armies who come with their surgeons, with their capacity to quickly set up a field hospital; that capacity we need now in West Africa for Ebola ... funding alone is not enough. We need people who take the responsibility to open new treatment centres, help us deal with the dead bodies, help us inform the population, to do contact tracing; there is so much work to do."

So, what was the response to MSF's plea in Newport, Wales, last week? There was none. So far as I can see, no one at the NATO summit had a word to say about Ebola.

Over the weekend, it is true, Obama promised the deployment of "military assets" to West Africa. The French government is sending 20 experts in infectious disease control. The British government has committed £5 million ($8.5 million) to help charities such as MSF.

But it is not exactly an overwhelming response. And Abbott has been nowhere to be seen.

Of course, any government would think twice before ordering its military forces to deploy field hospitals to West Africa. The heroic doctors and nurses who man MSF's Ebola clinics right now are putting themselves at far greater risk of death – and a horrible death at that – than the pilots who will soon be dropping bombs on ISIL, or the "rapid response force" that NATO has decided to set up as a result of the crisis in Ukraine.

Can any head of government, in good conscience, order the men and women in their nation's military medical corps to take such risks? What kind of backlash could those leaders expect when the first body bags come home?

And yet, if Abbott had stood up in the past few days and committed an Australian field hospital – perhaps manned by volunteers ready to face the risks – to the fight against Ebola, what an effect that might have had.

To be sure, West Africa is a long way from Australia. But so is Ukraine. The task of containing the Ebola outbreak grows tougher by the day – but no tougher than the task of destroying ISIL; and at least the attempt will save lives, not take them.

Above all, such an initiative might have shamed those nations who are closer, and richer, into doing what they should be doing already. How about it, Mr Abbott? You seem to want us to "punch above our weight" on the global stage. Well, here is your chance.

The heroic volunteers of MSF – and the hard-pressed health workers of impoverished West African nations – should not have to carry this burden alone.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/eb...-conflicts-20140909-10e7ee.html#ixzz3Cubh1Auy
 
For some reason what I had in mind had a comedic tone. Not that there aren't serious five year plans... But this is kind of what it resonated with.
 
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They've stated they want to retake these lands, at least (those not of the 'Muslim world' currently, that were once, like Spain, they consider occupied). The image I posted is not at all far fetched for what they want.

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Considering the leader of this 'Caliphate' is assumed by them to be Mohammad's successor (the Caliph), they expect the entire Muslim world to follow him...

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So what if that one image came from a Neo-Nazi source? They aren't exactly full on lying... Maybe attempting propaganda with the five year thing. I don't know. But it seems to me they're at least in good part with this putting it together.

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/category/beheadings-graphic/

^^ These fuckers really love beheading people don't they? There's a video at the bottom of a 12 year old beheading some dude.. this world is a cold peace! All for what? Religion? Fuck these guys dude I swear I wish I could gather up every muslim piece of shit and slit their fucking throats with a smile on my face. Fuck these guys dude seriously! I feel bad for all the Christians in the middle east.. this is fucked up man and someone needs to put an end to this shit!
 
Seem just like your kind of people, LulWut23!

Seriously, can we just stop it with the childishness? I like posting in this forum because there is actually a chance of intelligent conversation happening but it really ruins the vibe to have to read through this every time I open a thread.
 
Seriously, can we just stop it with the childishness?

Well it happens to be true - those nutters share a lot of the same beliefs that our little friend LulWut23 has openly expressed. If someone who constantly says deeply racist shit goes and posts shit from white supremacists then I am going to point out that fact. Quite frankly, I find that posting white supremacist propaganda isn't exactly great for the "vide" of the forum either.
 
herp-a-derp

Wow. Way to miss the point. Pretty sure we all know what the historical caliphate looked like. And maybe these guys do dream of restoring that past glory but the point I was making is that I also dream of getting my dick sucked by Lindsay Lohan while snorting Peruvian fishscale from the nipples of Rhianna - but that doesn't mean that my "five year plan" to make that happen is any more realistic than ISIS'. They currently occupy a handful of cities, control a few slivers of of territory in Northern Iraq and Syria - they're no closer to their dream than I am to mine, despite what you what supremacist buddies would have you believe.
 
If you had a real desire, and intention to conquer my sisters household and make her daughters do what you dream, I'd get my friend in intelligence, or/and whomever, to help me out in locating you, and then I'd come and kill you. :)

They are trying to recruit all over. This is threatening.
 
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