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Trying to push myself on not taking GIANT doses of benzos as I do every single day.. So, 45mg Dexedrine Spansules, 20mg Valyum, 6mg Bromazepam, and I'm going to try to kick my subs I've been on for 2 years+ so I just down a buncha Bali Kratom. Doubt it will do much, if anything. Haven't had a sub in 3 days, my hands are shaking a bit, pretty sure from the Bali. How long (generally) does it take effect? I brewed 10 grams and somehow downed it without puking, came very close, though.. Empty stomach, btw.
 
Ykm: kratom kicks in pretty fast definitely within an hour every time I take it. 10g. Is a solid dose, I wouldn't add more for 2-3 hours if it feels weak. I hope you're talking about powdered leaf as I've no experience with any other type.

I'm kinda buzzed as I just drank on an empty stomach directly after waking... Woo go me.
 
Coffee and smoke. I'm not really sure I can quit smoking pot successfully anymore, this is sketch, I'm nauseous as fuck ALL THE TIME, I only slept about an hour or two last night, and like I just really want to smoke weed really badly.
 
^ the first week is SO hard but I've found after 2 weeks its substantially easier and after 3 weeks getting high is more of a memory. Staying very busy and getting lots of exercise helps me. I have taken long T breaks before and after about 3 weeks it always gets a lot easier. Just do day by day and if it is a real goal you'll do it. Good luck and remember why you wanted a break to begin w/!
 
SirTophamHat said:
Ykm: kratom kicks in pretty fast definitely within an hour every time I take it. 10g. Is a solid dose, I wouldn't add more for 2-3 hours if it feels weak. I hope you're talking about powdered leaf as I've no experience with any other type.

I'm kinda buzzed as I just drank on an empty stomach directly after waking... Woo go me.
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Bali powder, boiled, I added pure honey (Not the store brand bullshit) and my god, it was fucking disgusting. I figured since pure honey is so very potent, it would make it easier to down, it didn't at all.. How do you prep yours? It's a nasty, nasty taste. worse than PST by a mile.. I don't feel euphoric, a SLIGHT sedation, that's all.. Although as I am typing this I'm starting to feel an opiod-ish like warmth. I took more benzos (Only a tiny amount, 3mg kpins and 12mg bromazepam).. Maybe it's interfering or it's just going to take longer to kick in. I will say I bought it off my friend that owns a smoke shop, so in all likeliness it COULD be weak. I feel like it's just starting to take effect after I smoked a few newports.
http://www.kratom-k.com/product_images/w/698/American_Kratom_Bali_30_capsules__20475_zoom.jpg
What I bought.
 
how much did you do? 15 grams? i've been told to avoid kratom from head-shops, but also did find good quality in some.

i love kratom. but after using it everynow and then for a month or so, sometimes daily, it is hit and miss. this morning i dosed 5 grams which would normally get me super high for a few hours but this time just made me feel little sick with a bit of opiate buzz, not much. been mixing up good strains too. (not at same time)

so its now late afternoon... i can: take more kratom and hope it works, or take some some phenibut, 1gram or so. hmmm or a lil codeine i have left.


fucking hate the kratom taste so much. you can either put them in caps (maybe this is why it did not work for me today well idk). easy to make caps just dump the cap in bag of kratom and get a full cap. they each weigh 500mg, dependin on ur cap. so you need to make like 5 to 20 depending what you are after. so takes way too long but it is easy to take.


or just mix it with a smothie, or juice. orange juice is really good at covering the taste.. put a bit of boilded water into bottle, shake to mix the kratom, then add the oj.

i used to do it with warm tap water, like drink a full glass. only threw up one time when i drank the whole thing fucking yuck taste m9.


yeah so i might take another kratom dose let's see how i get on. gotta pop out though n get some oj, fucked if ill be doing it with water. we have no milk
 
Werd yes kratom can also be stimulating but if you look (feel?) closely there is an opiate high there. I used to toss and wash. Totally agree that straight kratom powder into water or even honey water blows balls. Its way too similar to sand. For that reason alone I don't really go for it anymore, though if I had an afternoon to kill and a hundred 00 caps I might do it again.

I would just wait dude cause kratom is like a good 8+ hour high with a low tolerance. I mean if u got loads more its not dangerous to redose but I would just wait and see.
 
lol simlar to sand, fucking spot on mate.

yeah i dosed 930 am.. so it has been 9 hours. i think the shitty high is now over. i could maybe do 6 grams now in hopes it works

[edit] just out of interest, what is the maximum ppl have dosed their kratom? i like 1g to 6 g

[edit] WTF toss and wash, is that when u eat it? seems very painful and like i'll throw it all up?
 
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^ protip: mix the kratom with a hot latte coffee ( just hot coffee and milk), it's the best think you can use to cover the taste.

I'm just a little stoned now.
 
SirTophamHat said:
Werd yes kratom can also be stimulating but if you look (feel?) closely there is an opiate high there. I used to toss and wash. Totally agree that straight kratom powder into water or even honey water blows balls. Its way too similar to sand. For that reason alone I don't really go for it anymore, though if I had an afternoon to kill and a hundred 00 caps I might do it again.

I would just wait dude cause kratom is like a good 8+ hour high with a low tolerance. I mean if u got loads more its not dangerous to redose but I would just wait and see.
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My tolerance is quite high.. I've been on subs over 2 years, been off 3 days, that's another factor.. But, when I did cheat days, I would IV 0.4/0.5 of great quality tar, along with cocaines (I love hareon, but these days I steer clear, but IF I do slip up, I won't do it unless I'm banging a speedball, so .4 dope and.. Not really sure but maybe 200mg cocaines? It's fishscale, so likely less than 200mg, I love to IV coke, that was the worst decision I made was putting cocaine into a rig, I still crave it to this day n always will.. Fucking addicted to the bellringer)..
 
ok i am just going to do coke instead and save kratom for another day! off i go .

might actually do some lines, then pop out and buy something to cook.
 
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Now there's a talent. I've never tripped intentionally so I'm guessing it takes some experience to focus your way to controlling hallucinations?
Crazy shit!
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Actually that was only my 2nd or 3rd time getting to that point of seeing faces/people on my walls/objects, which was induced by sleep deprived 4 day meth binge. I only use meth once or twice a year, just in the past 3 years, but i tend to go a little far when i do =p(luckily I'm an opiate kinda guy, unlucky though as I have built quite a dependance to them :(. Basically it was just a few hours of amazement/obsession and curiosity about the hallucinations, wanting to understand why my mind is projecting these specific entities(some evil, some friendly, etc) one thing led to the next and before you know it I'm organizing a pornography on my wall lol. It didn't actually work as well as I wanted it to in the end, almost like they were mad at me for it lol, and they began transforming into very frightening demonic type entities, very intimidating. Thats one way for a mind to entertain itself for a night... Ended up passing out about an hour after posting.

On Topic: After much needed sleep I started the cycle over today(lol) with another dose about n hour ago. Unfortunately short term tolerance has built up during this binge :( due for a break, but i still have like half a sack left, shouldn't have bought a full g. So hard to resist redosing, though I am only delaying the inevitable dreadful 1-2 week comedown.
 
.3 heroin IV and 60mg oxy oral, 15mg diazepam, fresh pot of green tea.

Damn nice start to the morning as I'm considering going fishing, and check the crab pots in hope of a scrumptious dinner!

shots of gin, cigs n a freshly brewed pot of green tea.

Its not even 9am
 
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