MDPV Megathread 11: Still sorting all the porn.

[Shambles]

Well i did go through a brief spell of dabbling with PV, but it was never what i would call a very 'serious' or even an overly problematic or prolonged dabbling so i guess you are right. It just didnt seem to suit my particular chemistry very much, the negatives pretty soon outweighed the positives. The EU ban may not make much difference to people who have connections that go far and wide, but i suspect that a sizeable proportion of EADD membership has their supply restricted to w/e they can get from well known, trusted and reliable European vendors, the dark web, or any other contacts they may have online or IRL.

At risk of sounding a bit presumptious and snarky (dont mean to sound snarky) not all of us are lucky enough to have connections (or connections of connections of connections etc) with Indian or Chinese labs. Perhaps there'd be a lot more people obtaining decent meph and such like if there were. Yeah i have developed quite a taste for pentedrone recently, and fortunately it seems to be something that i can restrict to just once every few weeks, or w/e an opportunity arises etc.

This is such utter bullshit it's just bugged me for quite some time since reading it. Y'all think I have "connections"? Really. I have none. I have less than you yourself nor most anybody else around these parts (given us moddy folk get to see minor indescretions and that ). That's not to say I never have done cos I did. And those folks sometimes made a lotta money, sometimes screwed many a folk, sometimes sold a lil soul along the way... I may be around the fringes at times but that was never me or I'd be a very rich man living off y'all like some of those I could name who I'd never think of doing so.

I have Google same as we all do. I hear there are other methods these days. TORry stuffs and that. Seems unnnecessary faff to me. All just more bullshit that feeds on itself. Good things come to those as and when they are required. Has always worked for me and I trust in that. I have no fukkin clue who why where or when these things will happen but they will happen and that is all that matters.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Utter bullshit ? OK

It is never my intention for my posts to be seen as utter bullshit, nor usually for them to bug people, especially for "quite some time" Somtimes i do feel tempted to 'slip something in' (so to speak) that i would imagine that would kick start or extend some kind of falling out. Im no fucking angel, and if someone has bugged me, it is sometimes because they have said something that hit some kind of raw nerve and im sometimes tempted to lash out (not saying this is the case here, in fact im saying this is not the case here) but i usually think beter of it. But i have noticed that I seem to be really very good at unitentionally bugging / offending / annoying people, and i'm far better at doing that than if i deliberately set out to do it, in those cases i nearly always end up coming off much worse in any such excahnges. So i usuallly try to avoid doing this.

Aplogies for jumping to all the wrong conclusions about connections and stuff if that's what the issue was, im sorry if such waffling without enaging brian has insulted, besmirched, or annoyed you.. No offence or malice was intended, and im sorry if any was caused.

Fuck im making a hash of this post, im clearly not 'seeing something' thats right infront of my nose. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, if im gonna make highly opinionated posts like i do sometimes then this is gonna be inevitable, nor any problem with people drawing my attention to things i may have said or done that have not been very clever. Even if this does sting for a while, especially if what they have said is true, i'd rather people be open and upftont with me, provided its not just a post to deliberatley provoke or put me down or a bunch of people ganging up to do so en masse. Anyway, more utter bullshit ramblings, your post was none of the above. I'm just confused. 8(

 

[Jabberwocky]

so... seems a bit quiet over here. i really wish i had of had the chance to try PV when it was around. much like i wished i could try mephedrone, it looks like i also missed out on this one too. however, i have obtained some a-pHp (not pvp) and actually, mixed with a lot of benzos or heroin, it's incredibly moorish and frankly it sounds just as cracked out as MDPV.

I've done some minor testing on it so far, but tonight is where it's started to shine as a drug (along with last night) really. I am using it nasally, and take eyeballed bumps every hour or so - dosage is very important with this chemical which is the first real point i'd like to make - as i think that this could be a hit for people wanting a replacement (for a while anyway). due to the density of the powder i'm eyeballing what appear to be around 20-60mg bumps at a time, as the effects really vary as you start to fuck around with higher doses. at the lower end of the spectrum you get quite focused, more alert and definite spells of euphoria that you can just simply bask in. my biggest issue with this shit is the muscle tightness and that comes in irrespective of whatever dose you've done. however once you start dosing higher the muscle tightness becomes much more apparent - and can be pretty uncomfortable and unsettling. the high increases, euphoria does too, but it becomes harder to concentrate on things for a long period of time. the high manifests into something different. here is where it starts bordering on the psychosis - and jesus christ it's easy to fall into that if you have benzos on hand, but also frankly if you just give into the drug WHICH IS EXTREMELY EASY TO DO.

at the moment i've taken 8mg flubromazepam, 10 diazepam, 1mg etizolam and 0.5 pyrazolam and the muscle stiffness is still apparent, however, i can take higher doses - and this what i would like to call the third plateau of effects for this drug. i haven't pushed it too far yet - i am seducted deeply by that psychotic element (which i've experienced on other drugs and i absolutely adore), however the muscular tension is restrain me. i'd fucking love to snort another line, but then i'd have to apply more benzos, etc. strangely when i took the diazepam i noticed that my chest was easing up quite substantially which leads me to believe it is muscular related tension. it gets more aggravated whenever i press it too - which offers me relief in the fact i'm not suffering anything too dangerous, but makes it hurt more.

when i was taking it with snorted heroin i essentially told myself to stop. i felt no chest or muscle tightness, but i was scared that i'd OD on H. unfortunately i've run out of heroin so i can't use some now or i'd love to. in fact i think i may take another diazepam.

i took my last line about 10-15 mins ago and the effects take a lil while to peak and get strong but now they are in full affect. i feel like a fucking god. no shadow people, but oh my god i feel great. i wish i was outside doing things, it would make things so much more damn interesting, but am confined within these four walls as i don't think people would generally agree with me while i'm in this sort of psychotic state. the only time i've experienced a stimulant psychosis was when i snorted an unknown red powder of my friends on top of AL-LAD and LSZ, fuck, i fiend that feeling - thats the problem with this stuff, it's so damn close to that feeling but the muscle tension just gets me angry. FUCK.

 

[SummerSerenade]

much like I wished I could try mephedrone, it looks like i also missed out on this one too

No. It's still out there.

PV though... hmm. Is it strange that it's one of the only drugs I've really been put off trying from what people have said on here? Despite not being put off anything that is arguably worse. I mean, crack? I'd still go for it. IV coke? Yeah, why not. Heroin? Been there, done that. But MDPV?! No way, that's dodgy shit. My logical thought process. 8)

Unknown red powder?! Red?! I can't imagine sticking anything unnaturally coloured up my nose, it just feels wrong somehow. Apart from blue meth, of course.

As for the rest, I can't comment having never done these drugs but I will say that I get muscle tightness of mephedrone which can be quite a pain so if you find a good solution let me know.

 

[Jabberwocky]

well yeah, but i mean pre-ban mephedrone. i know that i can obtain both MDPV and drone now, but i have absolutely no idea as to what the quality of them would be... I've tried crack, IV coke, IV heroin.... yeah it's good, but i like to explore the drugs that are going around. MDPV sounds like a whole different beast, frankly i'm trying to find out what that fucking red powder was!

yeah it probably wasn't the best of ideas consuming this what i can only refer to as devil powder, considering i had potent psychedelics in me, but oh my god, i can't begin to describe the euphoria - pure ignorant bliss type euphoria which reminded me of methamphetamine frankly, but wore off in around an hour. very psychotic inducing. aka i took a tiny bump and was walking around the room checking it all out, the first line i did i had a mini freak out - thought my heart would explode, i dunno, very hard to describe if i'm honest - but the darkness is what was so seductive about it. to be honest i think it was just a potent stimulant while under the influence of AL-LAD/LSZ. everything just became incredibly intense for the next hour or so in a dark, twisted fear and loathing-esque way. see when people say the stimulant takes over - i can't see MDPV doing that to me, but that stuff..... it grabbed me by the nuts and didn't let go.

only solution i've found is high dose benzos really. currently at 20mg diazepam, 8 flubromazepam, 1mg etizolam and 0.5 pyrazolam. a-php is wearing off now, time for another bump!

 

[SummerSerenade]

Pre ban, schme ban. I've you've never had it, you'll never know what you're missing. Like me. Fuck knows how it compares to the ol' days but there is lovely drone around at the moment - I'm lucky in that I seem to be one of the few people who can reliably get it (that's the impression I get on here anyway) because there is a lot of shit out there afaik but if you find decent stuff then it's beautiful.

MDPV sounds scary to me and I like stims. Maybe because I've only heard mainly negative stuff about it but I'm still wary and there's very few things that I have actually ruled out drugs wise so far. Did you end up having problems with IV coke/crack if you don't mind me asking? I'm just trying to find people who have managed to try them without getting hopelessly addicted.

 

[Shambles]

Although the tabloids had a stab at labelling MDPV as "Supercoke" for a while it never caught on cos hardly anybody likes the stuff even if it is "1000x the potency of cocaine" (their figure not mine (with words to that effect - the "1000x" bit was obviously the bit meant to terrify parents and hope a couple photegenic kids OD on it (or at least get into a state to compete with the ol' "Rip your scrote to the beat" meph madey-uppy story they'd just run)). It's really about as far from cocaine as it gets in some ways. Lots of ways actually. There are some passing similarities but mainly it's the fiending that gives crack a run for its money and I'd say wins. Trust me, you would not like MDPV. I'd leave that one off your ToDo list.

 

[lurching]

the ol' "Rip your scrote to the beat"

"You'll halve a ball!"

 

[mydrugbuddy]

No. Unknown red powder?! Red?! I can't imagine sticking anything unnaturally coloured up my nose, it just feels wrong somehow. Apart from blue meth, of course..

Red powder? Ive never seen red PV. I've not read all the recent posts in this thread but perhaps they meant that the powder turns into amber coloured liquid as you start to heat it, and then you vape the amber nectar. Without meaning to glorify or glamorise PV/drug taking, those amber pools of heated PV all set for vapeing are really quite a pleasure to behold. That is one of the pleasures of PV, you already seem to know about the many downsides to the substance.

 

[Jabberwocky]

lol i don't think it was PV, all i can say though is that if i knew what that powder was..... i'd essentially buy a kilo of it and die somewhere. it was like alpha-php with no muscle tightness (well i say that, but i was also on a high dose of AL-LAD) so i could have just been ignoring it. who the fuck knows. last night i essentially passed out taking benzos and had no idea where i put my alpha-php, needless to say i kinda was like wtf just now, though I'm on a dose of 200mg of bk-2c-b (which is weird, enjoyable weird, but weird). i got pretty angry at the fact that i'd lost my bag essentially. god it's not nice stuff is it? it's beautifully seductive........ for all the wrong reasons. super coke? nope. it's a completely different beast.

its frankly nothing like coke..... i'm talking from alpha-php point of view, i dont know about MDPV but i'm guessing its quite similar based on all the reports etc... the only thing that is similar is that you want to redose compulsively, but the high is psychotic - and thats whats so seductive about it in my opinion.

 

[Nicklazz]

Not much action in this thread anymore.

Started to miss me sum MDPV, even a-pvp would do it. Must not tho'

 

[Shambles]

Funny you should bump this thread, Nick... Also, don't read the rest of this post.

Got through 500mg in under 48h this weekend. That's quite a lot. Had already been up for ~3 days on 2-FA and in hindsight this seemed to cushion the blow massively. Wasn't that it had little to no effect (cos it did) so much as I jumped straight to the "being able to take a metric fucktonne per hit" stage almost instantly. Almost all of it was taken by the bongload instead of my usual (due to necessity) building up with tinfoil vaping for the first couple days. Actually managed to get more fukked but less fukked up than I have in ages. Not that I'm recommending that particular method as it still involved 2g of 2-FA + 500mg of peev = awake for 5 days straight... which is my usualy awakey time for the latter alone only without the going a bit nutzo aspect.

Also of note (for me at least, possibly for others) was that the current batch of peev tasted very specifically like the early batches of "white peev" from years back - very... "nutty" tasting. Like toasted nutjuice perhaps. Much more "speedy" but not so heavy on the mongo stuff. Also the randiest batch of peev I've had in a dog's age. Seems like somebody somewhere has arranged the stuff to go out (of as easy as it has been for the last few years to acquire) with a bit of a bang... or they're shifting ancient stock from back when the quality was more consistently upbeat than has necessarily been the case for a while.

Was messy, but more in the way it used to be messy a few years back rather than the expected week or so of Elven fukkery. It's almost like somebody somewhere wants to remind folk of just how nice peev can be

 

[ColtDan]

Do you rate 2-FA decently?

 

[Shambles]

I rate it yeah. I'm very fond of speedyspeedy stims though and 2-FA feels a lot like phet used to before it was all "base". Doesn't have quite the euphoric edge that good speed does but it's as close to oldskool sulphate powder as anybody is likely to come these days.

 

[ColtDan]

Might have to give it another try sometime. got a batch awhile ago and didnt feel as stimulating as 4-FA, but felt smoother and more re-dosable. as far as i can remember. was tempted to try the FMA versions of both as well but havent bothered yet

 

[Shambles]

I really didn't like the FMA version of either. In both cases they felt like the FA equivalent only murkier and generally a bit shitter. Won't be bothering with either again myself but am still a big fan of both 2-FA and 4-FA - brilliant lil chems for their respective purposes.

I wouldn't really compare 2-FA with 4-FA as directly as one being more or less stimulating than t'other. 2-FA is about twice as potent (subjectively and for me anyway) so I use about half the dose (bit less than half actually) of 2-FA as I would with 4-FA to reach a broadly similar level of intenstity of effect. Those effects are really quite different though so hard to compare.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I haven't logged in here in months but I still lurk everyday. How is it going fellow Peev fiends? Figured I stop by and update on my progress.

I have been clean from mdpv now for around 8 months. I have used mdpv a lot since I first fell in love with it back in 2007. I was a daily abuser from 2010 to the end of 2013. Ive been to heaven, hell and back with mdpv. I miss it so much.

When I finally stopped using I was bed ridden for almost 2 weeks. Basically just slept 24 hours a day the whole time. The following months were spent in bed watching TV non stop. I had zero motivation to do anything and I was horribly depressed. Wellbutrin was prescribed by my doctor which was helpful but by no means a cure.

Now after 8 months of being clean I still struggle with a general lack of motivation as well as depression that comes and goes. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about using but its manageable now. I still dream about using almost nightly. The dreams used to torment me but lately I actually enjoy them... its like I get use without any of the consequences.

About a month ago I tried kratom and found it to fill the massive void left from years of mdpv use. I don't use much... just enough to get the stimulating effects. Its so nice. I have the energy and motivation to do things without the hell that comes with using a stimulant. I feel like Ive gotten my life back. Sure, it sucks that Im using a drug again but so far it has been worth it.

I have been so tempted to order some mdpv ever since I heard about the EU ban. Luckily I have not given in and I truly believe I will not. I think that chapter of my life (stimulants) is finally behind me.

Hope you are all doing well.

 

[Shambles]

Always a pleasure to see you around these parts, Mr Psycosis

Many congrats on the peevish absence. Obvious warnings about getting too deep in the kratom (opiate + SNRI = w/d from hell like you'd never believe ) but, that aside, mostly Good News

EU ban a-looming... but it's not like it's actually gonna disappear off the face of the Earth or owt. Is niche but that's it's saving point - it's very niche and that niche wil keep on keeping on no matter what so will always be available.

Having said that, am aiming to make the EU ban something of a cut-off point... possibly. Seems a sensible opportunity to make the effort not to go looking too deeply anyway. Will see how that works out. For the meantime, EU peev is almost as good as it's ever been. Back to early "white peev" quality at last. Shame they left it so late

... or is it?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

For the meantime, EU peev is almost as good as it's ever been. Back to early "white peev" quality at last. Shame they left it so late

I almost wish I hadn't read that shambles Makes my mouth water like crazy.

Reminds me of this awesome white pv I used to get from a uk vendor back in 2007/2008. The stuff was strong and wickedly compulsive (perhaps because I was still new to mdpv and in the honeymoon phase?). Used to buy the stuff 10 grams at a time. What a wild time that was!

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

You're pretty good now man, stay with it?