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best comedown methods?

yeah i believe so, someone with a heavy opiate tolerance probably wont get much out of kratom. Though kratom isnt just an opiate receptor agonist, it hits a fuckload of other brain chemistry stuff that makes you feel good. The opiate effects are pretty weak, but the effects on the andrenergeric (sp?) system of certain strains make it a fucking good stim, it also affects the NE receptors (i think), but i dont really know what that means. 8( Different strains have very different effects, red vein borneo is far more opiate like than red vein thai, which is essentially just a fucking excellent stimulant.
 
Am gonna have to get some of the red vein, been meaning to try it for awhile
 
Borneo or Thai ? Huge difference. The first is chilled out warm and fluffies, the other will have you whizzing around at 100 mph. Both are definately worth trying. First time is amazing, the effects on music are amazing, sadly the intensity of those effects doesnt last for some reason if you use it even semi-regularly.
 
Mitragyna speciosa (ketum,[2] kratom or kratum,[3] Thai: กระท่อม) is a tropical deciduous and evergreen tree in the coffee family (Rubiaceae) native to Southeast Asia in the Indochina and Malesia floristic regions. Its leaves are used for medicinal properties. It is psychoactive, and leaves are chewed to uplift mood and to treat health problems.[4] M. speciosa is indigenous to Thailand and, despite growing naturally in the country, has been outlawed for 70 years and was originally banned because it was reducing the Thai government's tax revenue from opium distribution.[4]

Kratom behaves as a μ-opioid receptor agonist like morphine[5] and is used in the management of chronic pain, as well as recreationally.[6] Kratom use is not detected by typical drug screening tests, but its metabolites can be detected by more specialized testing.[7][8] The pharmacological effects of kratom on humans, including its efficacy and safety, are not well-studied.[5] Most side effects of kratom are thought to be mild, although isolated serious adverse effects such as psychosis, convulsions, hallucinations, and confusion have been reported rarely.[4] There has been a reported case in which chronic use of M. speciosa was associated with bowel obstruction, as well as anecdotal reports stating that the plant carries the potential for addiction and can lead to withdrawal symptoms.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah, its only £7 + £1 for four youghurts to consume it with.
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Yoghurt is the best way to consume it with i assume? can i neck the stuff with water out of the bag? capsule it? gonna properly look into it tomorrow. swampy really rates it, as do other people i've seen talk about it, worth a dabble. altho overall havent seen it mentioned much. what does it mix with booze like? would it be good for pubs or raving or whatever?
 
That flat feeling you get 8 hrs later isn't a comedown.

It's the urge to skull fuck the next idiot who asks you a stupid question while you are trying to do paper work three days later.
 
yoghurt is an easy method yes but i usually just try my best to swish a spoonful in my mouth with water then neck it. Some cant handle the taste but to me its just like green tea (which i like) its more the texture of the dry powder in your mouth thats the problem. Fuck cant wait to be reunited with the warm blanket of kratom loveliness now :) doesn't mix that well with booze if iirc. think it just made me nauseous recking both he kratom and alcohol buzz. On its own at the right dosage i find kratom on its own to be amazing. But a few times I tried it with some valerian and some weed which is a was a real nice combo!
 
Which strain etc do you prefer? am even more intrigued by this stuff now. headfuckface you've sold it to me
 
I prefer the green vein strains because they are both stimulating and relaxing and generally longer lasting. But most red vein strains will be sedating and white vein will be stimulating.
Maeng Da strains were difinately better quality from my vendor and iv read that they generally are better. (think maeng da means "pimp grade"). To get a more full experienced its best to mix different strains to get a bigger number of different alkaloids which compliment each other to make a nicer experience.

Only advice i have is to watch out for how moreish and addictive it can be although in saying that it is pretty forgiving even the WDs only last a few days and you have to be pretty much daily caning it for a good while to get any WDs.

ColtDan if you decide to get some why not get a sample pack? most decent vendors do them for like £25 or so and give you around 6 different strains.
 
a couple whiskies when im properly crashing and then lots of benzos washed down with beer.
when im benzodd up enough, a lil weed and then food. ill often be falling asleep as im eating.
then the next day: opiates. fee bags of gear and a few more benzos (pref diaz, clonaaz or xanax) and im blissed out and dont even know.what a comedown is.
 
smackydowners said:
a couple whiskies when im properly crashing and then lots of benzos washed down with beer.
when im benzodd up enough, a lil weed and then food. ill often be falling asleep as im eating.
then the next day: opiates. fee bags of gear and a few more benzos (pref diaz, clonaaz or xanax) and im blissed out and dont even know.what a comedown is.
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and the day after? ;)
 
5-htp works fairly well too but I'm all out now and can't see myself buying any more too soon.
 
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