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[BecomingJulie]

Evey -- the BBcode colours are exactly the same as HTML colours, even down to the comment mark prefix. Basically, a 2-digit hex number each for the amount of red, green and blue light. [color=#5959ab]looks like this[/color].

Hex counting works like this: after 9 comes "a" (10 in decimal), then "b", "c", "d", "e", "f"; then 10 is 16 in decimal. The last digit is the units; the one before that is the sixteens. Using 2 hex digits you can count up to 255 decimal, then 256 is 100 in hex. It's useful in computing, because it's very, very easy to convert hex to binary; one hex digit (which can have any of 16 values, 0 to f) is directly equivalent to four binary digits which also have 16 possible values between them. And binary digits tend to hang around in multiples of 8 anyway .....

 

[Eveleivibe]

Yea they tried to explain that all when I did my HNC but I found a lot of it confusing n missed a lot of stuff being wrote on the blackboard / OHP n I couldn't see it.

Evey

 

[ScotchMist]

Do you mind me asking how long you've been on SSRIs? Reason I'm asking is I've almost been on them two years and they've never called me in for a review. Mind you, my surgery isn't the best either. When I asked them for help with my codeine addiction; told them I was on 900mg a day; my GP put me on 56 8/500 per month. I said could you put me on 28, 30/500 instead as it would be less paracetamol, a bit more codeine as they were asking me to drop too much. I did not get the HR in what I was saying. I asked over and over for pure codeine and was refused. Of course, I ended up abusing it.

It wasn't until I went there with my Mam that he gave me codeine phosphate with no paracetamol. That was only because my Mam went berserk with them n threatened to have them up with the medical council or whatever it was LOL.

But they basically treated me like a child after, talking to my parents on the phone about my addiction - I had to go and see another doctor to ask them not to tell my parents anything and keep my information private.

Evey

Only just seen this eve, erm, ive never used them at all, got kind of a bit freaked out by them and decided I was best off without them..

It was the first month scriot so I guess they wanted to see how I was getting on with them or not, if I needed to change to a different one or whatever.. as I said, I shelved them and glad I did, my life and mental state has improved ten fold.. lifes good

 

[Eveleivibe]

Only just seen this eve, erm, ive never used them at all, got kind of a bit freaked out by them and decided I was best off without them..

It was the first month scriot so I guess they wanted to see how I was getting on with them or not, if I needed to change to a different one or whatever.. as I said, I shelved them and glad I did, my life and mental state has improved ten fold.. lifes good

You probably did the right thing. Doctors give out SSRIs like sweets these days. And they don't even know the true cause of depression. Lack of reuptake of serotonin is just a guess. There's no blood tests for mental illness and they don't know what they're doing to the brain by adding extra serotonin to it. The brain communicates using neurotransmitters so thus adding more of one of them without factually knowing if there is a lack of it, in my opinion, is dangerous. I stupidly went on SSRIs (citalopram) when I was addicted, so was not in my right mind because I am usually totally against such things.

When one comes off them, I assume that the brain will assume that it has "not enough of" serotonin and thus would, in my opinion, do the opposite things that serotonin do. Ah hang on a mo, I've something I took a screen shot out of a course book I had for my degree, It mentions serotonin and MDMA but ya get the drift,



Evey

 

[Chatative]

You probably did the right thing. Doctors give out SSRIs like sweets these days. And they don't even know the true cause of depression. Lack of reuptake of serotonin is just a guess.

Too right... they are far too willing to give it to people.

I read something interesting that said the increase in serotonin doesn't actually do anything itself - if it did, you would feel the effects after your first dose. There is some suggestion that by some unknown mechanism, it essentially gives your brain a rest & allows it heal itself. Brain plasticity & all that. Seems plausible to me.

I plan to stay on my Citalopram until the end of the year probably.

 

[yoyo50]

They really do think they like magic pills, Citalopram made me feel sick for like 2 weeks, then tried prozac, no sickness but no effects, mirtazapine is working great because of the drowsiness, always wake up wanting breakfast, haven't eaten breakfast for many years, i know weight gain is common with SSRI's or heard the opposite too,

edit; after 160mg of 4-fa i tried chasing some it chases pretty much the same as meth on foil leaves nothing just white crystal like bug

 

[Shambles]

I read something interesting that said the increase in serotonin doesn't actually do anything itself - if it did, you would feel the effects after your first dose.

Can only speak for myself obviously but when I was first put on Seroxat/paroxetine I had to lie down for a good hour after taking it for the first week cos it hit me like... not exactly like MDMA but similarish - like MDMA's evil, twisted cousin. Was strange and very intense but stopped after the first week. Mostly just zombified me after the initial 3-6 month period. And then there's the withdrawals...

 

[oscthebooklad]

Why do so many of you smash the stimulants if you have serious mental problems that require, and have been prescribed by a medical professional, powerful antidepressants? I don't mean to judge at all but it baffles me why people indulge is blatant self-destructive behaviour.

 

[strungout2010]

Think it may have something to do with being drug pigs.

 

[yoyo50]

Done line of 100% cocaine made me emo for a year, had to go onto SSRI's, it's my yearly thing 8(

 

[swampdragon]

Think it may have something to do with being drug pigs.

Yeah, this. Annoyingly a good friend of mine is on antidepressants and he still hammers things, including serotonin-y stuff like MDMA.

 

[ColtDan]

Very silly, wouldnt risk that

 

[Shambles]

Why do so many of you smash the stimulants if you have serious mental problems that require, and have been prescribed by a medical professional, powerful antidepressants? I don't mean to judge at all but it baffles me why people indulge is blatant self-destructive behaviour.

Read back what you just typed - you answered your own question

Use of drugs is a very common 'symptom' of certain mental health issues. Sometimes for (arguably) self-medicating reasons, sometimes for darker reasons that you picked up on - self-destructive tendencies. And sometimes just cos drugs are great fun and provide blissful relief from horrid background issues. Albeit temporarily and with a bit of a rebound sometimes.

Antidepressants have their place but having been off and on various types my entire adult life I know that I function far better without them in the sense that I feel alive without them (and with my other lil chemical friends) than when on them when I don't care whether I live or die. I feel nothing which is worse than feeling just about anything else.

Obviously there are risks involved in any drug use in any situation. This applies to prescribed drugs too. Antidepressants come with serious side-effects for many. Suicide risk is increased in some people (actually a lot of people) on antidepressants. Give me a semi-regular night on MDMA or a bit of psychedelic therapy and I'm a happy bunny far more able to cope with life than I ever am on antidpressants.

 

[oscthebooklad]

Done line of 100% cocaine made me emo for a year, had to go onto SSRI's, it's my yearly thing 8(

jokes

 

[yoyo50]

washed it up so it was 100%, you know like it's 50/50% chance of winning the lottery you win or you don't.

 

[oscthebooklad]

. Give me a semi-regular night on MDMA or a bit of psychedelic therapy and I'm a happy bunny far more able to cope with life than I ever am on antidpressants.

hah amen to that. I like to believe that there is greater purpose to drug use than just textbook escapism, however. self-discovery, introspection, new perspectives etc

 

[yoyo50]

you got around to that DMT yet? Shambles

 

[mydrugbuddy]

do you not find that semi regular mdma depletes your serotonin atall shambles? When i took pills before i was on ADs they allways took a heavy toll on me over the following day(s).

 

[Shambles]

^ Generally speaking not that I notice - I usually get a decent afterglow actually. Sometimes I do get a crash (had a belter of one just recently) but they only seem to happen when I combine with other stims rather than using it by itself or combining with psyches.

hah amen to that. I like to believe that there is greater purpose to drug use than just textbook escapism, however. self-discovery, introspection, new perspectives etc

Agreed. It's possibly a bit of a cliche (no, it is a bit of a cliche) but... troubled types are often thought more likely to go in for that type of thing than perhaps the 'average' punter does so maybe that has something to do with it too.

you got around to that DMT yet? Shambles

As a matter of fact yes. Must've been good quality stuff too cos it was certainly one of the more potent batches I've sampled. Not quite breakthrough but I did split it cos... nevermind the 'cos' - it's really not that interesting but there was a cos and even then it got me further than some batches have done at double the dose. Good stuff that

 

[Eveleivibe]

They really do think they like magic pills, Citalopram made me feel sick for like 2 weeks, then tried prozac, no sickness but no effects, mirtazapine is working great because of the drowsiness, always wake up wanting breakfast, haven't eaten breakfast for many years, i know weight gain is common with SSRI's or heard the opposite too,

edit; after 160mg of 4-fa i tried chasing some it chases pretty much the same as meth on foil leaves nothing just white crystal like bug

I was INCREDIBILY angry on Mirtazapine and tried doing myself in. When I screamed and throw a toaster across the room, then absolutely sobbed my heart out as if the world was about to end, I knew it was time to ditch that crap n went back to citalopram. Anytime was better than Mirtazapine. I'd have either been in a loon bin or jail if I'd kept on that stuff.

Why do so many of you smash the stimulants if you have serious mental problems that require, and have been prescribed by a medical professional, powerful antidepressants? I don't mean to judge at all but it baffles me why people indulge is blatant self-destructive behaviour.

I've never take stims but I took opiates n because it's better than the complete emptiness of life where every minute seems like a whole life and you're waiting for bed so you don't have to existing feeling that endless shite called life - they make life worth living. That was my reasoning along with a few others, and I can't speak for others but escapism I'd imagine - pretty much what Shambles said.

Evey