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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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Oldred3s said:
Also wanted to add that I have been on a break since the start of march this year from MDMA Donovan try and get my tolerance to a more affordable level, this weekend I am getting on it. I have a brown diamond which is MDA based and I have a couple of caps wieghed up to 140-150mg and I would really like to do a MDA/MDMA combo. I don't think I have knowingly done this comb before but I have combined just about every other available drug with MDMA and can handle my shit. What I want to know is am I better off taking a cap and The pill at the same time or am I better off having the cap then pill or vice versa? I want the best possible outcome.
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MDA+MDMA is a beautiful combo, you'll love it.

Just remember MDA has a longer come up then MDMA in my experience by about 15-20 mins. I suggest taking the pill but as soon as you feel any affect at the start of the come up take a cap, I'm a fan of going for a high starting dose and as you are experienced I'm sure this will we be perfect for you. You can get some very good rushes and minor hallucinations when mixing these two. I've heard several people including experienced bluelighters say it is their favourite combo and I have preferred it to K+MDMA+weed.

Have fun oldred =)
 
I wouldn't stagger the two I'd just munch them and then re-up after the peak.
Always had better times on the late 90's early 2000's pills maybe because many were a MDA MDMA mix. Like many substances maybe there's some kind of synergy between the two making it greater than the sum of its parts.
For me sniffing MD is always a more euphoric but shorter experience, except a few batches which didn't seem to work at all nasally.
 
Cheers for the advice guys. Pretty fucking keen to try this combo. I have been for ages but I've never had access to both substances until now. It's either been one or the other and to be honest it's been rare for me to get MDA.
Ill definitely be writing a report on the experience in here for you guys to have a read
 
fyi, Psilosaubnaut (An old Bl senior mod) once told me 120mg MDMA + 80mg MDA as the perfect combo. So keep that in midn when choosing ure dose.
 
^ Seems like a pretty high dose to me honestly, usually when people are combo'ing drugs for the first time it is suggested that they take less of each drug than they usually would on its own. 120mg of MDMA is a pretty decent dose by anyone who isn't using way too much's standards I would think.

According to erowid an average dose of MDMA is 75-125mg of and an average dose of MDA is 100-150mg. Keeping that in mind I would think 70-80mg of MDA would be fine but I would dial the MDMA down a touch to 90mg or so and see how you go.

I used to take way too many pills back in the day, got to the point where I needed to double and triple drop to get effects from taking it and I pretty much considered that I had lost the magic. Took a few years or so off and had 1.5 pills that were only supposed to be about 60mg of MDMA and that was enough to put me on my arse pretty unexpectedly for an hour or two. You can always take more but you can't take less.
 
I'd agree to anyone who is still relatively new to drugs, but for some who has been smoking weed for 20+ years I'd suspect he/she could handle a high dose and would get more enjoyment out of it. But from a HR perspective I agree.
 
I understand that you were giving that dosage advice to somebody who you perceive to be experienced with drugs but I just wanted to point out the doses you listed were pretty high for a first time mixing those drugs, a lot of people do read these forums and they are often unaware of specific posters history. I think a lot of less experienced or smaller people would be pretty overwhelmed by the dose you listed, especially if they weren't overly familiar with MDxx drugs, and for some people a dose like that could be dangerous.

I have to say though, you have lost me at "but for some who has been smoking weed for 20+ years I'd suspect he/she could handle a high dose and would get more enjoyment out of it", I don't understand how any period of time smoking cannabis could possibly correlate to them having a higher tolerance to the effects of amphetamines? Why could one not make the same assumption of somebody who drank alcohol for 20 years? To me that just doesn't follow. If anything, somebody who has smoked something for 20 years would likely have a weaker heart and lungs than the average person and be slightly more likely to encounter cardiovascular issues when taking 200mg of amphetamines at once.
 
First time taking MDMA...should I take one or two caps?

Buying two caps, haven't a clue what the purity is (hopefully it is MDMA to begin with!).

The guy i'm buying from has a lot of experience with MDMA, and he "believes" they are good quality. In other words, I assume they will be decent caps.

Really torn on whether i'm going to take both or just one.



So my question to you bluelight is...

When you have taken MDMA, has one pill been enough to enjoy decent (strong) effects?

I know it varies substantially, but maybe I can get a group consensus from your collective experiences lol.

The caps in question will be coming from the Newcastle area in NSW.
 
Hi energysausage.

I've merged your thread into the MDxx discussion thread.

I'm not to well versed with MDMA these days (broke my brain on the shit in the past), but I'm sure there's someone around here that can help you with your question.

I myself would deffinetly aquire an EZ test, and test my drugs before eating them.
 
Okay no problem thanks for that.

And no doubt testing it would be the smartest option, but I know it's not going to happen this time. (maybe one day i'll be smart and buy one)
 
I doubt people selling such stuff are going to ever tell you they are weak or shit hey , without testing it you could be having anything tho as you know.

You'd be wise to get a test kit, especially in Aus's MDxx climate -

I got one of these and was happy -

http://ecstasypilltest.com

1 pink pill I got a while ago got thrown out as it didn't test positive for MDxx.
 
Yeah I know you are right with that. I should mention though, that i'm not actually buying directly from a dealer. A friend (the experienced one) is purchasing them for me off someone who is/was I assume, his go-to drug dude. My friend used to take MDMA apparently every weekend last year (doesn't anymore for obvious reasons) but this leads me to believe he would at least have a reliable contact.



Also, for some reason I neglected to mention this in my OP, but this will be my first time using MDMA (hopefully anyway).
 
Cool hopefully you have a mad time.

Just take the first one and see how you go on them. Re-dose if you need to, have some close mates around.

When you have taken MDMA, has one pill been enough to enjoy decent (strong) effects?

I know it varies substantially, but maybe I can get a group consensus from your collective experiences lol.
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As you know it always varies so much, sometimes they can be really piss weak or do next to nothing, and some can be pretty strong, just take care, especially since you have no tolerance to it.
 
drug_mentor said:
I understand that you were giving that dosage advice to somebody who you perceive to be experienced with drugs but I just wanted to point out the doses you listed were pretty high for a first time mixing those drugs, a lot of people do read these forums and they are often unaware of specific posters history. I think a lot of less experienced or smaller people would be pretty overwhelmed by the dose you listed, especially if they weren't overly familiar with MDxx drugs, and for some people a dose like that could be dangerous.

I have to say though, you have lost me at "but for some who has been smoking weed for 20+ years I'd suspect he/she could handle a high dose and would get more enjoyment out of it", I don't understand how any period of time smoking cannabis could possibly correlate to them having a higher tolerance to the effects of amphetamines? Why could one not make the same assumption of somebody who drank alcohol for 20 years? To me that just doesn't follow. If anything, somebody who has smoked something for 20 years would likely have a weaker heart and lungs than the average person and be slightly more likely to encounter cardiovascular issues when taking 200mg of amphetamines at once.
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You're right that I probably should be a bit more careful with the advice I give, but I see this forum as a place to discuss openly, and the dose I recommended I would recommend to my friends in real life who were going to try the combo together for the first time provided they have decent experience with MDMA.

The 20 years smoking wasn't the reason I knew he was experienced, he also said this
I don't think I have knowingly done this comb before but I have combined just about every other available drug with MDMA and can handle my shit.
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So I don't think it's unreasonable to expect he would want a good mixed dose of MDMA + MDA.
 
So I tried my combo Saturday night. I are the MDA pill and then 20 minutes later ate a cap that weighed 140mg. I came up about 40 mind later, very gradually. The high was very mild. Pretty shit experience to be honest. Those brown diamonds are shit and the MDMA I had (which tested positive for MDMA across a full test kit) was shit. I ate another cap 2 hours later. Very subtle effects considering I consumed near 3 points of MDMA and an MDA pill. I have been off all chemicals for 4 1/2 months. No mad peak, no eye wiggles, no visuals, sweet fuck all, just the feeling you have after the peak. Ended up getting shouted a few lines of coke later on.
Seriously the MDMA/ ecstasy scene in aus is shit.
The gig I was at was fuckin sick tho.
 
^ Yeah, sounds similar to the last however many times I have tried pills and caps, they seem to test up ok and are just shit. Even after much longer breaks than you had. It's fucked and a waste of money so I dont bother anymore, which sux cos I used to love that feeling.
 
Same here. Over it. I'm just gonna stick to doing acid from now on.even tho I rarely get on it these days. Can't be fucked puttin my money into the pockets of shit drug dealers. Can't believe how much the scene changed. All the honest ones are now either dead or locked up and the scene is full of greedy fucks that don't give 2 shits about anything other than making a quick buck.
 
MDxx can be stacked with 10mg to 20mg of Baclofen to avoid overheating. It's the overheating of MDxx (such as MDA, MDMA, MDEA, ect) that causes deaths, not MDxx itself. Baclofen has body regulating properties that help in harm reduction by preventing overheating from other drugs.
 
That's a pretty good tip but MDMA in reasonable doses doesn't make you over heat, it's the dancing and environment in which it is taken that makes people over heat and if coarse taking rediculous amounts of it. Just keep the fluids up but don't over do it and take a break from dancing every now and then and you'll be fine. To be honest, consuming other drugs with other drugs isn't really harm reduction at all.
 
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