Thanks INTERESTING, i've actually tried moxy and enjoyed it very much allthough i would say it's further on the psychadelic side IME...
EDIT (IME 25i-nbom is a good psych/empathogen and i'm on an SSRI's and never had anyy side effects except once when i sniffed 20mg of 25C-nbome and OD'ed which was really dumb, but with 25i i've had only very positive experiences)
Of the 2C-x i found 2C-E to be the most fun and trippy, but have also tried 2C-I allthough i can't remember it detail. What would you say is the most MDMA'esque 2C-x or 25x-nbome?
LAstly if anyone has info on the APB+SSRI's would be interested to hear experiences.
cheers
I don't think you can expect to get significantly different results from the APBs than from MDA, or from the MAPBs from MDMA. They're all serotonin releasers with a generally similar effects profile--not to say that they aren't qualitatively unique in their experiences, but if MDMA doesn't work then 5-mapb probably won't either.
That being said, you might be able to get an APB--or MDMA or MDA--to work for you with a higher dose. I don't think there's any evidence suggesting that it's a dangerous combination. Rather, it's just an expensive and potentially wasteful one. Give it a shot if you like.
It's interesting to me that you found moxy to be psychedelic--as that was distinctly not my experience--but I would be willing to wager that, if you found even that drug too psychedelic in comparison to its empathogenic effects, you're not going to find much of anything in the psychedelic class to offer you.
Maybe foxy or 5-meo-dmt at a
very low dosage?
I refuse to try nbomes, and I came to the RC scene after most 2C-Xs were banned where I live. So I can't comment specifically in regards to those. My experiences with DOC didn't have any empathogenic effects worth mentioning, but I can't necessarily extend that to other phenethylamines.
LSA from hawaiian baby woodrose seeds was
amazingly empathetic for me. I was at a large party/dance at my college, and I felt like I could totally understand and relate to every person in the room, and I badly wanted to solve all their problems. Actually it gave me really powerful tactile enhancement as well--water felt
so wet and the weight of my sweater on my shoulders just felt extremely heavy. However, there was no "body high" to speak of. Not even any significant euphoria. And the nausea kept me lying down for most of the trip. Plus it's sedating. So all in all, I think it could be a phenomenal
empathogen in the very literal sense, but it's certainly no party-drug, and it's certainly no MDMA replacement.
This won't be the same at all, really... but you can probably play with your serotonin a bit through rapidly acting reuptake inhibitors, rather than releasers. IE. Kanna or Cocaine. It's no roll, of course, but it might do something for you.
I'm guessing she has to be off it at least a year before she can roll just the slightest, and perhaps several years before she can roll properly (if ever)...
) But with people dropping like flies all around with this one, i've decided to stop taking them (sekio gave me some good advice and a clear warning on the nbomes)