Gibberings CLXXI: No Twattery Allowed - Waiting on Raas's Call

[Sammy G]

Yeah, as long as it's a well-fitting suit and they're not fat. A mate of mine who's 23 turned up to a psytrance night in a suit and looked gorgeous. (Though he spoiled the effect with coketalk telling me repeatedly how much his expensive suit cost.. 8))

That's the thing - well fitted. You can spend thousands on some big label off-the-peg number and look like shit, which is what the majority of these guys seem to do. Before the popularisation of big-name-designer menswear, this wasn't a problem, as nearly all suits were bespoke, or otherwise properly fitted. Not to mention altered accordingly with the wearer's changing measurements.

Joe - re: drug photography. You've not offended me. You're just horribly, horribly wrong.

Drug photography can get a bit old, yeah, but hash porn and LSD blotter art (apart from that overrated Alex Grey hippy shit or anything pretentiously 'spiritual') can keep me occupied for hours.

 

[SummerSerenade]

Drugs and food are the only things I have pictures of on my phone pretty much. 8) I like taking pictures of things I cook so I can look back and remember to do them again and I take pictures of meals out just to remember where I've been really. I've never minded looking like a twat anyway so I have no shame taking my phone out to get a few snaps of my meal.

I like suits on young guys as well, has to be the right person/right suit though definitely. I think some guys never look right in suits no matter how well made they are. If I was a bloke I think I'd make a habit of wearing suits though, it's one of the only things I feel like girls are really missing out on clothing wise.

 

[swampdragon]

Whaat? Suits exist for girls, you know. I have some lovely ones.. have never worn them outside work, mind, but that might have to change now I'm an unemployed hippie.

 

[Sammy G]

Trouser suits only ever looked cool on Nico.

As for skirt suits, they can look pretty good especially with those big silk scarves that women in sixties America seemed to love.

Both are still far sexier if the wearer is forty or over and has a substantial (but not fat) arse.

 

[swampdragon]

Nah, I can only really do skirt suits.. trousers look a bit shit on me usually. I'm under 40 and have a fairly average arse, though I might nick your style advice on the silk scarf.

Do you not have work to do, btw? Are you not ashamed of stealing money from your employer?

 

[Sammy G]

Yep. Stealing shamelessly.

And yeah, I have work to do, but like a lot of my work, it needs input and approval from above, which I'm still awaiting. So in the meantime I'm at a loose end, whereas yesterday it was (more or less) flat out.

Though I can just log out if you'd rather I did, y'know? I have other corners of the internet that would cherish my presence. :D

Btw, what's an 'average arse'?

 

[swampdragon]

Oh no, it's fine, please give me some more fashion tips.

And I know what that's like.. my old job involved a lot of waiting around on other people. It got pretty boring when there was more waiting than doing, sadly. Been far busier when travelling around, weirdly.. this is my first day doing fuck all in about 6 weeks.

And it's one that's neither particularly small nor big, I guess. It's just.. there.

 

[Sammy G]

And it's one that's neither particularly small nor big, I guess. It's just.. there.

No such thing as an 'average' arse. And sheer size alone isn't the yardstick for what I meant by 'substantial' either, in case anybody misunderstood.

Jesus, I just had to delete a paragraph of me chunnering on and on, and on about women's bottoms. That's really sad, isn't it? 8)

 

[swampdragon]

Uhuh. Hah, I'm sorry to have missed out on reading that.. it's good to be enthusiastic, I guess.

And in that case, I have no idea how substantial it is.

 

[Bearlove]

Aw, fuck. Food photography seriously makes me feel ill. 8)

It''s probably the equivalent of an average sane person looking at a picture of a corpse. Which it often is in the case of meat, but... no.

Just a step up from photographing turds.

Thankfully a few steps up than collecting pissy shoes 8)

 

[Bearlove]

Good afternoon fine folk of EADD - I hope everyone is having a good one.

 

[Sammy G]

Thankfully a few steps up than collecting pissy shoes 8)

I knew I'd upset you!

Your food photography is different, because most of the stuff you make looks absolutely lush. And besides, I did clearly state that I don't consider my aversion to food photos to be in any way 'normal'!

Hate to break it to you (though I already have elsewhere, so I may as well) but the pissy boots story was complete fabrication, from start to finish.

Except for the fetish for certain varieties of women's footwear. That bit was gospel, guv.

 

[Septonn]

So apparently Dam square has just been completely evacuated due to a bomb scare in a warehouse. My flatmate works next to said warehouse

 

[spacejunk]

That's the thing - well fitted. You can spend thousands on some big label off-the-peg number and look like shit, which is what the majority of these guys seem to do. Before the popularisation of big-name-designer menswear, this wasn't a problem, as nearly all suits were bespoke, or otherwise properly fitted. Not to mention altered accordingly with the wearer's changing measurements.

Hehe the most expensive suit I ever bought was $40 AU.
Second-hand, tight mod woollen 60s number. Perfect cut - nice high lapels, slimline to fit my skinny frame, perfect arm and leg length...not a tailor in sight. Dumb luck I guess, but I have another with a similar cut, different colour, that cost all of $10. Which is about the price of a pair of cheap underwear. Not bad, I reckon.
I love to don a suit; it's not something expected of me, or even encouraged. But fuck it, I wear one better than any rich cunt I've ever come across (barring the over 60 crowd).
Leonard Cohen is really a fashion icon, to weirdos like me. Haha.

I really like the comment about sophistication not having anything to do with money - that's for damn sure.
One thing most swanky-dressed wanker guys get totally wrong these days is the shoes. A totally overlooked - and vitally important part of a sharp outfit.
Then again, it doesn't bother me at all that this is lost on most fellers.
Those hideous pointy-with-a-square-toe shoes worn with ill-fitting suits crack me up.
When look at photographs of the past - and how even gentlemen of extremely modest means managed to look so smart in their Sunday best (or whatever day warranted formalware) I realise far the younger generations have slipped, sartorially (generally speaking). I suppose well-made clothes are pretty much reserved for the rich or the dedicated second-hand clothes whore nowadays. Some of my few favourite garments are literally from other people's garbage. Trashcan chic.

 

[curious_24]

I don't like the whole suit thing. Why is that when you're playing at "business" (cos that's all it is really, a big game), you can only take someone seriously if they're wearing a particular type of trouser/jacket combo?

It's a load of outdated bollocks if your ask me. Which is probably why nobody does, but still :D

 

[Sammy G]

Leonard Cohen is really a fashion icon, to weirdos like me. Haha.

I might have known.

I've had similar good luck with vintage clothing, but I think certain body types lend themselves to that better than others.

When look at photographs of the past - and how even gentlemen of extremely modest means managed to look so smart in their Sunday best (or whatever day warranted formalware) I realise far the younger generations have slipped, sartorially (generally speaking). I suppose well-made clothes are pretty much reserved for the rich or the dedicated second-hand clothes whore nowadays. Some of my few favourite garments are literally from other people's garbage. Trashcan chic.

My grandfather on my mother's side had one hat for every day of the week, and they'd change with the season. Shoes were the same - always perfectly shined, used shoe trees with them and dedicated a couple of hours or so a week to caring for them. I think I saw him leave the house in a cardigan once, and that was unavoidable. Other than that, by modern standards he'd be considered a 'well dressed gent', whereas it was really just working class pride.

And yeah, well-made and reasonably-priced clothes are becoming increasingly scarce. Almost nonexistent. And at the same time, the old art of thrift-store shopping is dying out as 'vintage' becomes trendier and trendier.

Trashcan chic may be the only way.

 

[spacejunk]

Is true. I have over a dozen hand-stitched silk scarves found in a box on the side of the road.
For all the hate for "hipsters" these days, my only gripe with that "fashion" is the commodification of vintage shit that is not worn with style - just half arsed irony (or something). Not that I'm going to get into hipster bashing, as it has been my observation that the biggest hipster-haters are....hipsters.
A bit like how homophobes are very often in denial/de closet.
I like wearing socks and having brakes on my bicycle, but each to his/her own, I don't give a fuck.

But yes - natty dressing was once a sense of working class pride, or standard gentlemanly public attire; my grandfather would leave the workshop to go into town once a week to 'do business' (pre ATM and Internet banking days heh) and would always do so wearing a full suit, coat, and hat. Even in the middle of a fucking Australiam summer (40+ degrees in the shade). Crazy really, but that was the culture.
Impractical as hell, but quite the stylish aesthetic.
The lousy quality of suits these days is partly due to synthetic fabrics, partly due to sweatshop labour, partly due to a greater value of "comfort" over all else (not that I am knocking that, necessarily - but it seems like slobbiness/sloppiness is so ingrained as to have designated youthful suit wearers as bourgeois or yuppie cunts).

I like to challenge this on occasion. But not all occasions.
Feels good to be deliberately overdressed at times, especially when you know full well that your outfit cost less than half of a pair of fucking sweatshop Levi's.
Especially on an idle weekday when you're wandering around stoned when all the "wealthy suits" are workin' for The Man.

 

[Bearlove]

I knew I'd upset you!

Your food photography is different, because most of the stuff you make looks absolutely lush. And besides, I did clearly state that I don't consider my aversion to food photos to be in any way 'normal'!

Hate to break it to you (though I already have elsewhere, so I may as well) but the pissy boots story was complete fabrication, from start to finish.

Except for the fetish for certain varieties of women's footwear. That bit was gospel, guv.

Haha - I was reading your post thinking, err says Mr Pissy Converse ! (complete fabrication )

 

[ColtDan]

I dont properly follow football but what sort of a nutty dickhead runs around biting people lol.. has suarez or whatever hes called been watching too much of the walking dead.. proper weird

 

[Bearlove]

I dont properly follow football but what sort of a nutty dickhead runs around biting people lol.. has suarez or whatever hes called been watching too much of the walking dead.. proper weird

Third time he's done it - looking at a 24 match ban or possible being banned. Rial Madrid and Barcelona were both considering buying him for stupid prices - should be banned IMHO.