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Chicago Heroin v. Please refrain from offing yourself.

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@ dopeman.
Few things. Leavng urself 30$ until the next check is foolish

But anyway i went to my guy yesterday 2x and got 1.5 and 2 jabs...he didnt even have 3 which means waiting around which is a crappy feeling and almost a garantee a bust.
Besides if it is shit product youre out on all ur cash.

Take this advice. Start slow. The shit aint going anywhere.
 
What up Blue Lighters? New member here. I have lived in Chicago for about 2 years, but am pretty new to the game. Anyway in my travels I have been out west a few times and met a few PC's. I mostly get Batman and Stay High foils. One PC I messed with sells bags that are pretty fat almost = to 4 blows. Has anyone else seen this in CHI?
 
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^^^" $40.00=4 jabs"?...HA!...WTF!... Did they change name "sawbucks" to "jabs" or something??!!LOL!...No wonder everytime I ask for a jab I feel like I'm getting ripped off!!!=D
Why didn't you ppl. tell me something!!...Bastards!!! LOL!...I personally have never seen that in Chi. Seen garbage $50 sacks that looked like grams but never 4 jabs=$40...not even close. Batman imo, were always pretty "fat" but kind of lacking quality. Stay High, on the other hand, were just the opposite. Everytime I got stay highs, I thought I was getting shorted(but the quality made up for it)... And again, that's just my personal experience and I'm sure diff. tips have diff. shit. Batmans in foils? That's different. Did they jam the foil into the batman bag? I don't like foils personally unless I have gotten them before from the dude...If I can't see it I kind of don't want it.
I don't know wtf was in those 4 "jabs" for $40.00 that you were getting Seymourpee...but...Uh,I thought I had something...I got nothing...LOL!
...Idk, maybe I just misunderstood the post...
Have a safe weekend folks.
 
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Seymourpee said:
What up Blue Lighters? New member here. I have lived in Chicago for about 2 years, but am pretty new to the game. Anyway in my travels I have been out west a few times and met a few PC's. I mostly get Batman and Stay High foils. One PC I messed with sells 40$ bags that are pretty fat almost = to 4 jabs. Has anyone else seen this in CHI?
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What the hell are you talking about? Batman and stay high are dime/dub BAG logos.... foils are TIN foils folded up with blows inside that are usually taped with a certain color or not taped at all (its hit or miss) $40 bags almost = to 4 jabs? Now I KNOW you have no clue what youre talking about..

Heres a tip: Stop copping blows in chicago.. you clearly have no clue what youre doing and are likely getting ripped off/going to get robbed VERY soon (even though you probably won't realize when you do get robbed, lmao..)
 
WTF is this guy talking about? A $xx bag that equals 40 - 50 sawbucks, in quantity? Huh? SMP is that really what you meant? Like an 8-ball sized bag for $xx?

Wow. Sorry to extend the pricing talk, but that's just...something.

Anyway, 13 days clean here, and my head is just still like, nothing's going on. No interest or energy to do anything. I'm doing it - going to work, taking care of my family obligations, doing some work on the house today while it's not raining (actually, I'm on the f***ing computer right now, so that's BS...).............

But just no interest.....hope this breaks soon, or it might just be a good idea to get high again. lol.

And yeah, that Dopeman post - listen to the advice. If you"re gonna spend all your money, every paycheck, on trips to the WS for dope, one of two things gonna happen real quick -

1. you'll be sitting at 26th & Cal, cause nobody's gonna bail you out, or
2. you'll be standing outside the SouthShore line with a sign that says "just need $12 for a ticket to South Bend, please!", except you won't be going back to South Bend when you get that $. It'll be back to the WS, and sleeping outside somewhere...

Either way, go slow dude. Or plan ahead and buy a mini-van and a mattress....(insert Chris Farley joke here...)
 
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no doubt, no doubt...thanks WM. part of me says, i'm just dealing with the consequences of my actions, I'm well aware of that. you know where i'm coming from.

but it's trying my patience...and hopefully it's nothing more than that.

don't want this to continue into a poor me, whining post...

the other problem is, dope does make it better. for a while. but it has consequences. those of us who've been there, know that. sometimes, it's just hard to keep the consequences in full view, and getting immediate relief from whatever can be a strong motivator to use. There's a few things going on right now, health-wise, that are a real bitch to deal with.


on monday I have a blood draw scheduled, so my Dr can check out a whole range of things. aside from the active using (which is not right now), there very well may be some imbalance somewhere that can be addressed. those of us that have been at this for a while, know how insidious this shit can be, and how all of it (the dope and the maintenance meds) can change you, chemically and physically.

so yeah, I'd rather be 13 days clean, than the opposite. but i also gotta figure out what's going on with my head, before I wind up using to solve the problem.
 
Congrats on 13 days NSB. From my experience, whenever I quit even for a prolonged amount of time(like 3-4 months[I know...to me seems like a long time to me]). I don't feel the same for WEEKS! and I'm not talking about the WDs, I'm talking about just feeling like a rag. No energy, no drive, depressed and everything is boring, so I suspect it's pretty normal to feel like that. Maybe not normal but I'm trying to say that you're not the only one that feels like that when you quit.
That feeling eventually subsides and goes away man. I usually kind of try to pep myself up with B12 vitamins for a while, just to give myself a little more energy(I usually take x4 the recommended daily dose[all you do is piss them out])
I have never told my Doc. that I use dope, cause then they will not prescribe me benzos(and I have to keep that option open...just in case)so I don't know what kind of psychological/physiological symptoms stem from long time heroin abuse.
All I'm trying to tell you, is I personally feel like "WTF! I did some irreversible damage","When am I gonna feel normal again" everytime I quit and then I gradually get back to my "normal"HA! self.
That's just my personal experience.
Shit. If it's gonna rain...RAIN already...I wanna go cut the grass.
 
Northside boy
What happened you were doing so good. That being said dont feel guilty abt it. Move on. You always have solid posts. Altho i dont know you i can tell ur a good guy. Stay up man. I know you can do this.
EnVee
 
thanks, brahs...bros..dudes...dopefiends...whatever, lol.

yeah, i know this will pass. i've been on and off so many times over the past 2 yrs, when i started this relapse, that i understand this comes with the territory. its just another hump to get over. that said, this last "kick" sucked, and i got much sicker than expected, and it's taking me longer to feel "normal" than i expected.

itchy - I already see 2 shrinks, one I've seen since before I got started in recovery, over 10 yrs ago, the other is an addiction specialist and is the suboxone doc. They are aware of each other, I have a legitimate benzo script, that's been part of the journey to try and stay "clean" (reference to the eternal "what is clean" debate in the other thread). I saw my family MD recently, he's the cat that's doing the blood work and the physical, to check all the levels - testosterone, vit D, thyroid, etc, etc, etc - I can't even think of them all.

Anyway, due to the wife and family, yes, I am committed to "doing" this, but the other addicted part of my brain says "yeah, fuck it all" from time to time, and that's what I have to watch out for. Because (like most of us) my fantasy is to just pick up a jab and chill out for a night or two. Relax, get high, listen to music, lay down....and that's not what happens...we all know that.

When I'm coming out of this, I figure since I'll be dealing with this for the rest of my life, what's the big deal...just give in and use once in a while. We're gonna go see how to Train Your Dragon Pt 2 in a little while. Maybe some popcorn will improve my attitude.

The whole staying clean for the rest of my life deal is daunting when I look at it like that - that's where the one day at a time thing becomes so valuable.

anyway, I'm just telling you shit you already know...and yeah, it sure looks like it's gonna rain.
 
There's the rain, bro.......and the NWS emergency Alert that I just got by text. Flash Floor Warning, Severe Thunderstorm Watch (70mph+ with 2in hail) and the Tornado Warning for further north.

Putting the car in the garage. Don't need the hail storm bodywork claim.

LAters.
 
Yeah NSB, I can't even fathom the struggle to keep myself sober for the rest of my life. From my point of view that's a dauntingly huge task. I just can't think in those parameters. Just being honest man.
But like they say, most cravings only last 15min. Easier said than done...but that's what the "experts" say anyway...idk.
LOL! I'm a lot too old for "How to train your dragon" but the last two Christmases it's been kind of like a tradition with us!! I don't know how(That and fn "Kung Fu Panda!!!) LMAO! I like it...Whatever.HA! Never saw the second one though. That "toothless" dragon reminds me of my dog maybe...idk.
WTF am I talking about!!?? Toothless dragons, Kung fu pandas!? Eh...whatever...
Yeah man, it rained pretty hard here...my dog went retarded!!!
Go see a movie with your family...it'll do you good.
Be safe ppl.
 
i wasting saying i was ganna spend my whole check on dope and if i did id bring half of it back for friends ect . . .

noone has to preach to me I know what the dope game is and what it can and will do to you. ive ben shootin dope sense i was 17 years old.

atleast a part of me will always be a junkie and im ok with that. its what i enjoy doing. hell im young maybe one day ill wise and and leave the shit alone for good. I dont see that happening but who knows what the futre holds. or maybe ill be living in an alley on the westside in a few months who knows.

Im hardly addicted at the moment. because of my finacial situation i only use maybe 5 days a week and just tuff it out on my non-using days no subs or anything even. the days I do use its only 1 bag so my tolerance is real low right now and withdraws are totally barable. And i start work monday so i probly wont be able to pick up/husstle money at all till i get my fist check in 2 weeks so im thinkin ill be totally clean by then. Ill probly just go back to my "weekend only" routine I stuck strong to the first 18 months I was shootin dope. I have the will power but I think itll be harder this time around because ive ben using daily or almost daily for the past 9 months. I have no desire to get clean I just want my tolerance to go down and use only on weekends just because I wanna be able to actually get that mind numbing euphoria you just dont get with daily use no matter how much you do its just not achievable. So the desire to get a good high s whats pushing me to slow down. kinda ironic ha.

Just did my shot and pizza rolls are about to come outta the oven. enjoy your saterday night fellow dopers.

Oh and its thunderstorming like a mf over here. whats it like in the city ?
 
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Oh yeah I forgot they were "experts". Kinda like my counselor that learned addiction treatment from a book not from living it. What a joke.
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People here probablly know more about addiction/treatment than any counselor that I've been to anyway.
Maybe I just haven't changed enough "people, places and things" or didn't go to the right rehabs, idk... Like I said BULLSHIT!
2 years ago I went through court mandated drug/alcohol "counceling"... "What a joke" that was.
 
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