Oxy and heroin is like comparing apples and pears IMO - very different high, heroin being far superior but then orses for corses
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Oxy and heroin is like comparing apples and pears IMO - very different high, heroin being far superior but then orses for corses
blimey a troll..... i have a hobby, taking heroin
joe90
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Not trolling surprised at your enthusiasm for heroin
Edit I didn't read your post fully Blondin. I was wrong
Edit I didn't read your post fully Blondin. I was wrong
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there's no reason those can't be the same thing. mr. gandhi's be the change, and all that.
alasdair
Agreed but I think a level head and clear thinking is a good starting point.
Well it is a drugs forum..now stop pestering me
joe90
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I think I'll pester you forever because I want too
Eveleivibe
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BACK!!!! Evening E A D D !!!!
Evey
Evey
joe90
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Get the wine out Evey. Go mad and have a 14% Rioja
Eveleivibe
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LOL that's like going to a car site and asking "Why you always discussing cars, can't you change the subject it's just plain old cars, cars and more bloody cars dammit!"
hahahahaha why is everyone that disagrees with someone or says something that a few don't approve of called a "troll," some of you ought to go check the meaning of the word, troll, out. A proper troll is not nice and being trolled is not nice. But it does make me giggle when the word keeps being thrown out so readily over the slightest little thing.
Joe I've got wine as next Monday I'm getting fit, PROPER, healthy, Evey style!!!! :D
Evey
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Perhaps the most astute comment I have ever heard from you Evey. :D
Fuck, I love Rioja... we bought an expensive bottle of the stuff whilst at some restaurant in Magaluf.
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Excellent analogy
Spliff Politics
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Its not so much the heroin is the problem here. I feel like picking up any drug and using it for a month a so; whether it be GBL, ketamine, crystal meth, benzos. I just feel like if i was to pick up a drug and go on a binge for this amount of time, then heroin would be the least detrimental to my health as crazy as that sounds.
GBL - Would have a great month, feel outgoing, soicalise a lot more, feel great, but the withdrawls will absolutely destroy me and dosing GBL 24/7 can be a tricky beast to tame
Ketamine - Would have no pysical withdrawls to speak of, but will be pretty much incapable of leading a normal life
Crystal meth (small oral doses) - Could go about my day, feeling on top of the world and seem more or-less sober, but once stopped the comedown would most probably leave me feeling suicidal and perhaps even result in fucking my brain up even further
Benzos - Whilst reducing my anxiety to a level where i could function in most jobs, when coming off of these i would be striaght up fucked
And finally Heroin - Buying a amount large enough to last me a couple weeks or so, during those weeks i will feel content, happy and be able to live my life normal and seem sober to other people. Of course withdrawals would be horrible once i stopped , but nothing compared to GBL or benzos. The other HUGE HUGE risk would be, carrying on using and becoming a full-time junkie, which would be worse than all of the above.
I know how pathetic this all sounds, that i need a drug to try and get through this difficult period and whilst i know i dont need one, the whole "fuck-it" ideolgy is strong. Its just all down to trying to find an appropriate job before i crave in.
Theres no-one i can speak to like this i real life life - so it really feels good to get it all out. Again, i cant stress enough how much good it is doing me to be getting support from people who could just ignore me
GBL - Would have a great month, feel outgoing, soicalise a lot more, feel great, but the withdrawls will absolutely destroy me and dosing GBL 24/7 can be a tricky beast to tame
Ketamine - Would have no pysical withdrawls to speak of, but will be pretty much incapable of leading a normal life
Crystal meth (small oral doses) - Could go about my day, feeling on top of the world and seem more or-less sober, but once stopped the comedown would most probably leave me feeling suicidal and perhaps even result in fucking my brain up even further
Benzos - Whilst reducing my anxiety to a level where i could function in most jobs, when coming off of these i would be striaght up fucked
And finally Heroin - Buying a amount large enough to last me a couple weeks or so, during those weeks i will feel content, happy and be able to live my life normal and seem sober to other people. Of course withdrawals would be horrible once i stopped , but nothing compared to GBL or benzos. The other HUGE HUGE risk would be, carrying on using and becoming a full-time junkie, which would be worse than all of the above.
I know how pathetic this all sounds, that i need a drug to try and get through this difficult period and whilst i know i dont need one, the whole "fuck-it" ideolgy is strong. Its just all down to trying to find an appropriate job before i crave in.
Theres no-one i can speak to like this i real life life - so it really feels good to get it all out. Again, i cant stress enough how much good it is doing me to be getting support from people who could just ignore me
Eveleivibe
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I know Dan used to go on a car forum n so it was the first thing that came to my mind LOL but I could have mentioned fitness forum lol
Seriously - thank you! :D
Evey
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I totally understand how you feel Spliff. I think most people on here are drawn to oblivion more than average. I've never had the option of heroin, but I'm sure I wouldn't have lasted as long as you keeping it manageable if I did. I managed to get myself addicted to codeine ( if we want to talk about pathetic) - nobody knows and that's probably the main reason I come here.
From reading your posts you sound like a smart guy, I'm sure things will pan out for you.
From reading your posts you sound like a smart guy, I'm sure things will pan out for you.
Eveleivibe
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Spliff - it's not pathetic. As you said, if I remember rightly, you're psychologically addicted to drugs, so that's your addiction talking to you - to plays with your minds, pecks at you when you're vulnerable. So, for instance, you've lost your job, so it's saying "Go on, take drugs for a month 0 go on a bender, you can escape!"
All that aside, the reason that people are talking to you the way they are about Heroin is because it's one of the most addictive drugs around - and with you at a vulnerable state (you may not see yourself that way, so call it whatever you wish) it will seduce you, lure you in and spit you out, so to speak. I was only addicted to codeine which is one of the weakest opiates - Heroin is one of the strongest, and that's why people are showing concern. It's basic HR and I think (I can't speak for others, obviously so this is just an observation) that people would feel uncomfortable if they sat back and didn't try to advise or offer support. In the same vein that I tried to with another member yesterday.
Being addicted to opiates is not nice. They leave you feeling empty (and I don't just mean in the wallet) and give you a false sense of reality that "all is right is the world n this is the miracle cure to all my problems, now I can take on anything and anyone" as they eat at your brain both physically and psychologically until you basically screwed... That's why people are looking out for you and advising about the Heroin.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, waffling on.
Evey
All that aside, the reason that people are talking to you the way they are about Heroin is because it's one of the most addictive drugs around - and with you at a vulnerable state (you may not see yourself that way, so call it whatever you wish) it will seduce you, lure you in and spit you out, so to speak. I was only addicted to codeine which is one of the weakest opiates - Heroin is one of the strongest, and that's why people are showing concern. It's basic HR and I think (I can't speak for others, obviously so this is just an observation) that people would feel uncomfortable if they sat back and didn't try to advise or offer support. In the same vein that I tried to with another member yesterday.
Being addicted to opiates is not nice. They leave you feeling empty (and I don't just mean in the wallet) and give you a false sense of reality that "all is right is the world n this is the miracle cure to all my problems, now I can take on anything and anyone" as they eat at your brain both physically and psychologically until you basically screwed... That's why people are looking out for you and advising about the Heroin.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, waffling on.
Evey
Its not so much the heroin is the problem here. I feel like picking up any drug and using it for a month a so; whether it be GBL, ketamine, crystal meth, benzos. I just feel like if i was to pick up a drug and go on a binge for this amount of time, then heroin would be the least detrimental to my health as crazy as that sounds.
GBL - Would have a great month, feel outgoing, soicalise a lot more, feel great, but the withdrawls will absolutely destroy me and dosing GBL 24/7 can be a tricky beast to tame
Ketamine - Would have no pysical withdrawls to speak of, but will be pretty much incapable of leading a normal life
Crystal meth (small oral doses) - Could go about my day, feeling on top of the world and seem more or-less sober, but once stopped the comedown would most probably leave me feeling suicidal and perhaps even result in fucking my brain up even further
Benzos - Whilst reducing my anxiety to a level where i could function in most jobs, when coming off of these i would be striaght up fucked
And finally Heroin - Buying a amount large enough to last me a couple weeks or so, during those weeks i will feel content, happy and be able to live my life normal and seem sober to other people. Of course withdrawals would be horrible once i stopped , but nothing compared to GBL or benzos. The other HUGE HUGE risk would be, carrying on using and becoming a full-time junkie, which would be worse than all of the above.
I know how pathetic this all sounds, that i need a drug to try and get through this difficult period and whilst i know i dont need one, the whole "fuck-it" ideolgy is strong. Its just all down to trying to find an appropriate job before i crave in.
Theres no-one i can speak to like this i real life life - so it really feels good to get it all out. Again, i cant stress enough how much good it is doing me to be getting support from people who could just ignore me
I can relate to this 100%. I struggle with anxiety and this is pretty much exactly my options. I'm currently in a job and seriously heroin is the only thing that seems possible to do. I'm trying not to though.
Edit: I'd just like to add i'm happy in my job. I'm happier since having it and my anxiety has reduced along with my drug problems. Just alcohol, and occais heroin atm. Lol @ occais heroin.
joe90
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I'm so glad I'm not fucked up (anymore)
I'm in the same boat. Do you ever get the feeling that eventually it's going to fucking get you? I do. This might be that time.