Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[Doldrugs]

Could be either one... I know plenty of people including myself that prefer single digit doses in terms of grams and a few people who have even gotten sick off the same. If youve tried a bunch of legit vendors tho and its the same you may just have a natural high tolerance to it

Whether they're legit or not depends on your definition, I guess. I mean, the stuff is active for sure. I just wish I could get more than one satisfying dose out of an ounce. Sometimes I get a free sample with my order but it's like a third of what I'd need to feel anything.

 

[Kaye24trynabattle]

It is a pretty big blow to the whole kratom market, it sucks so bad because this plant has done so much good in my life in the last year and a lot of legit vendors will be having a hard time paying the bills.

I am curious to see how this effects the headshop/brand name kratom companies like captain kratom and whatever. They might raise their prices even more or hopefully it puts them out of business.

i know that its said not to purchase kratom from headshops but it has been the easiest way for me to obtain it! they have the herbal salvation maeng da and i jumped from 2mg of subutex and had been on that almost 9 months thinking it would save me from my adiction..well these long drawn out w/ds suck and this herbal salvation brand of maeng da has done the trick to help me get through work.and am only taking 2g per dose sometime only 1.2g per dose(dosing twice mabey 3 times a day depending on how im feeling) and at these low doses it has helped me continue on my journey to sobriety...and be able to work and not act like a complete pshcyo(spell check)lol i belive the dose and effects do work diff on diff people but for me these low doses of kratom that i got from a headshop has been a life saver! all im sayin! also i want to add that i do not plan to continue to use kratom unless mabey here and there after my w/d symptoms are gone and im on day 16 and things are lighting up and getting better and im taking less kratom everyday and am very determined! what im getting at is 2mg of subutex may sound low but the shit is strong and if these low doses have worked to help ease this process for me, i know that they can help someone else out there too! even if purchased at a headshop! God bless!

 

[Mycophile]

The best thing is to get used to taking your dose in two sections. Take maybe 60 percent of what you think you need. Wait an hour and then figure out what you need from there. You'd be surprised sometimes its nothing. I take my kratom, klonopin, and even drink my first soda all at the same time every day so I don't have to worry about my body being out of routine. I really want to quit the kratom every day thing though I'm far too burned out on it. Kratom is one of those drugs that works WAY better if you only do it every now and then.

Hmm, that seems like a good idea for not feeling like shit from taking too much, which has been happening, but it's kind of tricky doing what you suggest it seems because it takes an hour for it to take full effect for me, so a lot of the time by the time I take more one dose is already about 1/3rd of the way through it's course and as I keep dosing the doses over lap and it gets hard to get it right cause I'm never quite sure how much is really in my system at any one time.

Do you have that problem, or do you feel like it's less of a problem with your "60% rule"??

Seeing as it does seem to be the biggest issue that I'm often taking too much, at least if I do what you say I'll at worst feel not high enough, which still better than feeling like shit from too much because then I don't even have the euphoria anymore since it goes away at that point.

I think better would be to try for smaller doses than usual and just hope that they are the correct one more than the "60% rule" cause preferably I'd like to get the dose right the first time but you and others seems to be right IMO that "less is more" with Kratom.

If it took less time to kick in redosing would be more practical.

And I also only do Kratom one day a week right now so that's good about it working better that way, however, that's also why I get so frustrated when I mess up my doses cause then I always have to make myself wait another week to do it again since I don't like to use it much more than that.

I guess next time I'll either just try to get it right with a smaller dose, or maybe try for like 85% of what I think I need, as 60% seems a bit too little...but it's still a good concept that could really help so thanks.

 

[weekend addiction]

Hmm, that seems like a good idea for not feeling like shit from taking too much, which has been happening, but it's kind of tricky doing what you suggest it seems because it takes an hour for it to take full effect for me, so a lot of the time by the time I take more one dose is already about 1/3rd of the way through it's course and as I keep dosing the doses over lap and it gets hard to get it right cause I'm never quite sure how much is really in my system at any one time.

Do you have that problem, or do you feel like it's less of a problem with your "60% rule"??

No its much easier. I said 60 but that's just a general idea. The idea is to go way on the low side so when you redose its a substantial redose. You won't get the buzz as quickly because basically your not even taking enough to get high for the first hour but it will last longer because your dosing this way of course. You can still take too much but its not as easy. Its like if you were drinking booze. Its easier to guess the right amount if you were to drink your drinks in two seperate rounds versus chugging the amount you think you need in one gulp.

 

[whiteroom67]

Hmm, that seems like a good idea for not feeling like shit from taking too much, which has been happening, but it's kind of tricky doing what you suggest it seems because it takes an hour for it to take full effect for me, so a lot of the time by the time I take more one dose is already about 1/3rd of the way through it's course and as I keep dosing the doses over lap and it gets hard to get it right cause I'm never quite sure how much is really in my system at any one time.

Do you have that problem, or do you feel like it's less of a problem with your "60% rule"??

Seeing as it does seem to be the biggest issue that I'm often taking too much, at least if I do what you say I'll at worst feel not high enough, which still better than feeling like shit from too much because then I don't even have the euphoria anymore since it goes away at that point.

I think better would be to try for smaller doses than usual and just hope that they are the correct one more than the "60% rule" cause preferably I'd like to get the dose right the first time but you and others seems to be right IMO that "less is more" with Kratom.

If it took less time to kick in redosing would be more practical.

And I also only do Kratom one day a week right now so that's good about it working better that way, however, that's also why I get so frustrated when I mess up my doses cause then I always have to make myself wait another week to do it again since I don't like to use it much more than that.

I guess next time I'll either just try to get it right with a smaller dose, or maybe try for like 85% of what I think I need, as 60% seems a bit too little...but it's still a good concept that could really help so thanks.

When I would take Kratom, I would "talk" to the plant with my mind. The same way Natives talk to the plants in the Rainforest, like in the Amazon, etc (how do you think Ayahuasca and all those other plant medicines were discovered?) Pick it up and "feel" if it's the right amount for you at that time or not. Don't think. Feel.

Sometimes I would take more Kratom, sometimes I would take less, but I would always feel and connect my gut instinct with the amount on the spoon, and very rarely would I miss my mark. Weird I know, but after awhile when you get acquainted with it, it's easy to work with it and know what you need personally at any given time. OK I am 8 days clean from it and still trying to go strong and this is triggering for me so I am going to stop now

 

[OrLackThereof]

I posted here a week or so ago about my personal experiment on Kratom's synergy or interaction with Buprenorphine.... Well being the good scientist that I am (ha), no results should be taken conclusively unless the experiment is repeatable....

While on steady Bupe maintenance, at a daily dosage of between 12 and 16 mg, I tried Kratom again. Last night near midnight I took a 4mg dose, then another 4mg dose around 9am this morning. None during the rest of the day because I didn't want the Bupe to potentially use up all available receptors... I dosed 5 grams of my favorite Maeng Da at 6:30pm. I did notice that the onset of action was delayed this time, and the effects weren't quite as pronounced, but never the less, after an hour and moving towards two hours, I did get some pleasant effects out of it and a small, pleasurable rush.

So given everything I know, my conclusion is that the Bupe may hinder some of the effects of Kratom but not entirely...I think they may share some receptors, but not all. I'm sure if I had taken a full dose today, or used them closer together, the effects would be less pronounced.. But those on maintenance treatment can still get effects out of Kratom, you just have to "schedule it" to get the most out of your money.

 

[tunesey]

I have some 20x Kratom resin what would be a good dose for someone who has tried leaf for a couple of times do I just eat some? what would be a good amount do I make tea, smoke it. I have tried leaf twice so I am a noob when it comes to extracts some advice would be welcom guys so thanks in advance

 

[tunesey]

I have some Kratom 20x resin and am a bit of a noob when it comes to Kratom. How much do I take do I eat it make tea out of it . I have tried the leaves a few times and wanted something a bit stronger but dont want to over do it any advice would be welcome so thanks in advance.

 

[southeast]

People keep recommending I get kratom to help stay off dope -- I see what kind I should get which is a start. But I just went through a nine day hell stretch from heroin withdrawal and I do not want that again-- how addictive is this stuff? I mean I'm sure it's better than heroin/ dilaudid/ opana/ febtanyl like I was doing BUT I'm in a delicate situation. Can't be withdrawaling.

 

[southeast]

And can you shoot this stuff? Don't judge.

 

[Berdo tm1]

...horrific and unimaginably painful.

when you say unimaginably painful form what sort of dosing is this from? surely on the more extreme/abusive end of the spectrum?

I simply want a reliable antidepressant which is generally regarded as safe that doesnt have the long term effects quesiton marks above it like ssris do, not looking for recreation but these horror stories keep scaring me off trying. tho it can be hard to ascertain if its just cos the individuals in question overdid it.

 

[tunesey]

I have some Kratom 20x resin and am a bit of a noob when it comes to Kratom. How much do I take do I eat it make tea out of it . I have tried the leaves a few times and wanted something a bit stronger but dont want to over do it any advice would be welcome so thanks in advance.

still no answer t my question I wany to try the resin but safely and dont wany to over do it can anybody help me please my queation has gone unanswered so far come on people adivce please thanks again

 

[sekio]

Most concentrates aren't anywhere near as potent as you'd expect, but if it's 20x resin, a reasonable starting dose is 1/20 of whatever you'd take as raw leaf.

 

[southeast]

I don't understand this stuff and I read the whole wikia page for it... People say it's like caffeine and opiate which is kind of an oxymoron to me.

 

[sekio]

It's stimulating and makes you feel content and reduces pain? Seems simple enough to me.

 

[Numb19]

My understanding is also that certain alkaloids are stronger in different strains, so some produce more opiate like effects while other strains are more energetic.

 

[Beavesmx44]

still no answer t my question I wany to try the resin but safely and dont wany to over do it can anybody help me please my queation has gone unanswered so far come on people adivce please thanks again

Your recent posts have been both demanding and frantic. Stop overdosing on drugs and being so compulsive.

And can you shoot this stuff? Don't judge.

Your looking into the wrong drug bud. Believe it was said taking kratom with that kind of habit is like trying to put out a forest fire by pissing on it. This one is not for you.

 

[Kaye24trynabattle]

I don't understand this stuff and I read the whole wikia page for it... People say it's like caffeine and opiate which is kind of an oxymoron to me.

all i know is it really helps reduce withdrawals...i was not sure of it untill i was in w/d and tried it and felt enough relief for me to stay strong and continue trying to stay clean and sober! 21 days subutex free! still in w/d tho...sooo looong ugggh

 

[Mycophile]

when you say unimaginably painful form what sort of dosing is this from? surely on the more extreme/abusive end of the spectrum?

I simply want a reliable antidepressant which is generally regarded as safe that doesnt have the long term effects quesiton marks above it like ssris do, not looking for recreation but these horror stories keep scaring me off trying. tho it can be hard to ascertain if its just cos the individuals in question overdid it.

I'm sure he overdid it, meaning multiple days a week in a row probably from the time he started, though I wont quote him cause I could be wrong but from reading his posts it sounds like he didn't really start off with the strict intention of moderating at all costs.

Not that that is always easy...far from it...just saying.

The problem is that you are talking about using it "as an antidepressant".

Anti depressants are usually used every day or probably at least every other day.

If you use Kratom like that sooner or later you will probably get addicted, and then unless you stay on it permanently, which some might choose to do which is fine...you will experience WDs.

I'd say if you are planning on using Kratom more than 2-3 times a week or are looking for something you can take with great frequency without getting addicted then you are looking at the wrong drug but it's just my opinion.

I'm still a noob with this stuff...but I wouldn't use it more than twice a week with a couple days of no usage in between...just for some fun, just like people who have one night a week on the weekends when they go out drinking.

Just be aware that using it regularly day after day is what gets people addicted.

But for use as an antidepressant, it would probably be effective, but like all other antidepressants or practically all drugs you would use more days than not...it will cause dependency if you don't moderate.

 

[Cuzie]

And can you shoot this stuff? Don't judge.

Oh man, please don't....