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UK Ketamine Shortage

Wait for an emergence from a full anaesthetic dose, it feels like being reborn in to the matrix at the same time as finally going totally senile (don't ask me what has driven me to perpetuate that in the past).
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Also, lazy uncooked ketamine. As someone who has abused the drug a great deal I can't help but have to look down on you here. If you had any more than a gram or so and access to a k pan the k abuser in me is lamentful of the fact you haven't bothered to cook it (and the junkie in me is angry you're not IVing it=D)

Otherwise...nice k dude, seems you have some of the first of the new lot back in the country. Weird the way the drought was so sudden, complete and short.
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I don't buy this cook your ketamine patter. I'm fully convinced that it does nothing (why would it do anything? It's hardly going to change the drug, is it?). Met a cunt at a festival who was obsessed with it, refusing to take shit that he hadn't recooked. He wasted a load of time and effort with a camp stove to prove his point. No difference at all.
 
parttime crackhead said:
I don't buy this cook your ketamine patter. I'm fully convinced that it does nothing (why would it do anything? It's hardly going to change the drug, is it?). Met a cunt at a festival who was obsessed with it, refusing to take shit that he hadn't recooked. He wasted a load of time and effort with a camp stove to prove his point. No difference at all.
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Here is someone who has never sold ketamine.

Easier to get a nice fine powder out on the fly too. Always cook it.

Given a gram or two bought at a festival then no I'm not about to though.
 
Never bothered to cook mine. although had some stuff that was harsh on my nose before and someone recommended cooking it, couldnt be assed though
 
parttime crackhead said:
Right, so that's your benefit? It's easier to get a fine powder?

Crushing it with a card too difficult??? :)
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Exactly. Can't believe people still swallow this 'cooking' palaver.

Cooking is what's done to produce powder from liquid ketamine when it's imported into the country in big bottles. Any further 'cooking' is just absolute nonsense, and will accomplish nothing that can't be done quicker and easier with a manky fiver, a disposable lighter and a little pressure.

Only makes sense if you have kilos of ket crystal to hand and want to sell it as powder, and that generally doesn't happen.
 
Sammy G said:
Exactly. Can't believe people still swallow this 'cooking' palaver.

Cooking is what's done to produce powder from liquid ketamine when it's imported into the country in big bottles. Any further 'cooking' is just absolute nonsense, and will accomplish nothing that can't be done quicker and easier with a manky fiver, a disposable lighter and a little pressure.

Only makes sense if you have kilos of ket crystal to hand and want to sell it as powder, and that generally doesn't happen.
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It makes every sense, done properly it won't damage your potency and it's much less harsh on the nose. When I started going to get bigger bits I was seeing crystal up to the size of almost a pea, cooking is the eaier route with this than crushing.

It makes sense if you're a small time shotter because cooking it fluffs your grams out and you can sell 0.9 or 0.8 a practice which I abhore. £15/g end of story.

The transition into buying bigger amounts people will often bottle up a few litres because it aint no thing to have a couple of half drunk water bottles around. Last time I was presented with the option of bying a large anount I just had 2kg put in front of me (dumb) and asked how much I wanted.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
It makes every sense, done properly it won't damage your potency and it's much less harsh on the nose. When I started going to get bigger bits I was seeing crystal up to the size of almost a pea, cooking is the eaier route with this than crushing.

It makes sense if you're a small time shotter because cooking it fluffs your grams out and you can sell 0.9 or 0.8 a practice which I abhore. £15/g end of story.
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I can understand the second point to an extent, but is there any proof that it appears significantly bulkier than ket which has been powdered by crushing? I can imagine a difference in texture - I've seen it, in fact, but it obviously can't actually increase the weight, and I'm skeptical about it creating quite the optical illusion you describe.

Can I imagine dealers doing it for the very reasons you describe though, mistakenly or otherwise? Yeah, most definitely. You may nopt be wrong.

As for it being less harsh on the nose, personal experience tells me that's not true. Ket isn't particularly harsh anyhow, unless you're snorting crystals. Which is probably what a lot of the converts to 'cooking' were doing beforehand.
 
The ketamine crystallises more quickly, ergo quicker adsorbtion. Basically.

edit: a cooked weighed gram looks miles bigger than a just crushed one.
 
Ok....the faster you evaporate a solvent off a solution the smaller crystsals it produces, or 'powder. As to why not cut it, because I have (some) friends with morals. You don't too anyway, a 0.9g of ketamine that has been cooked will look biger than 0.9g of k cut with something else.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Ok....the faster you evaporate a solvent off a solution the smaller crystsals it produces, or 'powder.
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Yes, yes, yes. Thank you very much indeed for the refresher course in kitchen chemistry. :D

But you can achieve much the same effect through crushing the crystals in a fraction of the time, with less potential for spoilage and without the need of a heat source and kitchenware.

That's the point crackhead and I have been trying to make for the past two pages, and no attempt at trying to make the recooking process sound more 'scientific' answers this.

Notice how you never heard of this recooking process before the appearance of adulterated ketamine in the mid-2000s? People would've laughed at the very suggestion.
 
parttime crackhead said:
You don't cut it because of morals but you cook it up so that it looks bigger and you can sell .8 as a gram? :?

My main concern is for the effect. Here you are banging on about a why a dealer should recook it, that was never the original point.
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No I don't, but some do, and it's easy to just put 20g of salt in a pan with 80g of ketamine....and hey presto 100g of ketamine!

...and all you're grams look bigger than next man who hasn't cooked it.
 
Sammy G said:
Notice how you never heard of this recooking process before the appearance of adulterated ketamine in the mid-2000s? People would've laughed at the very suggestion.
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Er, yes you did. It was absolutely bog standard from when I was involved about a decade ago, it dates from when actual vials from india would be cooked up. That's why a litre is called 50g (because that's what a litre of vial would have cooked up to), when really you can get it in 200ml.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
No I don't, but some do, and it's easy to just put 20g of salt in a pan with 80g of ketamine....and hey presto 100g of ketamine!

...and all you're grams look bigger than next man who hasn't cooked it.
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What about the guy who doesn't cook his product, but puts 30g of salt in with 70g of ketamine? He saves time on the cooking process and saves 10g of ketamine to boot.

omen_owen mk2 said:
Er, yes you did. It was absolutely bog standard from when I was involved about a decade ago, it dates from when actual vials from india would be cooked up. That's why a litre is called 50g (because that's what a litre of vial would have cooked up to), when really you can get it in 200ml.
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A decade ago? :D

It'd all long gone to shit by then, trust me.
 
The mid 2000's was a decade ago. What year do you think this is Owen? ;)

omen_owen mk2 said:
No I don't, but some do, and it's easy to just put 20g of salt in a pan with 80g of ketamine....and hey presto 100g of ketamine!

...and all you're grams look bigger than next man who hasn't cooked it.
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Right, ok. What does that have to do with the guy who had some ket to sniff a few pages back? I'm pretty sure he was putting it up his nose and not in underweight bags.
 
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