RCs No effect from Ethylphenidate (EP) - Help required

[Jacklemore1]

I recently purchase some crystallised powder form of Ethylphenidate (EP) from a reputable dealer. (I'm from the UK, so there is no hassle because it's legal)

- Can I just note that the previous day (call it day 1) I consumed 70mg of Methiopropamine (MPA) and had the full effect.
- I am only using these RC's as a study aid, to test the stimulate it provides.

The next day (day 2), upon orally (gel capsules) dosing; roughly 10mg to check for allergies with a further 25mg once everything was in the clear, I experience non of the stimulation or euphoric effects that most people rave about. The only thing it left me with was no appetite.

I continued to up my dosage, trying to feel that content effect, reaching around 200mg in total. Now, the night I found it difficult to sleep but I wasn't sure if that was mentally, but nonetheless I managed to get to sleep and slept solidly with the help of 1mg etizolam. In summary though, quite literally, it didn't work.

The following day (day 3) I decided I would only take it on a full stomach as I didn't last time didn't, and instead went straight with a 25mg insufflation (it does hurt) and again, felt nothing. With the confusing and lack of patience at it's peak, I orally took around 100mg in one go, and much to my disappointment and expectation as of now, again, no effect.

Now, I am extremely confused and if anyone could provide me with some answers/help as to why I seem to be a non-responder then I would be extremely grateful.

Thanks.

 

[JJ-180]

I think your doses area a bit low. Should have felt 100 mge though.,Tolerance perhaps, if that was day 3.? EPD can be frustrating, I agree.

 

[black53]

I think he should have felt it even at those doses, especially the 100mg in one go.

 

[Jacklemore1]

I think he should have felt it even at those doses, especially the 100mg in one go.

I think your doses area a bit low. Should have felt 100 mge though.,Tolerance perhaps, if that was day 3.? EPD can be frustrating, I agree.

Thank you for your replies, I too think I should have. I have tried everything with crushing the crystalline powder into extremely fine powder, and still nothing works. Orally MPA works lovely, and even small doses give me a pleasant focused feeling to an extent.

The EP though, does nothing, if anything makes me fatigued the instant I take it. Orally or insufflated. Perhaps there is a cross-tolerance with MPA to EP? Although I still receive the same effects, from the same doses with MPA.

I want to try 250mg Ethylphenidate at one time, but from reports I don't particularly want to spend days awake with a harsh comedown.

 

[black53]

You can have it tested to make sure it's real - http://wedinos.org/index.html if it is then for some strange reason you don't respond to it.

 

[sekio]

If you're taking methylphenidate or ethylphenidate expecting to feel good, you're gonna be disappointed. They are better functional stimulants (make you concentrate on your work) than euphoriants. I bet you had elevated blood pressure, heart rate, etc - all the typical physical signs of stimulation, but just didn't ever feel content.

MPA is gonna be much stornger as a euphoria inducing drug 'cause it's basically methamphetamine. It releases norepinephrine, dopamine, and serotonin in addition to blocking their reuptake. MPH/EPH are just reuptake inhibitors.

People who don't like drugs like methylphenidate will generally prefer amphetamine-type drugs, and vice versa. Some like both. Some like neither.

50-100mg of ethylphenidate orally or nasally is more than enough.

 

[Jacklemore1]

You can have it tested to make sure it's real - http://wedinos.org/index.html if it is then for some strange reason you don't respond to it.

I trust the legitimacy of it, I will try it again later though.

If you're taking methylphenidate or ethylphenidate expecting to feel good, you're gonna be disappointed. They are better functional stimulants (make you concentrate on your work) than euphoriants. I bet you had elevated blood pressure, heart rate, etc - all the typical physical signs of stimulation, but just didn't ever feel content.

MPA is gonna be much stornger as a euphoria inducing drug 'cause it's basically methamphetamine. It releases norepinephrine, dopamine, and serotonin in addition to blocking their reuptake. MPH/EPH are just reuptake inhibitors.

50-100mg of ethylphenidate orally or nasally is more than enough.

I'm taking it for the complete opposite reason. I'm taking it for that functional feeling you mentioned.

But yes, that's almost exactly what I had but lacked any feeling, so to say.

MPA - Yes, this is my personally favourite and I can quite easily get a lot of hours done, with the effects being subtle but noticeable to an extent. Even so, EP was just a disappointment.

 

[black53]

I can't comment on methylphenidate (never tried it and all), but ethylphenidate is definitely very recreational for me. MPA on the other hand doesn't do anything fun. But this appears do differ from person to person, some of us enjoy eph others find it worthless. Still with 100mg the op should definitely felt something if nothing good at least some side effects.

 

[Jacklemore1]

I can't comment on methylphenidate (never tried it and all), but ethylphenidate is definitely very recreational for me. MPA on the other hand doesn't do anything fun. But this appears do differ from person to person, some of us enjoy eph others find it worthless. Still with 100mg the op should definitely felt something if nothing good at least some side effects.

I've never taken methylphenidate, although isn't EPH just an analogue of it meaning the effects should be somewhat similar?

I agree that I should have felt something though. As sekio said, I had the increased blood pressure and heart rate, but I felt nothing. Could orally taking it be a reason on top of the fact I took MPA less than a day before? Just a thought (clinging onto some sort of hope here).

 

[black53]

Ethylphenidate is more selective for dopamine reuptake inhibition but otherwise yes, the effects should be similar.

I don't know how much cross tolerance there is between MPA and EPH so idk. But imo 100mg oral should still have given you something. At least some anxiety if nothing good.

 

[Jacklemore1]

Hmm, still no effect. Went for a run outside almost immediately after I took about 100mg insufflated (I normally don't but I heard it can be better for immediate effects) and I had the same feeling.

 

[foolsgold]

really does sound like you got skanted sorry about that but its the only thing i think of

 

[black53]

i'd really send it for testing

 

[truncate909]

Yeah I'd send it for testing, and complain to the vendor.

I personally take it functionally for concentrating on work (oral), but after a few days it gets really achey. Also occasionally dose if I feel like I'm going to break my current diet (bloody Mirtaz weight gain), and the very infrequently rack a line if I've had a few drinks.

EPH is a powerful drug man, even people with large stimulant tolerances notice the effects quite profoundly when railed. Seems fishy. Now to save my nose til Friday...

 

[foolsgold]

thats why i think he got ripped off even shit eph gets me high and i was abusing stims daily for years

 

[Jacklemore1]

Yeah I'd send it for testing, and complain to the vendor.

I personally take it functionally for concentrating on work (oral), but after a few days it gets really achey. Also occasionally dose if I feel like I'm going to break my current diet (bloody Mirtaz weight gain), and the very infrequently rack a line if I've had a few drinks.

EPH is a powerful drug man, even people with large stimulant tolerances notice the effects quite profoundly when railed. Seems fishy. Now to save my nose til Friday...

thats why i think he got ripped off even shit eph gets me high and i was abusing stims daily for years

Apologies for my late response. I left it for a week, tried it again with 50mg and felt nothing. Sent an email but received no reply. I'll have to note not to use that vendor again.

 

[EmergencyGrant24]

Yes A friend of mine ordered some ethylphenidate and did some it is brutal on the nose I'll give you that and they were all doing 40 - 80mg Ep HCl everyone 1.45hrs. I found something that sounds more promising than Ethyplenidate though!

It's Called by his supplier atleast as HDMP-28 HCl or Methlynapthaldate HCl I believe So 100mgs is going to be there at his place friday or monday Don't you just hate weekends sometimes!

I may try some more so I myself got a nice amount for R&d done this Ep HCl compound many a time I like the Ethylphenidate gives you the less euphoria and your are more able to focus on your tests!

This is a great RC in my opinion! I Will post back shortly when I know how my friends experience on the HDMP - 28 HCl when he tells me how it was report back on Friday or Monday!

Hope this helps a little it is worth noting that oral doses for ethylphenidate are 50-100% times of the drug are needed when taking this orally as when we compare it to it's effects when Insuflated,**OUCH** (Burning reminds me of Meth) As far as I know Some did try 25mg IV with Clean needles all that alcohol swabs and ten ml oral syringes of 0.09% NaCl aka Sodium Chloride.

I think that the Other RC the Napthamethyldate or w.e it is will be more promising then the EP - HCl.

Feel free to msg me if you need some help with anything and I will do my best to answer your questions in a timely fashion!

 

[lenses]

Sounds like it may be bunk ... If you're very curious I would buy a mecke, mandelin and marquis testing kit .

You should have definitely felt something at those doses . Granted , I think ethylphenidate is really terrible . When others say "functional stimulant" , they really mean it - It's less euphoric than caffeine , with juch much more paranoia and powerful raised blood pressure and vasoconstriction.

I like methylphenidate so much more , but even that is really just a functional stimulant . Getting high off it ends up being so unpleasant after 35 mgs!