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2-methyl 3-phenyl 8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1]octane-2,3-dicarboxylate

I still have a sky-high stim tolerance from doing low dosed MDPV for almost a month, and as expected felt no effects from ~25mgs snorted. I ceased taking stims and try it again in a few weeks.
 
very strange mate was not aware that MDPV and REC ¨( Or cocaine) had cross tolerance? Ok probably because they all affect the dopamine receptors but still.. anyways I'm still waiting for my order.. the source in question has really bad communication as someone said earlier.. they didn't even answer me to give me the tracking number so I'm blind waiting for it : \
 
I've tried it and I have to say I'm not impressed. Didn't weigh it out but started very small and built up to 'large' lines. Some stimulation, no better than average street coke in my opinion. Also caused some nausea.

Got at least half of the gram I started with left and I'm not in a hurry to do the rest of it.
 
I've tried it and I have to say I'm not impressed. Didn't weigh it out but started very small and built up to 'large' lines. Some stimulation, no better than average street coke in my opinion. Also caused some nausea.

Got at least half of the gram I started with left and I'm not in a hurry to do the rest of it.

Have you used any other stimulant in the last few days that could build tolerance? Very strange the different/contradicting reports we are seeing..
 
Does anyone have any sort of qualitative test data other than whether or not it makes your face numb and acts as a stimulant? Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin, Simons, Robadope, melt point, solubility in various solvents, crystal shape, ... ?
 
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Okay so far this is it. I was thinking about putting some on my tongue to see if there is some anesthetic effect but the place which supplies this also offers several fentanyl analogues and this could pretty much be a disaster. I will submit the sample for lab analysis.

Could anyone in possesion of some "rec" be able to react it with marquis. That would be nice. Also the powder is completely white, doesnt really stick to the walls and has (i hope i am not making this up but) a very faint but unusual smell. I am currently without a camera capable of good macro shots so in the near future i will also upload the pic of the powder.

A few questions... Now since cocaine doesn't react with marquis and fentanyl gives a orange reaction...
Is it possible that "rec" has this type of color reaction?
 
Tried to dissolve REC in water in which it didn't dissolve completely. For now (after trying it two times in dosages from ~20-40mgs) i think this stuff is nothing special!
 
I'll put down my marquis results sometime after the 10th as that's when I can get some money. Hope it turns out well.
 
I also think, as a rule, people shouldn't be thinking of cocaine as a stimulant, it's primary effects are as an SRI, then 1.5x less potent as a DRI and 2.5x less potent as an NRI. You should feel feelings of relaxation and euphoria, not stimulation as a primary affect. If you're looking for a stim, cocaine isn't really one in normal terms if say compared to MDPV which is a full on stimulant. Pure cocaine isn't that stimulating, it's just euphoric and makes you chatty, so look for that not stimulant effects. People only think it's a stim because it's usually cut with stims.
 
Cocaine is plenty stimulating, perhaps you missed that e.g. it was used by Shackleton's expedition to the antarctic for this reason.
 
I can share the same theory.. there's two types of stimulation(physically/mind) for example when you use speed.. you are infact stimulated physically /body and your mind does also feel speeded/stimulated, but for example in cocaine the beauty is that you can also feel stimulated physically it will give you energy and power and the warmness on the body.. but in the mind you will feel that sense of relaxing and serenity that everything is under control ... The same can be said with pre-ban meph.. you would physically be extra stimulated.. but in your mind it was just a peaceful and relaxed place to be.. almost as you got no worries and all the time in the world.. of course all this I just said is very subjectively and will vary from person to person.. I don't expect that everyone would feel like these.. specially because nowdays.. every cocaine is heavily cut and getting some real pre-ban meph might just be a mirage : \
 
I also think, as a rule, people shouldn't be thinking of cocaine as a stimulant, it's primary effects are as an SRI, then 1.5x less potent as a DRI and 2.5x less potent as an NRI. You should feel feelings of relaxation and euphoria, not stimulation as a primary affect. If you're looking for a stim, cocaine isn't really one in normal terms if say compared to MDPV which is a full on stimulant. Pure cocaine isn't that stimulating, it's just euphoric and makes you chatty, so look for that not stimulant effects. People only think it's a stim because it's usually cut with stims.

What do you feel the first time you take a serotonin reuptake inhibitor? Maybe some side effects and nothing else. Now maybe that 5-HT colors the experience when combined with the increased dopamine and norepinephrine, but I still don't think you can say it's the major contribution to the subjective experience.
 
"Its use has declined because of its adverse effects, which include increased risk of certain cancers and kidney damage" (Phenacetin Wiki excerpt)

Thanks i didn't pay for that shite and the amount tested was minuscule. Damn fuckers...8(
 
Yeah, suprising. Complex single isomer of a natural product derivative, which is less stable than the impossible-to-synthesize drug it's replacing. Mmmm-hmm. 100% trust there that an anonymous Chinese importer won't fuck it up.

To the idiot who PM'ed me insisting that this is real and he has authentic material and it must be what the vendor says because that's what they sold it as, and why would a drug vendor lie over the internet? And never conducted any tests other than jamming it up their nose? TOLD YOU SO!

You guys owe me one (1) video of a hat being eaten. This is why I'm so bitter :)
 
The thing is, at the end of last year they made this hype that went like this:

Next year you can expect a substance that will change the face of research chemicals market.

And if it turns out they fucked it up to such degree than this must be the biggest self disgrace ever to be monitored online :D
 
yes ruining their reputation like these.. doesn't make sense at all.. probably they where scammed by the lab or something.. but what hell... they could have some means of double checking what they got.. even if they suppliers are trusted.. you must be 100% sure specially when you also sell fent analogs lol.. which is scary because if they fuck up on this.. I imagine the fent analogs.....
 
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